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[Stouffers]

So a little retro inspired game called Ion Fury just released its console ports and DF did a technical review. They’ve been fairly cozy with Resetera and made a thread to promote the video.

Within a few messages, the usual suspects took the thread off topic and began to question the video’s creator why he didn’t admonish the questionable and bigoted content of the game. Instead of veering the thread back on topic, the mods allowed it to continue and even banned members who wanted to get the thread back on the rails.

After 6 or so pages, John Linneman has called it quits from Resetera and it looks like he’s taken his collaborators with him.

This is a major loss for their forum. It’s both disgusting but completely on brand for a forum so far up its own ass it’s eating itself.

 

[888]

I was just thinking the other day that this was coming and I actually ran across a post on Twitter about that thread. They are a bunch of loonies.

 

[Rean no Kiseki]

Well some jackass here did the same some time ago...

 

[Stouffers]

Well some jackass here did the same some time ago...

Details?

 

[donfonzie]

It's heartening to see Digital Foundry stick to it's ethics, and not give in to someone's political agenda. If it's a game with multiple ports, Digital Foundry will do a technical analysis. Plain and simple.

Kudos to them for sticking to thier principles

 

[12Goblins]

are we not allowed to link to the thread? I want to see

 

[Darth]

Jesus, it can be a discussion on ERA about what Pizza is better, Dominos or Pizza Hut. If you don't turn the topic into and agreeing to how it is racist for preferring white cheese only with no black olives then you'll get banned.

Sorry for not boycotting a game because I have fun playing it and not because one developers third cousin did something racist 30 years ago. Reparations must be had before that game can be played.

 

[Fake]

Still don't know why take so long for him to do that. Even before Ion Fury get a console trailer I even knowed that this could happen.

 

[Stouffers]

are we not allowed to link to the thread? I want to see

I didn’t want to link lest we risk losing some of our talent to that great bastion of free thought and expression, Resetera.

 

[Rean no Kiseki]

Details?

I don't remember which thread it was but some idiots kept on insulting D dark10x for some stupid shit and John just said on twitter he's had enough.

I'll try looking for the thread.

 

[Rentahamster]

Details?

Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD

The xsx is going to be a 200-225w console because of RDNA2 power efficiencies and we know it's using an 8 shape power input. That power connector is good for 1250w. - Oberon = Navi 10 (GitHub leaks) - PS5 = RDNA 2 = Navi 2X - Navi 10 != Navi 2X -> Oberon != PS5 Mind showing us where GitHub...

www.neogaf.com

Courtesy of the console war battleground of the next gen leaks thread.

 

[Fake]

Forget about. Read the follow up.

 

[Stouffers]

So we’re not much better than, Resetera. Fantastic. Great job, demigod

 

[-Arcadia-]

Anyone have any links or screens?

It’s a shame. The DF guys seem to be genuinely good people, but humanity is going to humanity, with social justice or console warring. Even on a really well moderated forum like this, there’s only so much you can do about that, without clamping down to North Korea levels.

I think it’s for the best for John to take a step back from message boards, esp. a misery like Reset. He has this thing where criticism, even utterly crap criticism, weighs so much more heavily in his mind than all the deserved praise the channel gets.

Richard seems to wisely stay off forums, and just focus on making good content. The younger guys need to do the same, at least until they understand that not all opinions are worth taking to heart.

 

[#Phonepunk#]

So we’re not much better than, Resetera. Fantastic. Great job, demigod

the whole controversy around that game proved that to me

at first, when it exploded, you saw people defending them

then they came out with a statement saying they would try to do better. instantly this board was full of people saying "fuck them for listening to SJWs". which is funny cos they didn't actually do anything. but because they landed on the wrong side of the tribal wars they were instantly the enemy. except they were the enemy for something they didn't even do! all to own some imaginary SJWs they appeased that didn't exist. it was hilarious.

i dont blame Dark for not wanting to bother. personally if i worked in the industry i would have zero contact with gaming forums online. there are too many trolls and idiots like demigod, it is a giant waste of time.

 

[cryptoadam]

So what did the developer do that was so bigoted?

 

[teezzy]

This reminds me, I never did get around to giving Kingdom Come Deliverance a proper go.

Fairly certain that game was bashed for having controversial devs also

So sick of this SJW horse shit - "how dare you not add a warning to your vid and just judge it by the game's technical merits alone!"

People are weird

 

[Saber]

"But dude, we're not harassing!1! We're discussing the games!1! Btw, if you like this game you're bigots/homophobics!"

