"Content Creators" are officially on notice. In pretty sure the average person listening to a review as background noise could be fooled by that review. Especially if you cut out a few of the tangents. Absolutely hilarious stuff.
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Ninja Theory, other triple-A devs using AI voice acting tech instead of voice actors
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"Content Creators" are officially on notice. In pretty sure the average person listening to a review as background noise could be fooled by that review. Especially if you cut out a few of the tangents. Absolutely hilarious stuff.
Shut0wen
Member
So many retards on this thread, this is the same tech pixar has been using since lockdown, it basically helps actors act a scene without seeing the other actor, the ai plays the lines from one actor to another, was basically used for actors who stayed at home during lockdown, whole thing was used to make encanto
You imagine it’s scummy for rockstar not to hire hundreds of voice artists to voice every NPC sim the game?
Also, as others have said, this is likely being utilized to generate realistic sounding placeholder lines before bringing in the voice artists for a single take.
Bo_Hazem
Banned
Video Showcase
Check out what people created with Altered Studio Voice AI. Its Text-To-Speech and Speech-To-Speech technology generates realistic and natural sounding AI voices.www.altered.ai
Wonderful, but pretty steep in price.
Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
Prefer this to the same 3 voice actors over and over.
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nush
Member
Yup, they wanted movie star money and benefits.
Fuz
Banned
Oh my.
I haven't seen them protesting or saying anything when small businesses were forced to close by "progress".
Amiga
Member
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Fandubs are going to be the next big thing and replace fansubs. James Earl Jones better trademark his voice ASAP.
Buggy Loop
Member
Was there a fuss when most stuntman lost their jobs after CGI? Puppeteers? The huge number of artists that were working on practical effects?
No?
No?
Roman Empire
Member
I'm not too worried about this. People will probably lose their jobs but this will create new/indirect jobs, like any other industry going through this new technological revolution/wave. People will adapt to it, so I don't expect everyone to lose their jobs in one fell swoop.
I welcome the addition to the already established voice acting industry.
I welcome the addition to the already established voice acting industry.
nkarafo
Member
Well, here's the thing, acting in videogames generally sucks. Game characters are still the same dead-eyed puppets, just more fancy looking. And professional voice acting usually sticks out and makes the whole thing look weird, like a parody that takes itself too seriously. So a crappy, emotionless AI voice will be more fitting i guess.
Or maybe they could dial back the cinematics and focus more on actual game design? That's another way to save money.
Or maybe they could dial back the cinematics and focus more on actual game design? That's another way to save money.
Calverz
Member
Absolutely. I think it’s unavoidable. This is one of the reasons I think a Universal Basic Income is important in the future. But I’m not here to talk politics lol.
Torrent of Pork
Banned
I hate to break it to you folks, but most fields people went to college for are going to be replaced by AI far sooner than virtually any trades.
Bragr
Banned
And any job can eventually be done by computers.
In 200 years, it will be laughed upon that humans once did any sort of labor.
SeriousCrayon
Member
its called progress..eventually we'll all be lucky too be out of work and live in a dystopian future where the elite live a cushy life up in a beautiful space station and the rest of us are fighting for their scraps as they use earth as a garbage dump. Isn't the future grand.
SF Kosmo
Al Jazeera Special Reporter
It's weird to me that t accompany who has invested so much into performance capture would take this route. I wonder if they're just using it for placeholder stuff to speed up development. Or to voice in menu lore stuff for accessibility or whatever.
I could see this working fine for some games, Iike localizing verbose JRPGs for example, which even at their best always sound like actors alone in a recording booth.
What this can't do is deliver a real performance with multiple characters interacting with each other.
And Ninja Theory know that. Hellblade was built on the incredible performace of its lead actress. They have put a ton of work into performance capture especially facial performance capture. I can't see them just giving up on that, especially not with their hugely expanded financial resources.
I could see this working fine for some games, Iike localizing verbose JRPGs for example, which even at their best always sound like actors alone in a recording booth.
What this can't do is deliver a real performance with multiple characters interacting with each other.
And Ninja Theory know that. Hellblade was built on the incredible performace of its lead actress. They have put a ton of work into performance capture especially facial performance capture. I can't see them just giving up on that, especially not with their hugely expanded financial resources.
alabtrosMyster
Banned
Yes, these are the times we live in... artists will have to be starving artists again.
