ChorizoPicozo
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no, only twitterWas anyone actually thinking otherwise ?
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Microsoft / Activision Deal Approval Watch |OT| (MS/ABK close)
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intheinbetween
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Uhm CMA has been their first problem, then came the FTC, and now back to the CMA. MS will probably get the deal closed on the US, however it's the CMA the real threat to this acquisition.
I'm on team 50-50, also it's yet to see what would be MS-ABK strategy if all the regulators approve the deal but the CMA.
Pelta88
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What the fuck is your problem, British people?
Don't make us bring George out of retirement...
Kidding.....love you guys
I'll see your George and raise you
We love you guys too
deriks
4-Time GIF/Meme God
This wasn't even the primal form
DeltaPolarBear
Member
Who is even saying Xbox will die without this deal, anyway?
If anything, this is the first time I see a sign that Xbox is in a real crisis. To hear Microsoft stating "Xbox will exist" is actually the opposite of reassuring.
You don't ever hear Nintendo say "Nintendo will exist" , do you? Because they never need to say such things.
If anything, this is the first time I see a sign that Xbox is in a real crisis. To hear Microsoft stating "Xbox will exist" is actually the opposite of reassuring.
You don't ever hear Nintendo say "Nintendo will exist" , do you? Because they never need to say such things.
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Thirty7ven
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I agree and I don’t.
Xbox will keep PS in check if MS is in the game to push the envelope on games and hardware. But they have decided that hw innovation is boring and would rather buy IP than create it. So what’s the good side of that?
Their current strategy of bleeding out the competition will make for a better PlayStation how?
360 vs PS3 days are long gone.
jm89
Member
CMA would have block it before any approval in the USA, assuming FTC don't suddenly drop. The question is will MS have any stomach to take on the FTC in court knowing that CMA have killed it? Whether MS wins against FTC is whatever, but if the FTC don't backdown it will be a messy fight and final decision could go into 2024 in the USA.
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Northeastmonk
Gold Member
There’s government people who don’t understand or even think about the games industry and they’re probably causing their share of problems for Microsoft. It reminds me of FB when they had to break things down to a 5 year old’s level of understanding. I’ve dealt with businesses that got upset at MS for having an Xbox app shadow installed in Windows. It’s sucks because they make some rather harsh comments or decisions based off their lack of understanding. These people are also forced to learn Windows to do their job. I bet it would suck to be that big of a company, having a lot of support from the community, and then having to explain everything to someone who doesn’t understand you whatsoever.
Flutta
Banned
And nothing of value would be lost if it did Phil.
The only reason for Xbox to exist is to keep Sony in check that is what you’ve turned Xbox into to not let Sony ”get arrogant” again. You and your team fucking suck at everything else.
Without MS backing, Xbox would have had the same fate as Sega. That tells you all you need to know about Team Xbox.
But here you are crying like a little bitch it’s not fair we need ALL THE STUDIOS IN THE WORD so we can
”compete”. What you and your spoiled gang need is a reality check, like maybe be forced to learn how to run a business without having your daddy there to save your ass every time.
The only reason for Xbox to exist is to keep Sony in check that is what you’ve turned Xbox into to not let Sony ”get arrogant” again. You and your team fucking suck at everything else.
Without MS backing, Xbox would have had the same fate as Sega. That tells you all you need to know about Team Xbox.
But here you are crying like a little bitch it’s not fair we need ALL THE STUDIOS IN THE WORD so we can
”compete”. What you and your spoiled gang need is a reality check, like maybe be forced to learn how to run a business without having your daddy there to save your ass every time.
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LordOfChaos
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It would obviously make no sense to shut down Xbox. Spin them off/IPO them though? Less impossible.
pasterpl
Member
That’s the one odd one for sure, even in the launch period of the consoles Sony spent 3x more than ms marketing ps5 vs xseries
Sony's PlayStation 5 outspent Microsoft's Xbox Series X three to one in launch ads
The two-week period ahead of the console launches was the video gaming category’s most active in 2020.
