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[DR2K]

Am I the only one who doesn't think that Halo Reach will bump 360 sales? If you care enough about Reach that you'd buy a 360 for it, don't you already own a 360?

It'll bump it, just not really significant.

 

[Magicpaint]

Very encouraging start for DQIX. Hope this thing really takes off and grows big, strong legs like the Layton games.

 

[Pociask]

I doubt quality matters much in an age where NSMB sells 20 million copies.

Man, this and a Mama gif. NPD threads are back, baby!

 

[OldJadedGamer]

Halo 3 sold more than that.

Wow, just looked it up and Halo 3 sold 3.3million it's first month alone. Wow.

 

[AniHawk]

Man, this and a Mama gif. NPD threads are back, baby!

Yeah, that wasn't sarcasm.

 

[The Technomancer]

Yeah, that wasn't sarcasm.

...*squints eyes* was that sarcasm right there?

 

[Gin]

DRAGON QUEST IX®: Sentinels of the Starry Skies™ for Nintendo DS at No. 8 with more than 132,000 sold

http://www.nintendoeverything.com/47165/

 

[Version 3.0]

Am I the only one who doesn't think that Halo Reach will bump 360 sales? If you care enough about Reach that you'd buy a 360 for it, don't you already own a 360?

That's what was said about ODST...and it was true.

Who knows, though? It probably depends a lot on how much marketing Microsoft puts behind it, and how effective that marketing is. And after its launch, if word-of-mouth is good and in the vein of "it's not the same old thing", that might help, too. I think this Christmas season is shaping up to be the least predictable this gen, and that's saying something.

 

[Yagharek]

I'm going to eat some crow regarding how I thought 360s would sell. Luckily I never posted those thoughts

 

[donny2112]

LOL, Nintendo family.

1) They don't say "family" to combine Wii and DS. The only time "family" is mentioned is for DS, since they're combining multiple variations to get the monthly number.
2) They've combined systems and said that they sold 50% of the hardware that month (or whatever) several times before.

never thought I'd see the day when Nintendo would have to resort to pulling out the family card.

Then good news, they haven't. Unless you're talking about what they've already done several times before to list total hardware sales for Wii and DS in a month without saying anything about a "Nintendo family."

 

[AniHawk]

...*squints eyes* was that sarcasm right there?

Nope. NSMB was disappointing for the most part, but it was marketed pretty well and it's one of the few default purchases for new DS owners.

NSMBW is the game NSMB should've been.

 

[evangd007]

What big holiday game do they have?

3DS launch games.

 

[Segata Sanshiro]

132k for DQ IX is not that great, considering all the marketing they put in, i'd say those numbers are pretty bad.

it most probably did far better in the EU.

It's a significantly higher debut than Dragon Quest 8, which had a freaking Final Fantasy mainline playable demo included. I would say it's pretty damned good. Like, 3 JRPGs have had a higher debut this gen.

 

[Curufinwe]

3DS launch games.

It's not coming out this year in the US.

 

[Segata Sanshiro]

It's not coming out this year in the US.

You privy to some info the rest of us aren't?

 

[GarthVaderUK]

If you care enough about Reach that you'd buy a 360 for it, don't you already own a 360?

I personally do, but that Reach 360 S is calling to me - I'd like to upgrade to a 360 S this year, the Reach one looks nice and it makes Halo noises

 

[Stage On]

GO Dragon Quest 9 go.

It brings a tear to my eyes to see it actually chart! Looks like advertising really does make a difference

 

[donny2112]

NPD has announced that SCII sold 721,000 retail copies in the US in two days:

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6273320.html?part=rss&tag=gs_news&subj=6273320

No. NPD announced that Starcraft II sold 721K in July's NPD period which covers 5 days and only retail copies. Gamespot has the # of days wrong. Doesn't change what I said.

 

[Keavy_Rain]

I thought the 4 GB one was $150 - must have been a sale on Best Buy's website. Hammers the point home more - the price has largely remained the same.

