FearlessBelgian
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Amazing.
Deserved for this crap low content and micro-transactions sh*t .
Deserved for this crap low content and micro-transactions sh*t .
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NPD: Destiny 2 down 50% at retail vs. Destiny 1 retail
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Spukc
always chasing the next thrill
I have never fucked a LMAO before, but I spose this is your first Destiny thread, I have filled the destiny bingo card at least three times already.
kraspkibble
Permabanned.
that sucks. personally i'm enjoying D2 way more than i ever did with D1. not including expansions since we haven't actually got D2 expansions yet. D1 was a damn grindfest with so much clutter. It got better with expansions and I can only hope the same happens for D2 as well.
I understand the complaints people have for it but for me it's the better game and can only get better. Can't wait to play through it again on PC. oh and i bought it digitally on PS4. can't remember the last physical game i bought.
I understand the complaints people have for it but for me it's the better game and can only get better. Can't wait to play through it again on PC. oh and i bought it digitally on PS4. can't remember the last physical game i bought.
Irishonion
Member
I'm only one, but this is my first day one digital title. I buy all my other games I want day one as physical. Right now I'm full time on it, but will probably slowly turn into pick up and play for 30 minutes or so and play something else.
Sorry but have you played the game? The Microtransaction are useless and they gave to you nothing worthy the money you spend for and no advantage at all.
paperspace
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maverickjesus
Member
Yup this is exactly the same for me, and I was day 1 for D1.
kraspkibble
Permabanned.
ever verse content is definitely not worth paying money for. some of the stuff is cool i guess like sparrows and ships but the rest is just stuff like shaders/mods/ghost skins.
i don't know why i would pay real money when i can just play the game and get a bright engram every time i level up. plus they make it easier because every week you get more Xp for the first 3 levels. the only reason you'd pay real money is if you wanted more. same as Overwatch you get a loot boxes every time you level up but if you want more then you pay real money.
Aztechnology
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What's astonishing to me was their decision to not release the PC in parallel to consoles now having seen everything. Like at first I thought maybe they knew they had something with D2, so they were hoping to get people to double dip. Now I clearly see that's not the case, and it's going to effect their PC sales HEAVILY. Given that its Destiny, the smart move would have been to wait.
GraveRobberX
Platinum Trophy: Learned to Shit While Upright Again.
Um Shadows of Motor is that way ====>
Wrong thread
If you think content is low and is heavy handed in the MT department, you haven't played the game at all lol
I do think a lot of players were hesitant, the Beta didn't wow them, some pulled the Pre-Order
Also no Legacy version of PS3 and X360 to push those numbers up from 4 different devices, now down to 2. Soon to be 3.
Most now are buying digital, cause the old consoles wouldn't live up to Destiny and it's 55+ GB worth of data
Other games pulled away some players, like PUBG, GTAV Online and the constant stream of updates and other titles
Destiny came in with not much competition but since then, byt in 3 years the industry has shifted a lot and I don't feel Bungie felt other could match their title.
Destiny 2 has problems, issues, that can be addressed quickly, but Bungie is on Bungie time. Most who stay loyal do so cause this title gives them the community that they are now accustomed to
I mean if Destiny 2 OT doesn't reach Destiny OT |45| doesn't mean the title faltered, it's just new stuff to communicate has entered
Most use Discord or LFG sites.
So the OTs are less posted in
If you take that logic, same goes for Destiny 2 as competition, you can't stay on those 3 year old laurels and think players will stick around. Now more than ever people have a huge scope different genres to choose from
People will move to newer stuff, that gives them enjoyment for their time out into the game
Hopefully Bungie learns that in Year 4...
It's been 3 years since the original came out on 4 platforms, two of which were heavily physical, and is now out on two primarily digital platforms, and a third one which is going to easily be 99.5% digital sales (Battle.net)?
This isn't so much Destiny 2 as a telltale sign physical itself is on the decline.
Deathknell
Member
Fool me once..
Wow that number is crazy. Probably need to unpack it. I would imagine a fair amount of buyers realized they were in for the long haul and didnt want to disc swap. Totally a lurking variable due to the obsessive gameplay Destiny lends itself to. I expect sales numbers to be down, but that seems high. Destiny was the game you were playing everyday and new games cycled in and out here and there. Digital was key.
If I was making a big budget Destiny a-like in the current world of PUBG, I would definitely be watching these numbers like a hawk. Too soon to tell anything and PC hasnt dropped yet. If I buy, I am buying there instead of PS4 and I am sure others are the same. I dont think D2 is as high as 50% less successful-more physical media is dying * this is a game that would be always on= less boxed copies sold.
If I was making a big budget Destiny a-like in the current world of PUBG, I would definitely be watching these numbers like a hawk. Too soon to tell anything and PC hasnt dropped yet. If I buy, I am buying there instead of PS4 and I am sure others are the same. I dont think D2 is as high as 50% less successful-more physical media is dying * this is a game that would be always on= less boxed copies sold.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
I mean yeah obviously. We'rd looking at around 10% increase on the top eme end looking at industry wide stats (consider pc makes up a large percentage of those digital ratios and theee's no pc version for D2.
Either way we'rd looking at a substantial drop console wise.
I don't think the delay on pc has been tear beneficial. The hype has definitely come and gone to a casual onlooker.
The fact is that you can grab those item withouth paying a single cent: I've already got by the engram an exotic emoticon and the exotic sparrows and i haven't even bought nothing. Those are only coscmetic things.
Were heavily physical, but now primarily digital?
Hoho for breakfast
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Yes. The argument I'd make for it being a large difference though is that D1 launched 3 years ago. That's forever ago in digital sales time. There might be a 15%+ (a stab at a number with nothing to back it up) difference just from that alone.
