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Nintendo E3 2006 Conference Thread (start at reply ~#1300)

SuomiDude

Member
MrSardonic said:
you know I wish Nintendo would announce at E3 that they will finally stop shafting Europe. They've been talking about it for years, but Europe still sees hardware and software months after the US and at inflated prices. DSL and new DS games will be late to Europe, Wii will be late to Europe, Wii games will miss the Xmas period in Europe and get March release dates - it's a standard and pathetic pattern, especially given the size and importance of the European market. Referencing the occasional title that made it out within 4 weeks of US launch does not make up for the systematic delays in the majority of titles and updates/colors of hardware.

Whoever stops fucking Europe first will win

What are you (and those others) talking about? Sure, there's some games that still take ages to come here, but most of the time the games are only a month or two (or three at most) late. You simply can't ignore the fact that the translation takes time.

Also since everything is released here "couple of" months later, we will still be playing all the games all the time. I mean, when we're playing some game in January, we're done with it when some new game comes out in February. It doesn't matter if some game has been released in US or Japan already, because we haven't played the previous game yet (which was released in US or Japan a month earlier), so we always have something to play before the next game comes "late".

The only thing different is that we (Europeans) can't discuss about the games with some (US) forum members at the same time. But if you think about it, US is as much screwed compared to Japan as Europe is screwed compared to US. And it's again because of the translation time needed.

Nintendo could make it so that the games are translated to all languages before they're being released anywhere (including Japan), but you know that would be stupid. So the current system makes sense.

(I don't know if this made any sense, so in short: I think Nintendo is doing an OK job with European market)
 

Aurora

Member
SuomiDude said:
What are you (and those others) talking about? Sure, there's some games that still take ages to come here, but most of the time the games are only a month or two (or three at most) late. You simply can't ignore the fact that the translation takes time.

Also since everything is released here "couple of" months later, we will still be playing all the games all the time. I mean, when we're playing some game in January, we're done with it when some new game comes out in February. It doesn't matter if some game has been released in US or Japan already, because we haven't played the previous game yet (which was released in US or Japan a month earlier), so we always have something to play before the next game comes "late".

The only thing different is that we (Europeans) can't discuss about the games with some (US) forum members at the same time. But if you think about it, US is as much screwed compared to Japan as Europe is screwed compared to US. And it's again because of the translation time needed.

Nintendo could make it so that the games are translated to all languages before they're being released anywhere (including Japan), but you know that would be stupid. So the current system makes sense.

(I don't know if this made any sense, so in short: I think Nintendo is doing an OK job with European market)

Please tell me this was a joke post.
 

User 7575

Banned
dasein said:
lol you post a picture of them (what was the purpose anyways?) and you don't even know who they are...


its Refused

the purpose was to seem hardcore and amped and psyched

they looked enthusiastic
 

SuomiDude

Member
Aurora said:
Please tell me this was a joke post.

No, it wasn't a joke post. I've always been fine with Nintendo's handling of Europe. Though of course now thinking back (can't remember much from NES days as I didn't buy anything myself), things weren't that great back in 1990s when SNES games costed 100$ or more, and we only got handful of games, and like 1 RPG on SNES. But with every generation, Nintendo has improved a lot in Europe. We got more games and the game prices went down (N64 games "only" cost like 80-90$). It still took some time for games to come over here. With GC, the game prices went down to 60-65$, and again the games were released here earlier and earlier, in some cases even before US. Also we got some improved versions over US versions. That's also the last good thing about getting games last. If there's bugs and stuff, they'll usually get fixed to Euro versions.
 

MrSardonic

The nerdiest nerd of all the nerds in nerdland
SuomiDude said:
You simply can't ignore the fact that the translation takes time

er, I could translate 90% of all games from English to French, by myself, in about 2 days. The translation excuse is weak and not valid
 

SuomiDude

Member
MrSardonic said:
er, I could translate 90% of all games from English to French, by myself, in about 2 days. The translation excuse is weak and not valid

Fine, but tell me why US gets games usually later than Japan? Why don't they release the games 2 days later in US? The answer to that is probably the same which applies to Europe getting games later than US.
 

cvxfreak

Member
MrSardonic said:
er, I could translate 90% of all games from English to French, by myself, in about 2 days. The translation excuse is weak and not valid

Yes, but someone has to actually program the French into the game, and then people have to play it and see if the French suits the nature of the game, and then there are revisions and revisions to go through to insure a quality product. Two day translations = all your base r belong 2 us. And then there's marketing and approval, and then the wait time for the other European translations.
 