Holammer
Member
If this upsets you? It's only going to get "worse", won't be long until media like tv series & movies start using digital actors/personalities in leading roles.
10+ years from now personalized AI generated porn will become the norm and we're already at the cusp of that particular revolution. Give it another 20 and you get the same with media and games. I, for one will enjoy re-watching Lord of the Rings as directed by Quentin Tarantino with Steve Buscemi doing all the roles.
10+ years from now personalized AI generated porn will become the norm and we're already at the cusp of that particular revolution. Give it another 20 and you get the same with media and games. I, for one will enjoy re-watching Lord of the Rings as directed by Quentin Tarantino with Steve Buscemi doing all the roles.
Bartski
Gold Member
This is some truly mind numbing ignorance. "Save a buck or two" like holy shit, wow.
Also big up to those production experts endlessly bitching how it takes too much time to make games, but when a voice timbre altering tech comes out that is all about efficiency and delivering quality at scale with fewer resources - nope, THAT'S LAZY.
Also big up to those production experts endlessly bitching how it takes too much time to make games, but when a voice timbre altering tech comes out that is all about efficiency and delivering quality at scale with fewer resources - nope, THAT'S LAZY.
You see boys and girls, this is what happens when the main players are all UNIONIZED, you don't HAVE to use the UNIONIZED WORKERS, you use "scabs" or now the new thing I guess is AI.
You know who doesn't care about this loss of actors work because their jobs are super safe? The voice actors union workers and union leaders.
At least that dumb battle has been quieted for a long time about making a Game dev union.
Congrats.
You know who doesn't care about this loss of actors work because their jobs are super safe? The voice actors union workers and union leaders.
At least that dumb battle has been quieted for a long time about making a Game dev union.
Congrats.
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KXVXII9X
Member
That's actually pretty impressive. Still conveys some emotion.
Wildebeest
Member
Remember when people said AI was going to automate all the boring jobs and give people more chances to work in cool, creative jobs.
Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
I think this can do wonders for the dynamicism of open world games. Imagine having story and conversations that are not scripted and can react properly to the players actions.
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
So GAF can stop pretending to care about voice actors
And we can stop with the "same voice actors" script that seems to be in this thread.
Y'all are like parrots or zombies.
Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
We that is actually true.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
The parroting? Yes. Agreed.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
100% dream world. Even more basic than that was automation would allow people to sit on a beach and chill out because every country and company would morph into automation city, make everything, and its so efficient nobody even has to work anymore. Everything churned out is so low costing with zero human input, people can either be unemployed for life or just punch in for 1 hour per day and thats good enough for society to run. LOL
As for anyone who had the idea automation would make boring stuff obsolete and everyone can do better and more exciting jobs, that ASSUMES the jobbers who just lost their jobs are skilled enough or have the ambition to do something else. And unionized workers are typically the opposite of having skill set flexibility an doing more than they are asked. Their view is you get paid, have job security and you follow the bullet points on the job description and thats it. Thats why most most non-union workers dont really care about behind a union unless they got a bottom rung job like working at a supermarket. If we lose our job, we just get another one at a different company. I got downsized 15 years ago. First time ever getting canned with 7-8 other people. Who cares. Brush up the resume, take the severance pay out and I got another job in a month. I actually gained because the severance I got was more than the 1 month gap I wasnt working. Union workers losing their job and thy panic to high heaven nobody will ever hire them again. Thats on them. Have a good resume, good interview skills and skills that can transcend anywhere and you're good to work at any place.
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Apathy for fellow man will rise through the roof with full-blown automation. You will just be a number, and dispensable weight.
ReBurn
Gold Member
Your perspective probably would change a bit if it was your job the robots automated away.
My day job is building technology that allows my company to do more with fewer people. With the current state of technology we've reached a whole new level of "just because we can doesn't mean we should."
Doczu
Member
It's either this or a type of Star Trek civilisation. But i always think of the worst.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
The counter argument to this though is tech always does some magic to simplify things, do it faster, more accurate etc... There's no point in tech advancement if it doesnt improve things. And that can mean job losses as one of things in the fall out.
