Destiny 1 had a dropoff as well. Like i said destiny 2 has issues but twitch is the last place to determine if a game has a healthy population. Even if we did, like i said destiny is still in the top 10 usually which is pretty good.
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NPD: Destiny 2 down 50% at retail vs. Destiny 1 retail
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Destiny 1 had a dropoff as well. Like i said destiny 2 has issues but twitch is the last place to determine if a game has a healthy population. Even if we did, like i said destiny is still in the top 10 usually which is pretty good.
It will, liriks doing a 24 hr, summits streaming it, timthetatman, shroud, cohhcarnage,the list goes on.. will it retain those stats? Nope, but itll be up there for a good week
-hadouken
Member
Profound.
Regardless of where digital is at, the franchise has stagnated with this release. We can be sure Activision are disappointed considering their investment.
Compelling argument.
Karma has done all I want, ta. It's heartening to see that Bungie/Acti weren't rewarded for the half baked, cynical shit they pulled with the first game. As someone who has been a Bungie fan from the Mac days, I hope they can now learn from their recent mistakes.
SolidChamp
Banned
As a casual Destiny player, I appreciate the 50+ hours Ive put into D2 and feel as though this iteration of the game has been far more respectful of my (very limited) gaming time.
As a father of a two year old, I dont have the luxury of time that I did with D1.
So basically, my sudden drop off in playtime suits me just fine. Im at 298 with my titan, and I certainly dont have all of the fucking time in the world to level two more characters (thats time that could be spent with a Mario Odyssey or a Persona 5, to name a couple of examples).
I think it is about the wealth of great games now, and that D2 just doesnt have much to offer in the post-game aside from logging on to do a milestone or two or complete a nightfall. The raid certainly isnt something Im interested in, thats for sure.
I think Destiny has always suffered from something of an identity crisis, and that seems to have carried over to D2 and hurt sales a bit.
As a father of a two year old, I dont have the luxury of time that I did with D1.
So basically, my sudden drop off in playtime suits me just fine. Im at 298 with my titan, and I certainly dont have all of the fucking time in the world to level two more characters (thats time that could be spent with a Mario Odyssey or a Persona 5, to name a couple of examples).
I think it is about the wealth of great games now, and that D2 just doesnt have much to offer in the post-game aside from logging on to do a milestone or two or complete a nightfall. The raid certainly isnt something Im interested in, thats for sure.
I think Destiny has always suffered from something of an identity crisis, and that seems to have carried over to D2 and hurt sales a bit.
ethomaz
Banned
ethomaz
Banned
It can be true but double-dip is bigger than single dip at release. Publishers want to receive twice from the same guy no matter where it sells more.
For Destiny, in particular, there's a handful of people I've learned to just never engage with under any circumstances.
I wonder how much of an effect sales and community response will have on the game moving forward and how locked in Bungie really is. They're probably pretty deep on DLC 2 or something now. DLC 1 should be just about wrapped up now given its expected release later this year, right?
DIrtyWeasel
Member
I wouldn't be surprised. It's the first $60 console game I ever bought digitally because I know I'll be playing it on and off for the next few years.
Ok so 100 million in profit is ok as long as it wasnt 200 million at launch makes sense lol.
-hadouken
Member
I don't want Destiny to sink Bungie - I want them to reconsider how they've been doing things post Reach. Nice R6 btw.
Thanks, isnt Bungie totally screwed with their current contract? Acti owns them for a long while.
irrotational
Member
Have you read about the development of D1? The game was heavily rebooted about a year prior to release and existing missions and cut scenes got hacked around. At all times I think Bungie were trying to make the best game they could, they just needed more time to experiment.
As an example they were still trying to figure out internally how the main "mission select" should work... Should it be a list of missions like a traditional campaign game, or based on a map, a bit more like an mmo.
What happened with D1 was a common tale of bad dev tools, lots of experimentation needed, and finite budgets meaning *somwthing* had to be shipped.
I don't think you can describe it as cynical, and it certainly wasn't recent. The issues were happening through 2012 and 2013, 4 to 5 years ago.
D2 making less money won't give Bungie more time, or more freedom, rather Activision will be breathing down their necks even more.
Be careful what you wish for!
I mean Yeah it's relative but I'm sure Activision and bungie aren't happy to see the first sequel of their 10 year 500 million dollar project falling below expectations.
ethomaz
Banned
I don't know but I'm betting they were at least on par with sales from the first game, I would imagine.
Didn't D1 make that money back very quickly?... I think they're fine... D2 has a long life ahead of it, let's remember D1 hit it's stride and became even more popular after TTK.
Niceguydan8
Member
Not hitting expectations does not necessarily mean that the game wasn't profitable.
Patrick Young
Member
Assuming the download numbers have a similar trend, I'm glad.
Until now I thought I was the only one that remembered Destiny was terrible. It's good to know people remember being burned the first time. Maybe voting with your wallet is actually working this time.
Until now I thought I was the only one that remembered Destiny was terrible. It's good to know people remember being burned the first time. Maybe voting with your wallet is actually working this time.
Chobel
Member
Scorpio, people are waiting for the X.
InStrangerAeons
Member
I think I've just burnt out on the loot grind in video games.
I got through the campaign (which I enjoyed), burnt out trying to keep up, and traded it in for Amazon credit so I could buy PUBG.
