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Unfinished and unpolished should be the tag line for Black and White.
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Peter Molyneux, legend
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Unfinished and unpolished should be the tag line for Black and White.
Prettt much every single one. Granted, I didn't play thta cube thing snd the trsil, but I sank msny hours into godus even. Just very frustrating how it got absndoned.
But actibg like hr didn't make good games is pure hubris.
Dr. Suchong
Member
I remember getting mad at him for calling 16bit consoles "Doorstops" in Edge iirc.
Love the guy though, despite his bloated claims.
Some incredible games.
His fervent attitude is something I miss.
Love the guy though, despite his bloated claims.
Some incredible games.
His fervent attitude is something I miss.
Dr. Suchong
Member
Pagusas
Elden Member
oops you are 1000% right, my bad!
The reaction to Peter Molyneux always felt like a toddler crying over christmas gifts, It's a pretty clear look into how seriously even adults take their pointless expectations. What should be a simple "it sucks it didn't live up to expectations" turns into betrayal, pathological lying and scam artistry. I would rather have an industry full of people who are open, ridiculously ambitious and always fall short than the backward looking, risk adverse and neurotic environment we have cultivated.
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Wildebeest
Member
Bullfrog's most successful game was Theme Park. Co-designed with Peter Molyneux and Demis Hassabis. If it was just Peter coming up with ideas that sounded cool to him and running his mouth, I doubt it would have been such a hit.
Chittagong
Gold Member
tylrdiablos
Member
Compulsive liar hasn't done anything decent in 20+ years... better throw some praise his way.
I think this is a good time to suggest the mods add some new reactions to posts, [Love], [Like], [Thoughtful], [LOL] etc aren't enough; they're too positive. We need [Garbage Post], [Obvious Troll] and [Please Go Away] etc.
I think this is a good time to suggest the mods add some new reactions to posts, [Love], [Like], [Thoughtful], [LOL] etc aren't enough; they're too positive. We need [Garbage Post], [Obvious Troll] and [Please Go Away] etc.
poppabk
Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future
I think it is more that as game development became more complex his vision for what he could achieve increasingly departed from what he could actually achieve.
I think he wanted to make the games he was talking about and had an idea about how they could be implemented, but it all collapsed under the complexity of just making the standard game.
His early games were a large part his creation, modern AAA games are a different beast.
PhaseJump
Banned
You're on a roll, OP. Keep going.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Milo
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curiosity:_What's_Inside_the_Cube
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godus
I'm no zoomer, and Fable is one of my all time favorite games; but this thread fishing for respect on his behalf is fucking retarded. The guy over promises and under delivers on everything. He's a fucking AAA budget parasite. Kickstarter probably loses money every time you say his name 3 times in a mirror.
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Beer Baelly
Al Pachinko, Konami President
chromhound
Member
Curiosity – What's Inside the Cube?...
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
And his Fable, felt like a Fisher Price: My First RPG.
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Azelover
Titanic was called the Ship of Dreams, and it was. It really was.
He likes to over-promise..
I was okay with it for a long time, but in 2009 when he basically sold his soul, with did the Project Natal thing(Kinect's codename). Smoke & mirrors, and blatantly lying, multiple times. That was a little too much for me.
So I'm not falling for it again.
I was okay with it for a long time, but in 2009 when he basically sold his soul, with did the Project Natal thing(Kinect's codename). Smoke & mirrors, and blatantly lying, multiple times. That was a little too much for me.
So I'm not falling for it again.
Impotaku
Member
Nitty_Grimes
Made a crappy phPBB forum once ... once.
Don’t forget Flood on the Amiga.
FF:Enhanced_Reality
Member
Pretty sure the title should say legend ... Ary bullshitter.
Ev1L AuRoN
Member
NiiloPielinen
Member
Started bright and ended up as a black hole?
I think he and George Lucas had the same problem: as long as there were limitations in place, either technical or financial, they were able to condense their ideas into a good product but once those limitations became less severe or were gone, they just tried to put in every thought they had.
Anyways, here is 3 hour comprehensive video about his whole career
Drizzlehell
Banned
I recently saw a clip of him talking about Kinect like it was the second coming of Christ during a Microsoft presentation on some game show, and then a quick cut of him in another interview saying that it was actually garbage, lol.
That man has a problem and it's good that he stepped down from the public light. I hope he's doing well but he shouldn't be doing any press ever again and just focus on making games, preferably with someone else directing the project.
That man has a problem and it's good that he stepped down from the public light. I hope he's doing well but he shouldn't be doing any press ever again and just focus on making games, preferably with someone else directing the project.
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
Legendary bullshitter
Nitty_Grimes
Made a crappy phPBB forum once ... once.
Also don't forget Druid II
www.lemonamiga.com
Druid II: Enlightenment
Druid II: Enlightenment is an Amiga gauntlet style shoot'em up game released in 1988 by Firebird.
www.lemonamiga.com
Boaty McBoatface
Member
He made Dungeon Keeper so everyone who hates get fucked.
CosmicComet
Member
To be honest, Kingdoms of Amulur was better than every Fable game.
Only the first Fable was decent. The rest sucked.
Only the first Fable was decent. The rest sucked.
Sentenza
Member
Even as someone who loved basically the entirety of Bullfrog's output, the latter half of his career instilled in me the STRONG suspicious that even his best accomplishments were probably a case of him lucking out with some competent hire and then taking credit of the final outcome while leeching on other people's talent.
I mean, we are talking about a man that admitted of entering game development AT ALL only to take advantage of a logistic error where he got delivered 40-something computers by mistake, for Christ' sake.
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BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
Black and White series is so underrated and weird.
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
And you've done what, exactly?
Futaleufu
Member
Most people here would pay and play the same AAA game for 3 generations straight. They don't care about creativity, they only care about immersion and story. They shun a creator who made very interesting and unique games just because his promises didn't live up to their AAA expectations.
Melon Husk
Member
Molyneux is a marketing man
Video game developers in the early days were not people with marketing skills - they needed him
Molyneux could sell a product and he sold the product damn well - too well
Biggest mistake was letting the marketing guy be the boss
Video game developers in the early days were not people with marketing skills - they needed him
Molyneux could sell a product and he sold the product damn well - too well
Biggest mistake was letting the marketing guy be the boss
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nikos
Member
Imagine celebrating somebody while they're still alive.
Thebonehead
Banned
Negotiator101
Member
Poor Peter has literally cut off his nose to spite his face. He was creative director at Microsoft in 2009 (how he pulled that off I don't know) but decided to leave to setup a new studio called 22cans 
. You couldn't make this shit up 
. You couldn't make this shit up
Negotiator101
Member
I'd argue Fable 2 at the time was a great game, how much of that had to do with him is another thing altogether.