Sweedishrodeo

the smegma spreader
Error2k4 said:
damn 400+ replies already :/

take it easy guys.

yeah i know. can you imagine what this forum, let alone the internet, will do on tuesday morning? total mayhem. ....totally looking forward to it!
 

gofreak

GAF's Bob Woodward
You can see the tiniest bit of Nintendo's booth in the background of Gamespot's last video update - the GS booth is right in front of Nintendo and Sony. It's no biggie, you can just see big white banners with pictures of people playing with Wii controllers. (Can't see anything of Sony's btw, it's more off the side of the camera).
 
gofreak said:
You can see the tiniest bit of Nintendo's booth in the background of Gamespot's last video update - the GS booth is right in front of Nintendo and Sony. It's no biggie, you can just see big white banners with pictures of people playing with Wii controllers. (Can't see anything of Sony's btw, it's more off the side of the camera).

Where exactly on the site are the live videos?
 

gofreak

GAF's Bob Woodward
Scroll down, their embedded into the page, you click on "Watch" to watch.

I must say, they're updating very frequently (mostly with nonsense, but heh ;)).
 

Peru

Member
So here's what the Wii Mario game will be like.

As far as level design ideology goes, it will share many elements with the "old school" levels of Sunshine. More linear progression is the keyword here, linear progression instead of open subworlds with several 'missions' in each. When it comes down to the actual shape and feel of the levels, obviously they will be shaped around the wiimote and entirely around the wiimote. Whatever funky moves Miyamoto has come up with will decide how the obstacles will be. Undoubtedly they'll open for great fun and never-before-seen platform dynamics.

Note I'm not saying it will "be like" the fludd-less levels in sunshine, just that it takes it's linearity and 3d-ness with it and develops it into something entirely unique. The look? Probably much more fleshed out than those levels of SMS I mentioned above. I'm thinking it will be a full-fledged mushroom kingdom-ish universe... basically envision the 2D marios and make them 3D, only more intricate (and yet again; not wide-open like SM64).
What will this give us: Linearity limits movement and enables miyamoto and his team to create a level experience tightly around the funky control methods... and enabling a game where - when players have become experienced - you'll be able to achieve that great flow, rushing through a level with precise and carefully planned moves, something half-way lost in the open-ended 3d universe of SM64 and SMS.

Anyway, that's my prediction and I feel it's a very likely path..
 

Rocked

Member
gofreak said:
You can see the tiniest bit of Nintendo's booth in the background of Gamespot's last video update - the GS booth is right in front of Nintendo and Sony. It's no biggie, you can just see big white banners with pictures of people playing with Wii controllers. (Can't see anything of Sony's btw, it's more off the side of the camera).

Picture:

wii4xa.jpg
 
OMFG Today is the 7th?:lol

Holy crap, I thought today was the 8th. So, Nintendo's conference is on Tuesday...not tomorrow. Now I won't miss it due to school!:lol :lol

I'm officially retarded
 

ahmad

Banned
PhoenixDark said:
OMFG Today is the 7th?:lol

Holy crap, I thought today was the 8th. So, Nintendo's conference is on Tuesday...not tomorrow. Now I won't miss it due to school!:lol :lol

I'm officially retarded

wow just wow :lol
 

Thraktor

Member
Peru said:
So here's what the Wii Mario game will be like.

As far as level design ideology goes, it will share many elements with the "old school" levels of Sunshine. More linear progression is the keyword here, linear progression instead of open subworlds with several 'missions' in each. When it comes down to the actual shape and feel of the levels, obviously they will be shaped around the wiimote and entirely around the wiimote. Whatever funky moves Miyamoto has come up with will decide how the obstacles will be. Undoubtedly they'll open for great fun and never-before-seen platform dynamics.

