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PS3's Blu-Ray has backed HD-DVD into a corner, can they save face?
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JadedGamer
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Izzy said:
By crap Sony format I mean BetaMAX, UMD, Blu-Ray and whatever else they had that failed. I'm not saying Blu-Ray will fail I'm just saying its not needed at this point, most people are just now building their DVD collections. The UMD is crap because they could have just put a HDD in the PSP and they could have had software that let you download DVDs to it which would have been much more convenient and you wouldn't have to pay $19+$19 for one movie wherever you wanted to see it, UMD and DVD.
Just a cheap shot for Sony to make more money.
JadedGamer
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ManaByte said:
UMD is a cheap shot for Sony to make money and you know it. If they were generous and put an HDD into the PSP it would have been so much better. Just think, do you really want to buy two of the same movies? Hell ****ing no. Do you know what thats like? Its like buying a CD for your car and having to buy another one for your iPod. It makes absolutely no sense.
JadedGamer
Banned
ManaByte said:
Why is it piracy? So if I rip a CD to my iPod its piracy?! They could just have a protected format right? If not then I guess iPods are illegal.
Kleegamefan
K. LEE GAIDEN
Jaded gamer, do you not realize the CD is a Sony format?
JadedGamer
Banned
DarienA said:
Considering the current PSP games I'm not suprised, I'm selling my PSP.
JadedGamer said:
Are there people who really think that folks go in to videogame stores to buy PSP videogames and since they can't find anything they want they "settle" for a UMD movie?
BTW PSP software seems to be selling fairly well as well, regardless of the lack of new titles.
Agent X
Gold Member
Kleegamefan said:I think you would look a lot less foolish, were it not for the fact the CD was invented by Philips and Sony
Very good point.
JadedGamer, just read the article jett mentioned earlier. It explains it all very nicely.
HomerSimpson-Man
Member
Junior members....sheesh!
ManaByte said:
Were you talking to me? I'm not surprised at all. I see where they are going, I just don't get the "logic" that someone goes to buy an interactive experience in a VG store and instead settles for something they can just watch... it doesn't work like that.
ManaByte
Rage Bait Youtuber
DarienA said:
No, just using your post as a backup against the Junior Member.
There are people who own NO games for their PSP and just use it for movies & music. When Sony first announced the PSP at E3 they said they wanted it to be the "Walkman of the 21st Century", and the UMD movie format is getting a ton of support with just about every major studio outside of Warner releasing movies on the format.
HD-DVD is faltering because there is pressure from duplication plants and studios to have only one format.
So how does that play into the hands of Bluray? Surely when bluray launches the same message will be passed onto them? i.e. one format or we don't launch our titles
That could actually be worse for bluray, because PS3 has to launch. Its not like some vapour HD-DVD player from Toshiba that was only going to ship in the 000's anyway. Delaying that isn't so bad. You can't delay PS3
So how does that play into the hands of Bluray? Surely when bluray launches the same message will be passed onto them? i.e. one format or we don't launch our titles
That could actually be worse for bluray, because PS3 has to launch. Its not like some vapour HD-DVD player from Toshiba that was only going to ship in the 000's anyway. Delaying that isn't so bad. You can't delay PS3
Crag Dweller
aka kindbudmaster
I have a few questions that I'd like to hear some thoughts on.
If the ps3 is the monster hit that its predicted to be, There are going to be alot of blu-ray players hooked up to tvs that can't fully take advantage of the technology that blu-ray has over dvd. How are movie studios going to convince those people to switch from dvds to blu-ray?
What effect will it have if the dominant movie player in the blu-ray userbase is the ps3? Is there a danger of blu-ray becoming "those movies that play on that playstation" to the mass market? Is that even a bad thing?
If the ps3 is the monster hit that its predicted to be, There are going to be alot of blu-ray players hooked up to tvs that can't fully take advantage of the technology that blu-ray has over dvd. How are movie studios going to convince those people to switch from dvds to blu-ray?
What effect will it have if the dominant movie player in the blu-ray userbase is the ps3? Is there a danger of blu-ray becoming "those movies that play on that playstation" to the mass market? Is that even a bad thing?
MightyHedgehog
Member
The thing is, to the average person, IMO, the value of BR and HD-DVD isn't clear or obvious...certainly nothing like it was going from VHS to DVD was. That's the weakest element about the next-gen disc media.
early buyers of PS3 are more likely to be aware of Bluray/have HDTVs.
Even if you don't have a HDTV, having a bluray/HD source under your TV might mean that when you come to buy Spiderman 3 on DVD, you get the slightly more expensive bluray version, because you know that you'll still get the same great DVD quality on your TV now, but when you inevitably replace your TV (with a HDTV), you'll benefit from the higher definition.
Even if you don't have a HDTV, having a bluray/HD source under your TV might mean that when you come to buy Spiderman 3 on DVD, you get the slightly more expensive bluray version, because you know that you'll still get the same great DVD quality on your TV now, but when you inevitably replace your TV (with a HDTV), you'll benefit from the higher definition.
MightyHedgehog said:
That's true to a certain extent... mainly because most of the world still has TVs only capable of SD.
But in the next few years as HDTV ramps up quickly, along with introduction of revolutionary technologies like CNT, which if all goes right should drive down the costs of high quality large flat panel displays dramatically, allowing for massive HDTV penetration...
the average person should have no troubles discerning normal DVDs from BRDs on a good quality display... at least if I'm not overestimating the masses.
MightyHedgehog
Member
Sure, I agree. But that's a pretty big gamble on top of another gamble. Basing success of one format mainly on the adoption of another completely different and potentially expensive item is pretty sketchy, in terms of timing. By then, there might be far better alternatives in the marketplace that not only make HD-DVD and Blu Ray look like the rushed stop-gap formats they are, but that come in at the right time for the mass market. For now, I can't see BR and HD-DVD going much past the enthusiast market for active use. For DVD, the wait was easy, because it came down to scaling in costs and a build up of content...that's not the case for these new formats that have a real dependancy on another purchase to make the new media able to be fully taken advantage of.
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