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Official March 2008 NPD - There are no words. Almost $1B in SW sales
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MobiusPigeon
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Avrum said:
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dammitmattt
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Sharp said:
I'm using my intuition. I have no clue what retailer preorders are, but I know that GTA is one of those rare games that appeals to both core gamers and the uncultured masses. Halo 3 did 3.3 million in week one, so I'm confident that with a much larger user base, GTA4 can do even more.
AlteredBeast
Fork 'em, Sparky!
You guys fortunately never worked videogame retail. We had a lot of kids coming in buying multiple versions of Nintendogs. I won't say that everyone does it, but it is a big enough statistic to make for more than just noise on the charts.
and I thought we were talking about Next gen sales? The DS need not apply.
and I thought we were talking about Next gen sales? The DS need not apply.
I don't think people double-dipped on Nintendogs in statistically significant amounts. If you want to set your sights on anything in that context, you'd want to bring up the Best Friends because it was bundled with DS units and Dalmatian just because it came out significantly later.
Stop this argument already. The answer is Pokemon. It always was Pokemon. Why do people keep forgetting how huge Pokemon is? Is the biggest gaming-related property in the world so ingrained into our culture that no one actually notices it anymore? Cause that's the only logical explanation I can think of.
DevelopmentArrested
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Sharp said:
Good news all around.
San Andreas has done under 9 million in the US, total, for all platforms. It is the best-selling game in the US. You have proposed that GTA IV will sell three-fourths of that in one week. I am skeptical, especially since--as I said--retailer preorders worldwide were something like six million.dammitmattt said:
MobiusPigeon
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Sharp said:
how well have previous GTAS done? i think this is a whole new ballgame. IMO GTA marks the beginning of next gen. People werent waiting for gta on ps2. it just happened. this is THE game.
Innotech said:
cuz no one but gaf is actually seriously counting it as software!!!! there'd be atleast 5 knock offs by now if it were.
dammitmattt
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HK-47 said:
Isn't that why people buy them? If they want multiple breeds to play with that are on different carts, wouldn't they have to buy multiple copies? Forgive my ignorance...I'm not a Nintendogs expert.
MisterHero
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Not it's not.jman2050 said:
ITSA MEEEEE MARIO
dammitmattt
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Sharp said:
I worked at EB during the Pokemon craze. I sold multiple versions all of the time.
MisterHero
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Noooo, no no noooo...jman2050 said:
...that's not true!!!
THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE!!!
[/luke skywalker]
dammitmattt
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Sharp said:
Dude, that's your 3rd or 4th post telling me that GTA4 won't sell 6 million in April. Chill
MobiusPigeon said:
Yeah, I know it comes with a free controller (yeah, I know what you're thinking, but despite that the game is sold as a game, not as an accessory) but according to you because the game rates low it shouldn't be considered as being sold as a game. I don't think that really matters... beyond conjecture anyway.
I have to provide some facts man, sometimes intuition just doesn't cut it. Oh, and those Okami sales are pretty surprising--I didn't realize it had even released in March.dammitmattt said:Dude, that's your 3rd or 4th post telling me that GTA4 won't sell 6 million in April. Chill
MisterHero
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Mario's still on top. His 2D DS outing is performing pretty well.TwinIonEngines said:
*jumps off balcony in defiance*
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAUUUGH
MobiusPigeon
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Sharp said:
if halo and cod can sell what they are selling, and GTA is VASTLY bigger than those...its gonna be big. I actually jumped back into TTWO stock for the next few week just because of this. I truly believe this will be the biggest game in a long time.
Avrum said:
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ok the next time we see big mother truckers on the charts month after month i swear before brahma and allah that i will personally drive to your house and hand you $1000.
dammitmattt
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Sharp said:
I'm well aware of the facts and I'm fairly decent at picking software sales. I'm probably overshooting it a bit with GTA4, but nothing surprises me anymore in this industry.
AlteredBeast said:
Talking about best selling franchises, this week EA announced that the Sims franchise has hit 100 million units sold.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/detail?blogid=19&entry_id=25739
I dont even own Wii Play. I bought 3 individual wiimotes and another nunchuk.MobiusPigeon said:
but the point there is, its a piece of software whether you count it or not. the package I bought didnt have the game and isnt nearly the same thing. But none of this really matters because Wii sfotware besides wii play sells and sells very well. a lot of third party software has gotten into the half a million range, and osme even higher. SOme are already million sellers. Who gives a shit about what Wii play does?
MobiusPigeon said:
You're going to have to break things down a show me what's so funny. My point is that WiiPlay is a game whether or not you want to play the "it doesn't count" card like so many aspects of Wii software seem to fall under. Believe me, I don't consider it a "quality" game myself, but I'm not going around denying its merit as a game.
So yeah, how the hell did you pull out your mothatruckers comment from that?
dammitmattt
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Mastperf said:
Read better. I never made a bet. I just said "bet on it."
However, I don't want my old tag so I'm not fighting the new one.
Wii Sports is the biggest system seller of this generation. To say it doesn't count and go "hurr, hurr, Minesweeper" is ridiculous, since people who buy PCs don't buy them to play Minesweeper. People who buy Wiis often buy them for Wii Sports.