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
That Jez Gorden(corden?) guy I think tweeted something to the effect of msn dumping the xbox brand if this deal doesn't happen. At least that the idea was possible. I doubt it myself. The biggest thing I could see them doing is maybe getting away from hardware.Was anyone actually thinking otherwise ?
Physiognomonics
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They are clearly thinking about the possibility of the deal being blocked by the regulators. Well he is thinking about his own job here!
Shubh_C63
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I am convinced if they could have, they would have.
They can't. What an amazing software giant this company is.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
New Idas / Idle Sloth summary for an interview.
EU's decision will likely be done by 11th April.
EU's decision will likely be done by 11th April.
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Bleed out the competition lol. You ignore sony trying to content starve the other side with money hat world tours. Sony went on a money hat world tour before Microsoft bought any publisher. Blame sony for zenimax they wanted to money hat every single zenimax AAA game. Microsoft responded with purchasing zenimax to stop the money hats. Those who cry about zenimax were styling and profiling when sony got deathloop, ghost wire tokyo and on the verge of getting Starfield.
Good thing MS owning ABK wouldn't create a monopoly and would help compete with a dominant Sony.
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Roxkis_ii
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I think this is a really great post that nails it on the head. Xbox is so insulated with cash, they don't have no real skin in the game. If Microsoft closed up Xbox next week, it would probably be a small dent in Microsoft overall checkbook.
The more I think about this post, the more it makes sense. Why do most MS studios have an issue with delivering games. Could it be a lack of hunger?
Maybe Microsoft should let Xbox be run like a more independent company, with consequences and all.
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ToadMan
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Ad algorithms are trolling these days.
Next one will be an ad to buy the whole xbox division
Jez happy or sad with that ad?
Got it all from this guy
When MS don’t put Nintendo on their charts <mumble mumble>, why should anyone else?
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demigod
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They are a cult and believe all the bs from phil spencer instead of calling him out.Always funny seeing comments like this. Like yeah, no shit dude - believe it or not there was a point in time when Xbox was actually run by competent people who were actually clued into the industry.
The good old days of discovering and playing Braid, Dishwasher and Castle Crashers on XBLA - Geometry Wars being re-released as a 360 launch title! The accessibility of Japanese visual novels was unique too. They had freaking Chaos;Head exclusively?!
GPInjector, Photo Parties with the boys come midnight, Hacked Betas - you remember these things right? M2AF?
The good old days when Xbox people had a pulse on game development and were sealing up now classics like BioShock and Mass Effect for exclusivity deals. When Xbox were early backers of console eSports through THEIR OWN IP with Halo and Gears through MLG / Gamebattles.
All that magic and soul pissed away by this idiot;
The only people who defend this current regime are Xbox zoomers who have never watched a Final Boss set or never attended an X/360 midnight launch in their life.
That's my disjointed Xbox fan rant over after thinking about the good old days
Henry Panic
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I only see this being an issue if Redfall and Starfield are another Sunset Overdrive, Quantum Break and Halo MCC in terms of sales performance, slow to fix issues, and development problems.Along with lacking upfront what's needed to appeal to buyers until too late.
Sure they have games coming from a couple internal teams and other aquisitions, but unless they make up for the two most anticipated games of the year failing in this scenario, it would be another year or two before we see replacement games like Fable, and by then it would be too late.
Series still has momentum, damaged by last year but not gone. They mess up this year it's a done deal.
Also Phil acting like three competitors is much better than two is stupid. He also, nor does Jim, put down Nintendo as competition even before the Activision deal, so why he's now acting like there's more than two is nothing more than lying to appease the CMA.
Sure they have games coming from a couple internal teams and other aquisitions, but unless they make up for the two most anticipated games of the year failing in this scenario, it would be another year or two before we see replacement games like Fable, and by then it would be too late.
Series still has momentum, damaged by last year but not gone. They mess up this year it's a done deal.