I enjoy the worldbuilding that Destiny 2 brought but I'm just not interested in grinding for the sake of grind anymore.
I got through the campaign (which I enjoyed), burnt out trying to keep up, and traded it in for Amazon credit so I could buy PUBG.
I enjoy the worldbuilding that Destiny 2 brought but I'm just not interested in grinding for the sake of grind anymore.
Haha im the opposite of you right now.. im burnt out on BRs.. waiting for more grind games to come out (destiny pc, lost ark, diablo 4, etc.)
Fucking lmao this hyperbole. Maybe some people felt burned after all the "this is only the beta, the rest will be bigger" when D1 came out and didn't want to buy into vanilla D2? Nah, must be half the dozen whinge thrads daily.
Yeah, but keep in mind, I'm sure a lot of people bought this digitally over retail, considering the kind of game Destiny is and how digital has blown up in the past 3 years.
Love it or hate it, I always find it strange that some people seem excited about the idea of a developer going under or their game failing.
"I don't like this game therefore its potential success offends me."
I played a ton of D1 and so far a lot of D2. I like it but it's just not keeping my interest like D1 did and in fact I'm not too worried about missing nightfalls/Xur/IB, etc. I share a lot of the same issues and concerns many other players do. That said, wishing or celebrating failure just seems like an incredibly immature exercise in futility.
"I don't like this game therefore its potential success offends me."
I played a ton of D1 and so far a lot of D2. I like it but it's just not keeping my interest like D1 did and in fact I'm not too worried about missing nightfalls/Xur/IB, etc. I share a lot of the same issues and concerns many other players do. That said, wishing or celebrating failure just seems like an incredibly immature exercise in futility.
Don't u know that a lot people on GAF have a weird fetish with sales numbers. Its cool to see how games do via numbers, but some people take it to the extreme
SolicitorPirate
Member
It's one of the many signs of the emotional immaturity of the wider gaming fanbase. For a group of people who claim to love games, we spend a whole lot of our time wishing ill on developers and their games.
Amen to this!
giant_frying_pan
Member
Destiny 3 will solve everything.
You didn't make an argument in the first place. You just typed factually incorrect nonsense that only a minority of people enjoyed Destiny 1.
No. Wrong. It was a popular game with a very large fanbase. If you want to try and make a point, do it without troll-like comments and ranting about "karma" while also acting as if the game bombed.
nekkid
It doesn't matter who we are, what matters is our plan.
Unless D1 sold zero digitally, it would have to be much higher than that.
SolidChamp
Banned
It did for me, though.
Ivory Samoan
Gold Member
Same boat here as I stated earlier, literally everyone I knew who bought it first time round got retail, this time literally everyone I know getting it has gone digital.
A lot of the reason for this (in my group of mates anyway) is purely convenience: they know D2 will be a long term haul, so don't want to swap discs all the time, so everyone went digital.
Hestisdabest
Member
SP is really average,MP is Trash and the end game is hot garbage.
My friend who put THOUSANDS of hours into destiny 1 uninstalled the game and swore off the game.
I've only made a hunter and she's 295 and I don't even wanna play anymore my self.Destiny 1 I had all 3 characters maxed level after every dlc.
What a let down this game was
My friend who put THOUSANDS of hours into destiny 1 uninstalled the game and swore off the game.
I've only made a hunter and she's 295 and I don't even wanna play anymore my self.Destiny 1 I had all 3 characters maxed level after every dlc.
What a let down this game was
Liliana Eileen
Member
Agreed x100.
Rumblebones
Banned
Anecdotal, but pertaining to myself and a significant number of friends of mine, a lot of us felt burned by how shallow the original base game was and didn't stick around for the DLC or revamps that came with them and certainly had no interest in Destiny 2 as a result.
I entertained getting it on PC, but I was very much on the fence, and am now so disinterested in the entire franchise I anticipate I'll only be hearing about it in passing because I have no reason to want to give it another go, and the same can be said for my friends. Some of them were still willing to give Destiny 2 a shot, but didn't upon realising not enough of us were interested for them to want to invest their time and money.
I entertained getting it on PC, but I was very much on the fence, and am now so disinterested in the entire franchise I anticipate I'll only be hearing about it in passing because I have no reason to want to give it another go, and the same can be said for my friends. Some of them were still willing to give Destiny 2 a shot, but didn't upon realising not enough of us were interested for them to want to invest their time and money.
It's not that strange. Because a lot of game companies just mimic the last big success. Like how Bioware is making Anthem due to D1 success. Or how all Ubisoft games are going to be influenced by the Division.
Having something you don't like become very popular or profitable means more investment in games, sure, but often in games you have no interest in playing.
It's not zero sum, but there is some substitution.
Souldestroyer Reborn
Banned
Pretty much.
Activision would have been looking for an increase in profits over what D1 made, still time to do that, but starting off behind makes it more difficult.
As for being locked in/tied down, I believe theyve pretty much sold their soul to the devil.
RoI was supposed to be when D2 launched, Actvision let them do an expansion instead and pushed back D2. Ive seen it posted on various sites that if conditions werent/arent met then Activision would be contractually allowed to take over the IP/Major shares in Bungie.
Problem with the above is Ive, and no-one else has seen the contracts so its hard to know how true it is.
Blows my mind Bungie would get out of bed with MS and then jump into this with activision, if true.