Note I'm not saying it will "be like" the fludd-less levels in sunshine, just that it takes it's linearity and 3d-ness with it and develops it into something entirely unique. The look? Probably much more fleshed out than those levels of SMS I mentioned above. I'm thinking it will be a full-fledged mushroom kingdom-ish universe... basically envision the 2D marios and make them 3D, only more intricate (and yet again; not wide-open like SM64).
What will this give us: Linearity limits movement and enables miyamoto and his team to create a level experience tightly around the funky control methods... and enabling a game where - when players have become experienced - you'll be able to achieve that great flow, rushing through a level with precise and carefully planned moves, something half-way lost in the open-ended 3d universe of SM64 and SMS.

Anyway, that's my prediction and I feel it's a very likely path..

I fully believe the biggest opportunity Nintendo missed on the Gamecube would have been a full game of those fludd-less Sunshine minilevels. Get about a hundred of them (obviously with a bit more variety than in Sunshine), divide them thematically into worlds, slap on a "plot" and you've got yourself an amazingly fun game. Sigh... maybe on the next gameboy.

Anyway, I digress, and wouldn't be too surprised to see this sort of progression in the series, but it depends entirely upon what sort of basic game mechanics Nintendo's got going on for the game, whether they lend themselves well to a free-roaming game or not.
 
PhoenixDark said:
OMFG Today is the 7th?:lol

Holy crap, I thought today was the 8th. So, Nintendo's conference is on Tuesday...not tomorrow. Now I won't miss it due to school!:lol :lol

I'm officially retarded

Isn't there school on tuesday?
 

Sweedishrodeo

the smegma spreader
PhoenixDark said:
OMFG Today is the 7th?:lol

Holy crap, I thought today was the 8th. So, Nintendo's conference is on Tuesday...not tomorrow. Now I won't miss it due to school!:lol :lol

I'm officially retarded

youve been saying you were gonna miss it right? that must feel good. lol
 

polg

Member
so I went to Kodak theatre today for a tour and... tours have been cancelled til wedsenday because of...

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oh well... maybe I'll get to tour it before I leave...

and while walking around hollywood I saw a SIGN of the times to come

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BELIEVE!
 

OmegaRed

Member
polg said:
so I went to Kodak theatre today for a tour and... tours have been cancelled til wedsenday because of...

142369198_0f3152c71c.jpg


oh well... maybe I'll get to tour it before I leave...

and while walking around hollywood I saw a SIGN of the times to come

142369800_8c945b03bc.jpg


BELIEVE!

I BELIEVE
 
polg said:
so I went to Kodak theatre today for a tour and... tours have been cancelled til wedsenday because of...

142369198_0f3152c71c.jpg


oh well... maybe I'll get to tour it before I leave...

and while walking around hollywood I saw a SIGN of the times to come

142369800_8c945b03bc.jpg


BELIEVE!


My God man, Did you check around the corner!!!! What did you see?????
 
StrikerObi said:
That picture ("The Revolution is Just Around the Corner") is from this year? That sign said the SAME thing last year.


Apparently theyre still waiting... someone should tell them to update it:

"The Wii is just around the Corner"
 
MrSardonic said:
er, I could translate 90% of all games from English to French, by myself, in about 2 days. The translation excuse is weak and not valid
Yes, because translating text doesn't require more testing, script-writing, or production of new discs, not to mention the games needing to conform to other standards than those in the US or Japan.
 

littlewig

Banned
Companies should just hire the people who do fan subs for animes. Yea, there might be a few more cuss words, but we'll get the games faster.
 

ant1532

Banned
polg said:
so I went to Kodak theatre today for a tour and... tours have been cancelled til wedsenday because of...

142369198_0f3152c71c.jpg


oh well... maybe I'll get to tour it before I leave...

and while walking around hollywood I saw a SIGN of the times to come

142369800_8c945b03bc.jpg


BELIEVE!
nice pics, mind taking some more of the convention center for us at home :D
 

gimz

Member
my manager just called, and he allow me to take 2 days off till Wedensday, so i will able to watch the Nintendo Conference live on tuseday!!(if the steaming video is watchable) Horraaaayyy!
 

Saoh

Member
polg said:
so I went to Kodak theatre today for a tour and... tours have been cancelled til wedsenday because of...

142369198_0f3152c71c.jpg


BELIEVE!

excellent :) i´ll watch it live during my lunch break at work. i may not eat at all ´cuz of anticipation.
 
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