Also Phil acting like three competitors is much better than two is stupid. He also, nor does Jim, put down Nintendo as competition even before the Activision deal, so why he's now acting like there's more than two is nothing more than lying to appease the CMA.
Polygonal_Sprite
Gold Member
Part of me wants the acquisition to be stopped just to see what kind of absolute monster Sony create by objecting to it. They think losing CoD would be a big deal? How about they lose every single AAA third party multiplatform game for it’s first 12-18 months for next 20 years. $70+ billion is a lot of money for Japanese third party moneyhat’s…
They should ask Nintendo about creating monsters by fucking other big companies over.
They should ask Nintendo about creating monsters by fucking other big companies over.
Topher
Gold Member
The problem with all that is that some keep ignoring the fact that the crux of the conversation regarding Nintendo was its relation to Call of Duty which isn't in the same market segment as games that make Nintendo popular. Remember, the crux of all this is this bullshit premise that since Nintendo doesn't need Call of Duty then the same applies to PlayStation. It was a false equivalency from the getgo.
But yeah, if we are going to talk about "how easily Nintendo moves in and out of the market" then time to start pointing fingers at Brad Smith. As far as I'm concerned, he ended that debate.
Thirty7ven
Banned
You think MS transferred 70B into Xbox’s bank account or something?
Snake29
RSI Employee of the Year
Xbox lacks identity and with buying up publishers to have their big IP's, you are not getting this identity.
It's embarassing that they can't compete with the studios they have. Your comment shows that "taking the biggest MP game away from the compatitor will let us "finally" compete".
Sorry but it shows Xbox their lack of creativity and identity.
It's embarassing that they can't compete with the studios they have. Your comment shows that "taking the biggest MP game away from the compatitor will let us "finally" compete".
Sorry but it shows Xbox their lack of creativity and identity.
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Talkin Hawkin
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Thank you. If Xbox closed up next week it would be a benefit to Microsoft, as the Xbox department posts multi billion dollar losses every quarter.
I think you're right, it is a lack of hunger and complacency. Think of 343i, they were handed Xbox's biggest IP on a platter and through multiple-failures and delays nothing was done. Nothing was done until the only course of action was to take action. How many millions in resources were wasted, were able to be wasted, letting the studio have free reign? We see the same with Perfect Dark and Hellblade. There is no accountability for failure and no incentive to push out a great, high-quality product.
Xbox run as independent company would be a great idea, but you would have to gut the Microsoft managers and mindset from it. Bring in a businessman or fixer who could take the new independent company from loss to success.
GHound
Gold Member
Don't quit your day job.
Why would this even need to be stated. AB was a great deal put together by Phil and Co. for sure (or whichever junior executive actually put the initial draft together that Phil and Co. will now take credit for), but the continued existence of XBOX isn't on this deal: it is on when MS head honchos figure they no longer need a "cool" tech arm.
MS isn't tossing 70B dollars at Japanese developers. Who would they even give this money to? AB is ABSOLUTELY worth 70B dollars. Some petty slush fund to buy up limited time exclusivity deals with developers who have no real presence on your platform. . .you'd get laughed out of your bosses office, if not outright fired.
MS isn't tossing 70B dollars at Japanese developers. Who would they even give this money to? AB is ABSOLUTELY worth 70B dollars. Some petty slush fund to buy up limited time exclusivity deals with developers who have no real presence on your platform. . .you'd get laughed out of your bosses office, if not outright fired.
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Having a sole player in the high end console space would be worse for consumers.
Good thing this remains a fantasy and looks unlikely to happen.
Is ‘identity’ the new ‘character’ now?
People play games, not ‘identity’.
February 2023 and there’s still discourse about COD being ‘taken away’ from PlayStation, even with guaranteed commitments of MP release on offer?
Pelta88
Member
Guilt.
R3claimer117
Member
Lol only console warriors fantasize about one of the three dropping out. No one who’s seriously a gamer would especially given Microsoft has innovated in the space more so than the other two. Their first party output still has to catch up to the other two but we’ll see where that’s at when those studios start putting out products. The fact that he has to say this is absurd why would anyone thing after getting all those studios plus bathesda that they wouldn’t even give those studios a chance to put out games first to see where they stand they’d just close shop Because ABK fell through.