Also the fact that many like myself learned with games like D1 that you should not buy games like this physically.
And yes I understand at the exact same time that some also learned from D1 that they should not buy D2 at all because it's the worst game ever created. So that will also account for a chunk of that drop.
To discount either (plus other considerations) is just bias at play.
He's talking about PS360 version of the game.
Wow, I totally forgot those versions even existed. Thanks.
geordiemp
Member
LOL terrible game, I only played it for 110 hours post.
You will be back for the expansion before Xmas, you know you will.
I wish I could get 110 hours of gaming enjoyment out of every game I buy.
formasymphonic
Member
Reading through the last 10 pages, its interesting to see the conversation being shifted to its a service game so it will still be profitable in the long run
The cnbc article doesnt mention anything about profitability - it literally just says retail sales are down. I dont think anyone is really expecting the game to be a bust, but the sales are definitely going to be overall lower than D1. Looking forward to getting some definitive answers from Actis quarterly reports so all the back and forth on this can end tbh.
As someone who was super all in on D1 before launch as a long time Bungie fan, felt real burned after buying collectors edition / season pass and have stayed away from D2 completely (I may reconsider when they do the cheap bundles in a year or 2 from now) its not like I want to see them fail on this... but I do think there are lessons for them to learn.
Hopefully they learn the right ones.
The cnbc article doesnt mention anything about profitability - it literally just says retail sales are down. I dont think anyone is really expecting the game to be a bust, but the sales are definitely going to be overall lower than D1. Looking forward to getting some definitive answers from Actis quarterly reports so all the back and forth on this can end tbh.
As someone who was super all in on D1 before launch as a long time Bungie fan, felt real burned after buying collectors edition / season pass and have stayed away from D2 completely (I may reconsider when they do the cheap bundles in a year or 2 from now) its not like I want to see them fail on this... but I do think there are lessons for them to learn.
Hopefully they learn the right ones.
But looking at just retail sales isnt selling the whole picture also. So many factors are different compared to 2014 where even last gen was still a part of it. And some people acting like it bombed and saying it deserved it etc. Think the discussion is more also how these retail stats become less relevant every month.
Expansions add content.
This thread is pretty much an exact rehash of the UK sales thread from a month ago.
People are still acting like digital sales were invented between the release of Destiny 1 and 2, still resorting to anecdotes in the face of data, etc.
Note the quote from Activision Blizzard about how Destiny 2 sales "surpassed the original's records for engagement and digital sales in launch week." They specifically don't say Destiny 2 sold more than 1, because it didn't.
People are still acting like digital sales were invented between the release of Destiny 1 and 2, still resorting to anecdotes in the face of data, etc.
Note the quote from Activision Blizzard about how Destiny 2 sales "surpassed the original's records for engagement and digital sales in launch week." They specifically don't say Destiny 2 sold more than 1, because it didn't.
Thats not the point. The point is that OP isnt telling the whole story. Not anymore and there are big other factors at play why its down in retail compared to D1. Its not as simple as "D2 sold 50% less then D1" as some users would like to believe.
LukasTaves
Member
Bought Destiny 1 digital. Didn't even downloaded the beta for the 2.
You also ignored the part where Destiny 2 was still the top selling physical release even thought it had a physical portion decline from D1 soooo either the entire industry is in trouble or physical is on the way out
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
Good. I have never, in all my years, been as burned by a game purchase as I was by buying Destiny 1 digitally.
Got to be a sizeable chunk of the market that bought the Taken King version and look at this version as "the one you obviously don't buy!". Fuck your expansions.
Got to be a sizeable chunk of the market that bought the Taken King version and look at this version as "the one you obviously don't buy!". Fuck your expansions.
Bits N Pieces
Member
Played the beta for Destiny 1, didn't buy the game. Didn't even bother to downloading the beta for the 2nd game and have no interest in the sequel either.
Anecdotal, but there does seem to be less people playing it on my Friends list compared to what I thought it would, comparing it to the first one anyway.
Still can't believe the lacklustre campaign again from Bungie, its mad.
Stallion Dan
Member
"All of this is playable space, it's real geometry, we could go there now".
Players remember these lies and the many others told.
Fool me once...
Players remember these lies and the many others told.
Fool me once...
Yeah, if you keep repeating this outside of the context it was said in, then you can make pretty much anything sound like a lie.
xviper
Member
Destiny 1 released when consoles (especially PS4) had no good online shooter games, except for Titanfall 1( killed by it's exclusivity) and Halo MCC ( broken matchmaking fucked it up)
and some players found Destiny 1 disappointing because they though it was Halo
so it's pretty normal for the sales to be lower than D1
and some players found Destiny 1 disappointing because they though it was Halo
so it's pretty normal for the sales to be lower than D1
I think physical is on the way out to some extent.
But I also think D2 sales overall are massively down from D1. Otherwise Activision would have said otherwise. If D2 sold more than D1 it would have been said.
Activity numbers from destiny tracker put it at around 3.6 million max daily global users since launch. I posted a link on the first page.
Stallion Dan
Member
The context of he was lying, and this lie was repeated in several showings.
"It's all playable terrain" in the context meant it's an actual space you could walk around in and not just a fake background. It's definitely not the best way of wording it and god knows Bungie oversold the game when hyping it up, but c'mon.
This is anecdotal but I don't know of a single person that has bought this game physical. There are 12 of us that play the game. While Destiny 1 around 8 of us bought Vanilla D1 physical and ended up regretting it because this is a game that's best owned digitally. Think a lot of people will be surprised by the digital numbers for this game.
Im more shocked that 1.3mil people bought this physically.
Im more shocked that 1.3mil people bought this physically.