At launch:

Xbox 360 with wired controller, no internal memory, no Wi-Fi $299
Xbox 360 with wireless controller, 20GB HDD, no Wi-Fi $399

Now:

Xbox 360 with wireless controller, 4GB internal memory, Wi-Fi $199
Xbox 360 with wireless controller, 250GB HDD, Wi-Fi $299
Xbox 360 LE with two wireless controllers, headset, Halo Reach, Wi-Fi $399

Price hasn't changed much in four years, but what comes in the box sure has changed a lot.

Am I the only one who doesn't think that Halo Reach will bump 360 sales? If you care enough about Reach that you'd buy a 360 for it, don't you already own a 360?

I had a 360 until my sister's 360 broke down and MS asked her for $125 to fix it. Since I was gonna pick up Reach and was wanting a Slim for Kinect, I traded her my working 360 for her broken one, sold it and the accessories to GameStop, and put a reservation down on a Halo Reach 360. We may see other people do the same thing, especially those with families that are interested in Kinect.

 

[Curufinwe]

You privy to some info the rest of us aren't?

No, it's just all the discussions about the 3DS that I've heard make it sound like it will be released in Japan late this year, and early next year in America.

 

[C4Lukins]

If you follow the logic that every Halo fan should have the system by now then you can apply that logic that every shooter fan should have the console already. Of course that doesn't make sense or reality. All big games sell consoles, it might not be a huge bump but also sells the system over time.

Oh and yeah I forgot that it was the first Halo released. :lol

The main reason that a new Halo will sell the 360 is because of a new giant Halo marketing campaign which in essence is a new giant 360 marketing campaign. Then for the collectors you have a probably semi limited edition 360 console launching with the game that is not completely hideous like the Halo 3 360.

As for the hardware sales. Good on the 360. It did not just beat the Wii, it beat the shit out of it, which is something new. It even defeated the DS which did not have bad month by any means. The PS3 performed typically decent without making much waves. The Wii seems to be losing steam quickly. Which means it is no longer kicking ass and taking names, but is merely performing awesomely and having a typical old school PS2 month instead of a ridiculous Wii month.

Software though is really unimpressive. NCAA 360 performing worse then its predecessor, even if only by a little, and the PS3 version performing well compared to the overall US userbase of the systems is probably a bit disconcerting for MS. While Sony is not eating into MS's North American console userbase, they seem to be doing a good job on the software side. My explanation for this is that the 360 has done such a fantastic job entertaining consumers in other areas that it could be effecting retail sales.

I boot up the 360, and lets say I have 15 friends on during an average night, and I would venture to guess that more then half of them are watching Netflix, playing an XBLA game, or doing something else that does not even register as playing a retail game.

 

[OldJadedGamer]

At launch:

Xbox 360 with wired controller, no internal memory, no Wi-Fi $299
Xbox 360 with wireless controller, 20GB HDD, no Wi-Fi $399

Now:

Xbox 360 with wireless controller, 4GB internal memory, Wi-Fi $199
Xbox 360 with wireless controller, 250GB HDD, Wi-Fi $299
Xbox 360 LE with two wireless controllers, headset, Halo Reach, Wi-Fi $399

Price hasn't changed much in four years, but what comes in the box sure has changed a lot.

September 3rd, 2008 was the last time the 360 had a price drop on the current entry price model of the 360. Almost a full 2 years ago.

 

[donny2112]

September 3rd, 2008 was the last time the 360 had a price drop on the current entry price model of the 360. Almost a full 2 years ago.

Well, they've had a price drop on the arcade to $150. If you ignore that, then they've actually had a price increase, since there's not a $199 model currently.

Edit:
Your point is still valid, though.

 

[The Technomancer]

Nope. NSMB was disappointing for the most part, but it was marketed pretty well and it's one of the few default purchases for new DS owners.

NSMBW is the game NSMB should've been.

Ah! There it is. I was like "I thought Anihawk loved NSMBWii, was I wrong?". Mixed up the versions.

 

[OldJadedGamer]

Well, they've had a price drop on the arcade to $150. If you ignore that, then they've actually had a price increase, since there's not a $199 model currently.

Edit:
Your point is still valid, though.

The 360 that was currently in production has never dropped below $199. Only discontinued models dropped below that mark.