R3claimer117
Member
Or just answering a question he was asked by agenda driven journalists. It’s not like he randomly woke up and said if you know.
ReBurn
Gold Member
And you know where that started? Regulators defining new market segments that don't include Nintendo to bolster their cases. Including Nintendo makes the acquisition look less impactful to the overall market. This graphic could be true in a narrowly defined segment like "high performance consoles." But people don't seem to like the visual so now Nintendo needs to be back in the game and on the pie chart to balance things out a bit.Ad algorithms are trolling these days.
Next one will be an ad to buy the whole xbox division
Jez happy or sad with that ad?
Got it all from this guy
When MS don’t put Nintendo on their charts <mumble mumble>, why should anyone else?
You know EXACTLY what they mean. SONY and NINTENDO (and UBISOFT on the software side) absolutely have an identity when it comes to their vision for gaming. GOT has nothing to do with the Horizon series, but those "feel" like SONY games. MS has no real identity when it comes to the kinds of games they develop and so they just throw money at developers to build out that first party presence but since they are only chasing heavy hitters and not building internally, their "identity" is non-existent.
. . .and no this isn't about what "gamers care about", it is about the long term viability of a brand (which I'm sure you know that that is what the discussion is about, but are being obtuse to prove a point).
Airbus Jr
Banned
Still baffles me
Microsoft has all the money in the world to built their own first party studio like sony does but the fact that they had to resort on buying third party publishers like activision blizard really raised the big question for everyone
Why do they need to do that? The most reasonable explanation is : lazzines
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hemo memo
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They are not going anywhere hopefully. Can you imagine how ridiculous the gaming scene will be if Nintendo obviously continuing the hybrid route but Sony have the whole home console market for themselves? That is a fucking nightmare. Sony is arrogant on top now imagine being without competition.
Again, i’m glad Xbox exists even if only to pressure Sony to not fuck up.
Again, i’m glad Xbox exists even if only to pressure Sony to not fuck up.
Morrie’s wig shop
Member
Who in their right mind thinks Xbox would shutter if the Activision deal is blocked? Who?
Ash Sparrow
Banned
I honestly would have just went after some of the bigger Japanese devs. Give me Capcom and Konami with Bethesda and I'd be ready to do battle. I dont actually care about the Activision deal. But I'm oldschool and have a connection with those older Ips. Sometimes I wonder if MS gets that aspect of gaming. MS has enough of its own IP to rock it isnt utilizing.
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Giallo Corsa
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Microsoft/Xbox ain't going nowhere and that's a good thing.
Competition is ALWAYS a good for the consumer.
As a recent-ish example, if it wasn't for gamepass PlayStation most probably wouldn't have put out PS Plus extra or premium and we would be stuck with just the basic tier offering shovelware most probably - heck , even the offerings on the basic PS Plus tier have gotten better because of it.
...and this comes from a guy that has been disappointed with the Microsoft/Xbox offerings in the past 2 years, again, competition can only be perceived as positive.
Having said that, this feels like (negative) preemptive PR on their part regarding the Actibliz deal , not that I care about it but...yeah.
Competition is ALWAYS a good for the consumer.
As a recent-ish example, if it wasn't for gamepass PlayStation most probably wouldn't have put out PS Plus extra or premium and we would be stuck with just the basic tier offering shovelware most probably - heck , even the offerings on the basic PS Plus tier have gotten better because of it.
...and this comes from a guy that has been disappointed with the Microsoft/Xbox offerings in the past 2 years, again, competition can only be perceived as positive.
Having said that, this feels like (negative) preemptive PR on their part regarding the Actibliz deal , not that I care about it but...yeah.
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Topher
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That's not true. This started with Microsoft. It was their argument that Nintendo is proof that Sony didn't need Call of Duty. That's where all this nonsense originated.
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