Technical Warning for Ion Fury on Xbox One (all consoles?)

It's very disappointing that you continue to signal boost these devs by producing more videos for Ion Fury on Digital Foundry. It makes the statement that you either agree with their views, or that you don't care. And you can't feign ignorance, because you were already called out for it after...

www.resetera.com

Technical Warning for Ion Fury on Xbox One (all consoles?)

I find Dark1x' continued support for this game rather problematic, to the point where I stopped watching his retro series, despite enjoying it in the past.

www.resetera.com

Technical Warning for Ion Fury on Xbox One (all consoles?)

Even if he doesn’t care (I don’t know if he does, I can’t speak for him obviously), why is it so hard to accept for some people? I don’t get it. Why not just stop watching their content/stop following them instead of constantly mention it if you don’t agree with what they do? Is it so hard to...

www.resetera.com

Technical Warning for Ion Fury on Xbox One (all consoles?)

If you were not aware of it (sometimes things that blow up here feel like a bigger deal than they are) and clearly don't agree with their opinions, I wouldn't beat yourself up about it too much. I realize that I said you "can't feign ignorance" about it because you were called out in the "top...

www.resetera.com

Defending John(Banned): https://www.resetera.com/threads/te...on-xbox-one-all-consoles.204861/post-34086921

Technical Warning for Ion Fury on Xbox One (all consoles?)

I find those comments about separating the art from the artist so f*****g insulting for the people that were targeted by the devs stupid comments. They scream "I'm not affected so I don't care". I know in any product or service someone down the line is crooked but once you are aware of it...

www.resetera.com

Defending John(Banned) : https://www.resetera.com/threads/te...on-xbox-one-all-consoles.204861/post-34090494

Technical Warning for Ion Fury on Xbox One (all consoles?)

I watched DF a lot and yeah a disclaimer would be great in the future, I won't be watching the video and definitely not supporting the game. I think it's fair and definitely not derailing, there's a lot of people, like me, who wouldn't like to support devs with bigoted views. Attacking John was...

www.resetera.com

Telling the truth(Banned): https://www.resetera.com/threads/te...on-xbox-one-all-consoles.204861/post-34109145

Technical Warning for Ion Fury on Xbox One (all consoles?)

Ion Fury was a game I was really looking forward to - in part because of the tech - until it turned out the devs hated me and people like me, and had no problem displaying this in their game. You can't argue that you should separate the art from the artist when the art itself is part of the...

www.resetera.com

Technical Warning for Ion Fury on Xbox One (all consoles?)

Welp the video is up. I'm kinda disappointed nothing at all was brought up about this. I totally understand Darks enthusiasm for this game and old school FPS games, but i hope now that he is aware he will take this into consideration when covering any of their future games. Bigotry like this...

www.resetera.com

Digital Foundry - Ion Fury - Every Console Tested - How An Ancient Engine Stresses Current-Gen CPUs

Dark1x You really only need to do this. On youtube you can even add notifications without changing the video, just add a notification in the first 10 seconds to read the description. It really shouldn't be a hard process. We know, from your own reactions, you are totally against the hatred the...

www.resetera.com

Digital Foundry - Ion Fury - Every Console Tested - How An Ancient Engine Stresses Current-Gen CPUs

The video has over 100k views and still no disclaimer or anything. Whoever is in charge, be it Eurogamer, DF or John in specific really needs to get this crap together. Specially because we know the entire DF team are GREAT GUYS who don't believe or support any of the homophobic content in this...

www.resetera.com

John finally leaves Resetera : https://www.resetera.com/threads/di...tresses-current-gen-cpus.206310/post-34349847

2 : https://www.resetera.com/threads/di...tresses-current-gen-cpus.206310/post-34355955

"John is not the victim": https://www.resetera.com/threads/di...tresses-current-gen-cpus.206310/post-34355829

 

[JareBear: Remastered]

I didn't realize there was "history" with Ion Fury devs until the DF console port breakdown video over the weekend, saw it mentioned in that thread. Based on what I read, I am not surprised that Re went crazy. Figured it was just a matter of time before they ran off the DF guys.

 

[iconmaster]

Pot, kettle, black in our case.

 

[12Goblins]

Rhetoric rationalizing bigotry... what in the fuck

 

[yeehaw]

So we’re not much better than, Resetera. Fantastic. Great job, demigod

Jesus. demigod what is your fucking issue

 

[Darth]

I didn't realize there was "history" with Ion Fury devs until the DF console port breakdown video over the weekend, saw it mentioned in that thread. Based on what I read, I am not surprised that Re went crazy. Figured it was just a matter of time before they ran off the DF guys.

