Gunslinger
Member
IMO the runback was fair. Winner or loser shouldn't be decided on a version which they don't play on a regular basis. Plus props to Knucle du, beating kazunoko is no easy task but he did.
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DryEyeRelief
Member
He only needed six games to do it
Gunslinger
Member
But he still did. As a matter of fact these two are very evenly matched. First set was super close and the 2nd one Du was the winner. Every match is a back and forth between the two. Props to knuckle Du. He leveled up. As a matter of fact I believe if gamerbee didn't cheese him with Elena which is a horrible matchup for guile I think he could've beaten Gamerbee too. But would've gotten destroyed by daigo again though. That man was top of his game last night.
DryEyeRelief
Member
You mean like how Nuckledu cheesed Justin with using Guile vs his Rufus?
I think i'm starting to understand where you're coming from.
Props to Nuckledu
Gunslinger
Member
guile vs rufus is 5-5
No it's not. Dieminion thinks it's 6-4, Justin thinks it's 6-4, Ricky thinks it's tough (and Ricky thinks Evil Ryu/Rufus is 5-5, which boggles my mind).
You can't jump on reaction to sonic boom, it recovers too fast. You have to cross up or you get flash kicked. There are safe set-ups, but they suck. You have to read the cr.mk or defensive crouch jab to dive kick Guile. Guile wins the neutral game with better buttons. As Rufus, you get duffed with forward fierce five times a match trying to walk forward against a competent guile because you can't jump in that match.
It's one of Rufus' hardest matches in the game, right up there with Sagat.
call_kotaku
Member
Maybe Justin should've learned a counterpick in the 6 years that he's played the game
Kappa
Huw_Dawson
Member
Not even close to as bad as Sagat and Poision. You win the round with one good read.
Poison's not nearly as bad if you use W Ultra. You can catch her backdash and her fierce fireball and she has to think about love me tender.
You beat Poison by cornering her too, but getting in on Guile is harder because of flash kick IMO.
bistromathics
facing a bright new dawn
So is the only way to watch this to pay Capcom 5 bucks on their twitch account?
Capcom Fighters will rebroadcast the top 8 eventually.
SixMachine
Member
I would say that if they didn't replay any matches, KnuckleDu would have been robbed because Kazunoko was playing with a better version of Yun, with +1 ex lunge punch and better meter gain, and he still made it extremely close going to a 4th game. If it was the correct version in the first place, I think Du would have taken it. It's bad that rolling back the bracket had to happen but I think it had to be done to be fair since they need to play the correct version, even though Kazunoko still deserves props for what he has accomplished. Thumbs up to Choi for pulling through and giving Kazunoko a hand.
KidA Seven
Member
They have uploaded a lot of the matches on their youtube channel already.
Idk about the rest, but dieminion thinks its 6-4 for Rufus, not guile
sixteen-bit
Member
and shoryukentube has a lot of the off-stream matches as well
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
Ultra 1.0
Thanks.
It's really unfortunate that it happened. I feel bad for the players involved, but I do think that the runback was necessary. There was no situation where a set of players wouldn't feel somewhat robbed.
Ivan Amiibo
Banned
It was the most fair choice. and in the end, didn't make much of a difference...except kazunoko lol
It actually made a huge difference in the grand scheme of things since if it was Kazunoko that made it through then Daigo would have been in pretty deep shit.
nah
sixteen-bit
Member
Top 16*
Whoops. Right. Top 16.
Kazunoko struggled to beat 75% Daigo in the past so ehh, idk about that.
Plus Gamerbee still would have beaten him imo.
djplaeskool
Member
Just watched the Top 8 from USF4. Someone put up a poverty recording on Youtube.
God damn.
Daigo was just stealing everyone's soul. Body bags all over the place, man.
The true power of the Satsui no hadou.
God damn.
Daigo was just stealing everyone's soul. Body bags all over the place, man.
The true power of the Satsui no hadou.
Justin doesn't counterpick. He sticks it out win or lose no matter the game.
Daigo played that Dudley match perfectly. Damn, he owned Smug.
Only one who could've given him a fight that he faced was NuckleDu if he played Guile all the way
Justin didn't counterpick because his Rufus was enough to win US majors and minor tournies, now that the competion is fiercer and more international players are coming due to big payouts and sponsors his Rufus is not enough anymore, this is why he's learning Rose.
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
Disc USF4 and DLC USF4 are distinct games as far as the patching system is concerned, and they only had the patch for one of those versions. They used the wrong disc.
Emperor Bohe
Member
remember that one evo with Vanilla SF4 (maybe evo 2009)? Justin Wong vs Daigo grand finals... and then Justin pulled out the Balrog counter pick. He even reset from losers bracket.
Making it tonight.
Codiox
Member
Nice!