Oh, and $199 360 right here. If you order in the next 20 hours you can even have it delivered this Saturday

http://www.amazon.com/Xbox-360-4GB-Console/dp/B003O6JKLC/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1281667091&sr=8-5

 

[comedy bomb]

Sonic 4 especially really should be a retail game.

Sega should release a Wii retail version for $49.99 and then give free download codes away for the 360/PS3 version at Taco Bell or something.

It's what EA would do.

 

[Keavy_Rain]

September 3rd, 2008 was the last time the 360 had a price drop on the current entry price model of the 360. Almost a full 2 years ago.

When compared to the PS3, the 360's price looks almost criminal and I'm not going to deny that, but it's not like we're talking about the consoles as if they were the previous gen's, where the console (largely) remained the same over time.

I think we're going to have to learn to adjust to the Apple pricing model moving forward, where we get more in the box plus hardware revisions instead of price cuts. Look at the Wii, for example. $199 for a Wii with Wii Motion Plus, Wii Sports and Wii Sports Resort. It's been out nearly four years and has only dropped $50, but has added more stuff to the box.

 

[AniHawk]

Like, 3 JRPGs have had a higher debut this gen.

Actually DQIX doesn't break the top 10.

Super Paper Mario, Pokemon HeartGold/SoulSilver, Pokemon Diamond/Pearl/Platinum, Final Fantasy XIII, Crisis Core, Kingdom Hearts DS, Mario & Luigi 2, Mario & Luigi 3, Demon's Souls, Lost Odyssey (not in that order).

...However, DQIX's numbers are pretty good, yeah.

 

[Keavy_Rain]

The 360 that was currently in production has never dropped below $199. Only discontinued models dropped below that mark.

Oh, and $199 360 right here. If you order in the next 20 hours you can even have it delivered this Saturday

http://www.amazon.com/Xbox-360-4GB-Console/dp/B003O6JKLC/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1281667091&sr=8-5

I think he's referring to the fire sales on the old 360 models. IIRC Amazon and a few other places dropped the Arcade units to $150 or had them at $199 plus $50 gift card. Like you, I wouldn't consider a fire sale to be the same as a price cut.

 

[OldJadedGamer]

I think he's referring to the fire sales on the old 360 models. IIRC Amazon and a few other places dropped the Arcade units to $150 or had them at $199 plus $50 gift card. Like you, I wouldn't consider a fire sale to be the same as a price cut.

Well, you could if you wanted to but after the fire sale on old models is over the MSRP for the system is still $199. The fact remains that a system that was currently in production has never retailed for under $199. And stores can give them away for free and it doesn't change that the 360's in production have never dropped below that price in almost two years.

 

[Segata Sanshiro]

Actually DQIX doesn't break the top 10.

Super Paper Mario, Pokemon HeartGold/SoulSilver, Pokemon Diamond/Pearl/Platinum, Final Fantasy XIII, Crisis Core, Kingdom Hearts DS, Mario & Luigi 2, Mario & Luigi 3, Demon's Souls, Lost Odyssey (not in that order).

Ah, I always forget those cursed Pokeymans. The three I had in mind were FFXIII, Mario & Luigi 3, and Lost Odyssey. The rest, well... haha. SPM is a Metroidvania, though, not an RPG.

Regardless, I can't imagine 132k for DQ9 is seen as anything other than a win from all parties involved.

 

[goldenpp72]

I think MS philosophy is just to keep adding value rather than drop price, kinect is the next thing, and by next year, we'll probably see price drops on those.. so a kinect 4gb model will be 200 and the 250 gig will be 300 :lol

Edit: Spelling

 

[Atomski]

Am I the only one who doesn't think that Halo Reach will bump 360 sales? If you care enough about Reach that you'd buy a 360 for it, don't you already own a 360?

With the Halo: Reach special edition console I am pretty sure it will get bumped. I know a few friends who are going to pick it up.

 

[seady]

What big holiday game do they have?

They have a ton of games this holiday, but the ones that will take the center stage will be Wii Party and especially Donkey Kong Country Returns. The latter will not have the level of impact of New Super Mario Bros. Wii, but will be very close.