Era's list of trigger words and people is far greater than Homeland Security and OFAC.

 

[Thaedolus]

So what did the developer do that was so bigoted?

As far as I remember:

-one of the developers expressed reservation about transitioning young children, or using hormone blockers too young (something like that) in a discord server and the chat leaked
-there was an item in the game called “UGAY” which I guess was a goof on the name of a lotion product?
-in some part of the game inaccessible without cheats, there was something labeled “fagbag” or close to that. There’s some dispute about what that could actually be referring to in another country though.

So because of this the developers have been labeled transphobic and homophobic and discussing the game is taboo.

 

[Coolwhhip]

Digital Foundry like many others thought it was a gaming forum. But it's a hateful cesspool of some of the most miserable people this planet has to offer.

If Evilore was alive to see this he would be laughing.

 

[cryptoadam]

As far as I remember:

-one of the developers expressed reservation about transitioning young children, or using hormone blockers too young (something like that) in a discord server and the chat leaked
-there was an item in the game called “UGAY” which I guess was a goof on the name of a lotion product?
-in some part of the game inaccessible without cheats, there was something labeled “fagbag” or close to that. There’s some dispute about what that could actually be referring to in another country though.

So because of this the developers have been labeled transphobic and homophobic and discussing the game is taboo.

So basically nothing and nothing that has to do with a tech review of a game.

 

[Punished Miku]

Pot, kettle, black in our case.

Not really. Some people were shitty to him on here, but it wasnt systemic failure from the top down enforcing a bias and punishing wrongthink. John's a cool guy in his videos but he seems extremely fragile sometimes. Its probably for the best that he doesnt post anywhere really. But of course I think he'd get a much better response over here.

 

[Arimer]

So basically nothing and nothing that has to do with a tech review of a game.

Exactly, but in crazy land they wanted him to put a disclaimer at the beginning of the their video about how much the devs are bigots and anything less than that means the video creators are bigots by association.

 

[GeorgPrime]

So a little retro inspired game called Ion Fury just released its console ports and DF did a technical review. They’ve been fairly cozy with Resetera and made a thread to promote the video.

Within a few messages, the usual suspects took the thread off topic and began to question the video’s creator why he didn’t admonish the questionable and bigoted content of the game. Instead of veering the thread back on topic, the mods allowed it to continue and even banned members who wanted to get the thread back on the rails.

After 6 or so pages, John Linneman has called it quits from Resetera and it looks like he’s taken his collaborators with him.

This is a major loss for their forum. It’s both disgusting but completely on brand for a forum so far up its own ass it’s eating itself.

The only good thing about resetera... it gathers all those mentally ill left wing psychos and puts them into one place. So you know what to expect of that forum.

Just for the record: Iam not talking about LBGT people. Just the normal people trying to be WOKE as fuck.

Extreme Left is as good as extrem right. Nothing to be proud off.

 

[Thaedolus]

So basically nothing and nothing that has to do with a tech review of a game.

No no, egregious violations of human rights by using a platform to promote bigotry which necessitate the destruction of anyone tangentially related to this game

 

[Can't decide]

Just going through that Reset thread again and the lack of introspection is mindboggling. One of my favorite quotes has to be "Says a lot about how terrible the internet is outside of these forums"

Digital Foundry - Ion Fury - Every Console Tested - How An Ancient Engine Stresses Current-Gen CPUs

The fact that this is a legitimate concern is troubling and says a lot about how terrible the internet is outside these forums. The idiots you are referencing claim to want "freedom of speech", yet harass people to the point of submission. Not just with "criticism" but also with personal...

www.resetera.com

 

[neobiz]

I hope the word toxic is thrown about

 

[kiunchbb]

"John is doing well and just taking the necessary steps away from here that is for the best. I wouldn't expect either him or I to post anything here related to future DF Retro projects we do together and the like however since I will also be stepping away since I haven't really been enjoying reading forums much in the last few years and stuff like this just cements that it's better to focus on work and family."

I really like this response from DF, professional, give enough hints on the reason why they are leaving, but didn't destory any bridges for the future. They are smart people, I am sure they'll do well with or without that forum.

 

[nush]

blame Dark for not wanting to bother. personally if i worked in the industry i would have zero contact with gaming forums online. there are too many trolls and idiots like demigod, it is a giant waste of time.