And the cold, hard truth is that the gameplay of Wii Sports, though it lacks depth in some areas, offers something that you cannot get on the other two consoles, and something that apparently resonates with people (including so-called "non-gamers") like no game we've seen in a long long time. The reason Wii Sports is so successful is that it gets the fundamentals of its gameplay so RIGHT, that it doesn't really matter that the 5 sports included are just minigames instead of more complex full sports games on the Wii or other consoles.
I don't know why you guys are so confused at the Wii's success. For "casuals", Wii Sports and Wii Play and things of that sort are simple fun to have with your family and friends. (I would actually include Guitar Hero and Rock Band in the same "use the controller like the actual instrument/equipment" genre.)
The more "hardcore" fans, you have Zelda: Twilight Princess, Metroid Prime 3, Mario Galaxy, Smash Brothers, Fire Emblem, and almost anything else Nintendo comes out with. You also have little pieces of niche awesomeness, like Zack & Wiki and No More Heroes and Geometry Wars Galaxies, and original and ported light gun games have a new home. Even the hated "LOL PS2 ports" have extremely solid games mixed in, like Okami and Bully and RE4. From what I hear, Pro Evolution Soccer is best on the Wii, doing really awesome things with the controls. Then there's upcoming stuff like Mario Kart, the Symphonia sequel and some fantastic-looking Wii Ware games.
Why is this so hard to understand?
And the cold, hard truth is that the gameplay of Wii Sports, though it lacks depth in some areas, offers something that you cannot get on the other two consoles, and something that apparently resonates with people (including so-called "non-gamers") like no game we've seen in a long long time. The reason Wii Sports is so successful is that it gets the fundamentals of its gameplay so RIGHT, that it doesn't really matter that the 5 sports included are just minigames instead of more complex full sports games on the Wii or other consoles.
I don't know why you guys are so confused at the Wii's success. For "casuals", Wii Sports and Wii Play and things of that sort are simple fun to have with your family and friends. (I would actually include Guitar Hero and Rock Band in the same "use the controller like the actual instrument/equipment" genre.)
The more "hardcore" fans, you have Zelda: Twilight Princess, Metroid Prime 3, Mario Galaxy, Smash Brothers, Fire Emblem, and almost anything else Nintendo comes out with. You also have little pieces of niche awesomeness, like Zack & Wiki and No More Heroes and Geometry Wars Galaxies, and original and ported light gun games have a new home. Even the hated "LOL PS2 ports" have extremely solid games mixed in, like Okami and Bully and RE4. From what I hear, Pro Evolution Soccer is best on the Wii, doing really awesome things with the controls. Then there's upcoming stuff like Mario Kart, the Symphonia sequel and some fantastic-looking Wii Ware games.
Why is this so hard to understand?
Wow at the numbers, Pachter is better @Nintendo numbers than GAF!
Meh at the last 10 pages. :/
MS and Sony should drop their prices. Heavily. NOW!!!
Seriously, before this gen started, I thought we are going to see some insane price wars. It's one of the biggest dissappointement so far, that Nintendo is having really easy (too easy) because of the lack of counter attacks.
Meh at the last 10 pages. :/
MS and Sony should drop their prices. Heavily. NOW!!!
Seriously, before this gen started, I thought we are going to see some insane price wars. It's one of the biggest dissappointement so far, that Nintendo is having really easy (too easy) because of the lack of counter attacks.
Not that you would know the parameters of a bet that you didn't intend to make, but are "April" sales going to include a few days that spill over into May or are you people arguing strictly about what it sells on the 29th and 30th? Six million copies in two days will not happen. Four million in the first week can happen if Halo 3 did 3.3 million but I don't know if an entire first week would get counted or when the "reporting period" ends.
Definitely. PS3 launching at such a high price has allowed 360 to stay within $50 of it's launch price for nearly two and a half years which is kind of crazy considering PS2 went down by $100 after 18 months and was selling a lot more.
Definitely. PS3 launching at such a high price has allowed 360 to stay within $50 of it's launch price for nearly two and a half years which is kind of crazy considering PS2 went down by $100 after 18 months and was selling a lot more.
Analyst estimates are 6-8 million for first week GTA4 sales.Sharp said:
http://www.billboard.biz/bbbiz/content_display/industry/e3icf932209249e8961df78df172f38d5f0
http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=18260
chespace said:Wait for MGS4!
Or the Konami ID website!
Or the bittorrent of a patch of a beta that hasn't gone live yet!
So that's what that was... I downloaded the MGS4-thing, tried to play it, got a message saying I needed to download an update, tried to download update, nothing happened, I said "fuck this", deleted it and never looked back.
dammitmattt
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Mooreberg said:
NPD works on weekly schedules, not monthly, so you'll get the sales for 4/29-5/3 for both Mario Kart Wii and GTA4.
_Alkaline_
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Scrubking said:
I think so?
The game only came out two days ago.
viciouskillersquirrel
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Need some context, stat! How much did the PS2 version sell during its first month?Loudninja said:
Not in the US. Among other things, Halo 3 didn't sell 5 million in its first week in the US, and the article is using that as a "first week" reference. Worldwide I think it's quite feasible that GTA IV will hit six million--but that's not actually what we were discussing.Rhindle said:
DevelopmentArrested
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Scrubking said:
wow 116k in 2 days!
CowboyAstronaut
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jaaz said:
Believe it or not, the 360 has real shortages. That ends in the month of April.