Karsticles
Member
Destiny was marketed as the rebirth of Halo. People were hyped because Halo has gone down in quality. Then it turned out that wasn't the case.
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NPD: Destiny 2 down 50% at retail vs. Destiny 1 retail
- Thread starter Primethius
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For it's first calendar year.
Theyre probably banking hard on PC selling a ton. With negative feedback + delayed release, I doubt this estimate will be anywhere near the mark though.
Niceguydan8
Member
I don't like it when people complain about Destiny without reason, but if those people criticizing the lack of RNG really are into that sort of thing (min/maxing, RNG rolls exist all over the place in certain very popular RPGs), then it's hardly a false or poorly informed opinion. Those people could still very well want to love Destiny 2, but if they really cared about the RPG aspects, it really is kind of an empty shell compared to the first entry.
MatPiscatella
Member
Be sure to tune in to next week's full NPD results thread. Data and media release will happen Thursday afternoon.
Should be fun.
Should be fun.
Daphnes Nohansen Hyrule
Member
Not as severe as in the rest of the world but an awful result anyways.
I don't think Activision will give Bungie even half of the budget for Destiny 3 after this.
I don't think Activision will give Bungie even half of the budget for Destiny 3 after this.
I'd be interested to see what digital sales are like. I usually buy games wherever I get the lowest price at the time, but Destiny is one of those series I prefer to buy digitally. I know it's something I'm going to play on and off for a few weeks/months when content updates become available over the next few years (until the next proper sequel is out). Over that time period it just becomes convenient not to be bound by having the disc around at all times. That's just my anecdotal experience, but curious how much of a rise digital sales saw.
You can't be serious with this hyperbolic hot take.
an incomplete checkbox on a major platform is a factor. regardless of mythologizing over what a "pc gamer" is. supposedly they just play dota and pubg, or something?
and that some people want to handwave digital is just... er, okay. its like saying nobody bought a certain movie in 1998 on dvd and three years out - we don't have the data yet - but VHS sales are way down. studio really dropped the ball on this one
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
Some intresting stuff from ZhugeEX.
This sums it all up.
Starbuck2907
Member
People like me saw the expansion pricing for the first game and have decided to wait for s GOTY edition or get it on Black Friday so getting the game and the season pass isnt such a ripoff.
Plus, ingrams, end game, and loot box situations are off-putting. Might as well wait for about 3 more major patches and hope they fix all that before jumping in.
Plus, ingrams, end game, and loot box situations are off-putting. Might as well wait for about 3 more major patches and hope they fix all that before jumping in.
BanjoLayleeYookaKazooie
Banned
I'll be there, with any luck. Hoping Mario + Rabbids, SNES Mini and all the consoles did well.
I can't wait, I can't wait! (Said in Monokuma's voice).
firstadopter
Member
Looking forward to it Mat.
I would LOVE LOVE a Destiny 2 title specific total sales number [digital + physical] vs. Destiny 1 percent growth/decline number.
Niceguydan8
Member
I mean, it's also probably the smallest platform the game will release on of the three platforms, by a pretty large margin.
I'm of the opinion that there probably aren't even half of the Xbox One's install base that could realistically run Destiny 2 on PC, at least not in the US.
PC launch will have an impact, but I think it will be relatively small compared to the other two consoles by a pretty large margin.
It's not that interesting. He calls the report "pointless" despite the report literally comparing apples to apples. The game sold less physical copies compared to the first game. That's all the statistic is. Now, there are other reasons to explain why that may happen, but that's not the point of this statistic and to call it "pointless" and cite CCU and the apparent success of the game is kind of a joke. The game selling less than the original game theoretically could still have a large CCU, so there's nothing that the CCU number is actually refuting. The game could still be "successful" and sell less physical copies than the last game. The report itself is not making the statement that the game overall is selling less, yet he seems to address it like it is.
ethomaz
Banned
I call 1.3 million CCU a record for the franchise... bullshit.Some intresting stuff from ZhugeEX.
While I did like the feel of the gameplay in Destiny 1 (such as it was) it definitely was one of the games this gen that I felt pulled a fast one on me.
It was so horribly lacking in content at launch that I was done with that game before the first raid even dropped. And I got the Season Pass, too 😡
I figured they would be improving the gameplay this time around and my brief time with the PC beta convinced me to give this one a shot. But I can imagine many many players who felt as I did not making that plunge.
