Doom Eternal and Skyrim launched on Switch before MS even owned zenimax. The games MS released are Minecraft and Ori. The fact that Ori came to it only shows how little bearing Nintendo has on Xbox's strategy compared to PS anyway. Ori on Switch was Moon Studio's idea, they gave them the green light, Moon Studio also wanted to bring it to PS, MS rejected the idea.
It's crazy how quick you guys can change arguments, as if ignoring reality will help get this deal through. I remember discussions from the PS3/360 era. Everyone always talked about how Nintendo's success was not affecting the "HD Twins." Which is true, because both of them did 84M+, something a 2nd AND 3rd place finisher in a gen has never done before.
It IS interesting to hear how arguments switched. One minute Xbox was laughed at for being in third place now people are arguing there are only two competitors and MS is approaching monopolistic territory right after the FTC's comments.
Are you referring to the ftc claims?Damn looking bad for Microsoft, so bad they dropped many claims right after CMA delays the announcement yikes.
Microsoft lawyers deserve a medal for Pure incompetence
Still insane LMAOAre you referring to the ftc claims?
If so, they filed that before the CMA delay.
Maybe (obviously its importance is subjective, don't think it was a good thing to do either intentionally or accidentally) but just correcting the 'record'.
Or maybe it accomplished what it was intended to do. Seems to me their lawyers are more competent than takes like these!Damn looking bad for Microsoft, so bad they dropped many claims right after CMA delays the announcement yikes.
Microsoft lawyers deserve a medal for Pure incompetence
why incognito mode?Court appearance from FTC side.
Scientific research
I’m not going to say your wrong with this thinking, they most certainly see Nintendo in a better light than they view Sony no doubt about that, but it’s not because “there not competing in the same race” it’s more on their relationship with Nintendo is leagues better than it is with Sony. Hell Sony and Nintendo don’t even have this type of relationship so going by your logic Sony sees them the same way they see Microsoft, which I’d say isn’t true. Yet it’s most def the the same as PS vs Xbox for their competition in their respective home turf Japan, that has never changed.
These companies were always in competition with each other. This deal has made some twist and turn to create a new narrative to suit their personal opinions.
I'm pretty sure if like the CMA and FTC (concerned about the UK outcome and US respectively) that the Switch and Nintendo aren't directly in competition with Xbox and PlayStation for the important ABK franchises' revenues, then Japan wouldn't even be the third biggest home console market behind the US and UK - in this context ironically.
It should be part of the scrutiny of the deal because it would not have happened if MS wasn't buying Activision. The current leadership was outwardly hostile to the whole idea. Just like subscriptions and Nintendo support. There are plenty of positives to this acquisition and all of them should be evaluated.
Yes. In the real world Nintendo is every bit a console competitor as PlayStation and Xbox. Consumers aren't going to stores looking for the 'high performance' section of the console aisle they just want a system that plays the games they enjoy. It's sad to see people take que from an ignorant source as the FTC to get their market definitions.
Its like watching siblings fight for the controller.We are back to cars are cars now?
No we’re back to market realities.We are back to "cars are cars" now?
I was just commenting on personal experience. Apologies if that broke the rules of the thread.
Not my opinion as much as what Nintendo’s is, or at least was.
Yes, read my post above regarding what sales reports they used to buy from me / the company I worked for. They considered themselves in the same market, they wanted to know their market share vs MS and Sony, they wanted to know how their software performed against them too. They considered themselves in the same market, hence my comment.
The same one as MS and Sony in fact (in their opinion anyway)).
Quite definitively actually, again according to Nintendo.
A company called Nintendo may be thinking about entering the video game market. But they might not be.
Haha, alright. I concede, they may not have the market insight you have.
There’s nothing to interpret. They spent millions upon millions of dollars to understand how they were performing against their competitors, Sony and MS. Unless you think they did it for fun, I can’t help you.
I'd think so too but for whatever reason people seem to think that because the Switch can be played portably it's no longer a console competitor. I wonder if that same sentiment is true for the Steam Deck. Does it stop being a PC because you can play it on the go? I think it's pretty ridiculous to claim a device is no longer in a market because of a feature: be it portable, having multiple hardware configurations, or VR. Those are simply product differences, they won't change its market.
Haha, ok. I won’t waste anymore time here. This is too much
No wonder you’re trying to shut down all discussion on this topic. Even when presented with facts lol