 

[OldJadedGamer]

I think MS philosophy is just to keep adding value rather than drop price, kinect is the next thing, and by next year, we'll probably see price drops on thought.. so a kinect 4gb model will be 200 and the 250 gig will be 300 :lol

I agree but I do think they should at least try to get to $99 but look how long it took the PS2 to get there.

 

[AniHawk]

SPM is a Metroidvania, though, not an RPG.

I guess that's a better fit for it. Just replace it with FFIII DS.

 

[Basileus777]

They have a ton of games this holiday, but the ones that will take the center stage will be Wii Party and especially Donkey Kong Country Returns. The latter will not have the level of impact of New Super Mario Bros. Wii, but will be very close.

Oh, come on now.

 

[Segata Sanshiro]

I guess that's a better fit for it. Just replace it with FFIII DS.

Okay so I'm going to go with it being in the top 3-selling JRPGs this gen that do not involve cockfighting, Nomura-taint, or elegant moustaches.

 

[The Technomancer]

Oh, come on now.

It all comes down to Nintendo's marketing. If people know it exists, it will sell, especially to the 20something demographic that grew up with DKC

Also, I really hope that DQ IX has legs. Nothing would make me happier then to see it eventually break around 7-800k

 

[ULTROS!]

Good news for DQIX.

Now I wonder if Birth by Sleep will appear in next month's NPD.

 

[Basileus777]

It all comes down to Nintendo's marketing. If people know it exists, it will sell, especially to the 20something demographic that grew up with DKC

Sell well? Sure. Have an impact very close to NSMB Wii? Not a chance.

 

[Segata Sanshiro]

Good news for DQIX.

Now I wonder if Birth by Sleep will appear in next month's NPD.

That's going to be the last pulse-check for the PSP. Peace Walker already demonstrated that the previous "hits can break through" status quo on PSP could be gone. If Kingdom Hearts can't do it, you can stick a fork in the PSP in North America.

 

[shintoki]

T2 must be happy with Red Dead. It keeps trucking.

And hopefully we can get PSP to do worse. Lets get a price drop going before Ys VII comes out ^_^.

 

[Micromegas]

+1 Woot for Dragon Quest. Don't care about the rest.

 

[C4Lukins]

They have a ton of games this holiday, but the ones that will take the center stage will be Wii Party and especially Donkey Kong Country Returns. The latter will not have the level of impact of New Super Mario Bros. Wii, but will be very close.

No fucking way. I would usually not state something like that because Nintendo tends to prove me wrong time and time again, but no fucking way. It could still be a great success but if it sold half the number of New Super Mario Bros. Wii I will eat my own penis. I will add some guidelines. NPD plus UK certifications and Japan MC. I will not eat my own penis on a technicality.

 

[DR2K]

Good news for DQIX.

Now I wonder if Birth by Sleep will appear in next month's NPD.

I think it has a chance. Dissidia charted, so this should as well.

Also, how did DQVIII fare in its first month?

 

[duk]

360 gaining ground on PS3 in US, somewhat balances out WW sales I guess. The Core + Natal sku gonna sell like crazy Xmas time me thinks.

 

[Classic_Gs]

YoY

DS -26%
PSP -32%
360 119%
PS3 76%
Wii 1%

YTD

DS 3,469,800
PSP 683,300
360 2,368,400
PS3 1,805,500
Wii 2,659,600

LTD

DS 42,196,558
PSP 17,520,836
360 20,999,386
PS3 12,934,196
Wii 29,793,981

PSP might not break 1M for the year, lulz.

 

[AgentOtaku]

Just woke up to see the numbers. Both happy and surprised to see Crackdown2 on there.
Hopefully we'll get that proper sequel yet!

 

[seady]

Oh, come on now.

See who get the last laugh after this year.
People have joke about the sale of Wii Fit, New Super Mario Bros., Just Dance etc. Look what happened. Remember people saying Modern Warfare 2 will eclipse New Super Mario Bros sale last holiday season?

All Nintendo needs to do is to put DKC in a yellow box like the red box for NSMB, and sale will multiply by 10.