Society could (if they wanted to collude and agree on it) keep all jobs. Just dont advance with the times. All the paper pushers and admin staff from the 60s and 70s would keep their jobs despite PCs and photocopiers doing it.
Just imagine if things held firm from 50 years ago and PCs werent around. Wed be all handwriting things or doing forms on a typewriter. Forget it. A lot of people got phased out of jobs back then but that's how society progresses. Some jobs are easier to use computers, some arent. On the other side of the spectrum, pretty hard to replace a plumber or contractor to fix your house using some NASA engineered robo worker.
Problem is, most people in modern day want white collar desk jobs. And those are the jobs most at risk as soon as someone figures out how to automate they job. It's really what I said above but on steroids and 50 years later like a Version 2.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
So GAF can stop pretending to care about voice actors
As it should be.
Many years ago I used to make interactive DVD games, I saw the writing was on the wall and pivoted to .Net and then cloud development. If my current skill set was becoming obsolete or I was finding it difficult to find employment I would just retrain, adapt and go down a different path. A few people used to be able to bang out a AAA game now it takes hundreds, if automation tools allow a reduction in manpower, time and cost then I do not see that as a bad thing. It potentially allows smaller companies to make bigger games and bigger companies to make more games.
Deputy Moonman
Member
If you click on the article there is a brief update at the top of the page: "Update: developer Ninja Theory has clarified the use of AI voice over technology in the development of its games."
I could be wrong but I think this is to clarify that they're not using it over voice actors but are implementing AI voice over technology in their games. Would be helpful to know exactly how it's being used though.
I could be wrong but I think this is to clarify that they're not using it over voice actors but are implementing AI voice over technology in their games. Would be helpful to know exactly how it's being used though.
lyan
Member
The main moral issue I have is most the time people don't make/hire someone to make their own content to give the AI data and instead just snatch stuff on internet. I think there should be a distinction of rights between letting one human look at a piece of art to learn, and letting a program do the same.
oldergamer
Member
Again, like i said before a mod deleted my post. Some of the people around here are complaining about the dumbest shit when it involves Xbox. The freakout over this was bullshit to begin with, and the fact they even had to comment, goes to show how much the general public actually knows about game development.
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CeeJay
Member
Technology has always come along that has made peoples work obsolete and will continue to do so, it's not a new thing. A few examples;
Lamplighter - Before electric street lights, a lamplighter would go around town extinguishing and lighting gas-burning street lamps. When cities replaced gas lamps with electric light bulbs, lamplighters became jobless.
Lector - In the early 1900s, factories employed a lector to read books or newspapers aloud to keep employees entertained. The lector would often stand or sit on an elevated surface while reading the news so that the entire factory could hear.
Clock Keeper - In the middle ages, people hired clock keepers to track time and maintain clocks and other timekeeping devices. Clock keepers often received significant amounts of money to ensure the accuracy of a clock, as the job involved some basic skills in mathematics in a time when education was not yet widespread.
Milkman - Before pasteurized milk and household refrigerators, milkmen had to deliver milk daily to ensure it didn't spoil. With the rise of home refrigeration, however, the occupation disappeared. Some do still exist but numbers are very small.
I think A.I. though does however threaten a lot of traditionally highly paid workers in areas such as finance, law and some medical as well as the voice actors this thread is discussing which does differentiate it from the many of the jobs that have been obsolete in the past. Pretty much anything where there is a lot of repetition and driven by rules and patterns is at risk. As these jobs disappear though, other opportunities will become available. Let's be honest here as well, voice actor is a pretty niche job so even if all voice acting jobs disappeared it's not going to affect any where near the number of people that the jobs I listed above did at the time. Still, it sucks if that is your job and you're facing redundancy.
Torrent of Pork
Banned
I highly doubt the AI is running in realtime, but it would solve the Bethesda-style, "We have 20 people voice all the unnamed NPCs," problem.
EverydayBeast
thinks Halo Infinite is a new graphical benchmark
Actors do so much for gaming, now they’re kicking them under the bus for AI robots.
it’s kinda best practice to scan the thread for updated info, especially since a ton of folks here don’t tend to update their OPs.
We’ve seen additional info that much of the AI use goes to prototyping that would typically have been done with Text To Speech.
Pity the thread title hasn’t been updated