I came in here looking for this info. Thanks! Looking forward to it.
ethomaz
Banned
Well if Destiny 2 was like Destiny 1 vanilla it should have more engagement... but it is a sequence of bad decisions started with TTK.
TurtleSnatcher
Member
I dont think as a publicly traded company they can do that so it's most likely true.
BarringGaffner
Member
Well that's the narrative that was out there...
- more story! because Destiny 1 lacked story
- more variety! because Destiny 1 lacked variety
- guided matchmaking! because Destiny 1 lacked matchmaking.
etc etc.
They were filling holes and there are quality of life improvements but it is a lot less exciting than the first game 'FROM THE CREATORS OF HALO, A BRAND NEW MMO FPS... ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE!'
And you don't need to convince me about Destiny, I love both games and am really impressed by Destiny 2 improvements.
Pc sales wouldnt change that number as they would all be digital anyway
ethomaz
Banned
What publicly traded company? lol
Destiny at peak beat this number easily.
So bullshit...
And of course Bungie never said something that didnt happened.
Lmao
DalikSkywing
Member
You serious?
MatPiscatella
Member
Get a grip.
ethomaz
Banned
Of course... Destiny had way more CCU... not at launch of course but it was not record.
Made up info... so?
Niceguydan8
Member
I think you are being asked if you are serious that you don't know that Activision Blizzard(a publicly traded company) is paying Bungie to make the Destiny series.
ethomaz
Banned
TurtleSnatcher
Member
Google ATVI.
Yes - That is the publicly traded company that made those statements. They can't mislead investors. They would be destroyed by the government for misleading investors...
Surface of Me
I'm not an NPC. And neither are we.
According to the blog post Bungie stated the 1.3 million player count, it was the record for Destiny 2 itself. Not the franchise. Im also doubtful that the 1.3 million is the franchise peak.
Jawmuncher
Member
Some people might disagree with this. But I see that being the case for some.
Especially when it's essentially what IHE's stance is on the game on his youtube channel. Hell back before we knew what it was the assumption was basically it was going to be their multi-platform halo title in a sense.
ethomaz
Banned
They never said it is a record for the franchise... cmon.
Anybody that believes that has no ideia how Destiny activity was way bigger than Destiny 2.
MatPiscatella
Member
pokeystaples
Banned
Same. I knew it would be easier to just boot it up. I normally roll physical for everything but it makes no sense for Destiny.
Orthogonal
Member
They cant lie, but they sure can spin the truth.
it's the smallest install base but still about 20% of the market *at minimum* if you average out AAA releases. there's simply no sense in making it a non factor even if it was a Lawbreakers-sized flop or whatever
and the game's min specs require a GPU you could buy half a decade ago. it's not like droves of people are walled off given the option of console vs pc
ethomaz
Banned
Launch week...
Even so they say engagement and digital sales... why left physical users left?
Im pretty sure you know companies spin like that.
No. CCU is not even close to be a record to the franchise.
I say what?.., what are you trying to defense? Destiny had way more CCU at peak.
MatPiscatella
Member
What?
They're talking in launch week. That's why it says "in launch week". So yes, it is a record for the franchise in the time period stated in black and white.
Once again you're arguing against a point that isn't being made.
People thinking PC would make up the numbers.... really doubt it. console is destiny bread and butter they even delayed it o PC by quite a while so there really isnt that mystery anymore or the rush for pc gamers to partake in the raid etc. I would love to be proven wrong but i doubt it will do well on PC
Every one else keeps giving you information and you keep repeating your feelings...
ethomaz
Banned
I believe you didnt read his tweet.
Yeap like the *
* at launch week, engagement, digital.
the tweet continues being false info.
MatPiscatella
Member
At no point, anywhere, has anyone talked about all-time peak.
You should go read it again.
TurtleSnatcher
Member
Hmm...
Believe the guy who works at NPD or the guy who has broken grammar in every post?
Believe the guy who works at NPD or the guy who has broken grammar in every post?
ethomaz
Banned
He clearly said it is a record for the franchise...
chromatic9
Member
The UK, wait US market is trash.
And another one.
And another one.
Niceguydan8
Member
I did not say it would be a non-factor.
Let them eat crow