I learned that lesson early on, first they love you and are just fans. Then if the company you work for does something they don't like you'll be the target of the anger. That and at the time Kotaku were making news stories out of forum posts if they knew the person worked for a particular gaming company and they found a "scoop".

So I had to go dark, shame really as I know things that are true that get dismissed becuse a journalist did not write an article about it. Most of the time gaming journalists are only told what they need to promote. Not going to out myself just to prove I'm not making shit up.

 

[Coolwhhip]

I learned that lesson early on, first they love you and are just fans. Then if the company you work for does something they don't like you'll be the target of the anger. That and at the time Kotaku were making news stories out of forum posts if they knew the person worked for a particular gaming company and they found a "scoop".

So I had to go dark, shame really as I know things that are true that get dismissed becuse a journalist did not write an article about it. Most of the time gaming journalists are only told what they need to promote. Not going to out myself just to prove I'm not making shit up.

Hi Reggie.

 

[GeorgPrime]

Just going through that Reset thread again and the lack of introspection is mindboggling. "Says a lot about how terrible the internet is outside of these forums"

Digital Foundry - Ion Fury - Every Console Tested - How An Ancient Engine Stresses Current-Gen CPUs

The fact that this is a legitimate concern is troubling and says a lot about how terrible the internet is outside these forums. The idiots you are referencing claim to want "freedom of speech", yet harass people to the point of submission. Not just with "criticism" but also with personal...

www.resetera.com

rofl.

"The fact that this is a legitimate concern is troubling and says a lot about how terrible the internet is outside these forums"

I wouldnt call Resetera a good and sane place in the internet...

I know a lot of people who are out of touch with reality and i guess they all would fit very well into Resetera.

One (ex)-friend of mine thought he was entitled to everything but was just a lazy ass never doing anything at all but claimed that he is the best in everything and knows everything better. And everytime something went wrong he blamed other people.

 

[Coolwhhip]

Haha that's like sitting in a burning building and saying "At least we're safe from forest fires here."

 

[Saber]

Not really. Some people were shitty to him on here, but it wasnt systemic failure from the top down enforcing a bias and punishing wrongthink. John's a cool guy in his videos but he seems extremely fragile sometimes. Its probably for the best that he doesnt post anywhere really. But of course I think he'd get a much better response over here.

Yeah.

I'm not here to say we are worse than Era. This gaf member was a bitch and has a disgusting attitude against John and it was wise of him to leave this place. It won't stop my brother and members here to support and post DF cool videos.

But this? Resetera bullying him, making him sound like a homphobic guy for liking a game and demand him to do things to his videos in order for them to not be against. Thats worst than scum.

Its probably for the best John to leave forums altogether. Keep doing what he is doing the best, making cool videos(I for one love his DF Retros). But what Resetera did for him? All the harassment followed by banned members only trying to defend him? Unless theres something wrong with peoples head, this is not comparable with 1 dumbshit from Gaf.

 

[haxan7]

I never should have clicked any of those Ree links. Fuck those retards.

faith in humanity -1000

 

[nush]

If Evilore was alive to see this he would be laughing.

If Matrix was here, he'd laugh too.

 

[MrA]

those who fail to sufficiently self flagellate are not penitent enough and must be tried for heresy

 

[Lanrutcon]

The people on era spend more time looking for things to get outraged by than playing games.

Devs who think there's anything to gain by interacting with that community are either clueless, or desperate.

You'd get a shitload more return on your invested time by fostering a Reddit community.

 

[TaySan]

D dark10x is a great guy and i hope he does come back. My criticisms are not of Dark solely, but DF and Eurogamer as a whole and i hope he understands that and not take it personally.

 

[haxan7]

I hope everyone flees that site and its lunacy. The more people like D dark10x they scare off, the better. Why interact with people who want to cancel you?

 

[HellforLeather]

Skimming through the REEEEEEEE thread is wild. Maybe its just because its been a while since I've been there but they are handing out bans for even less and less controversial shit.

Any attempt at saying that DF only evaluates the technical aspects of a game and not the politics seems to be an insta-ban. Reason: equating HATE SPEECH to political views. Duration pending.

 

[Coolwhhip]

D dark10x is a great guy and i hope he does come back. My criticisms are not of Dark solely, but DF and Eurogamer as a whole and i hope he understands that and not take it personally.

Get over yourself. Bitching at random youtube channels because hateera told you to is completely pointless. Spend your day on something useful.

 

[-Arcadia-]

D dark10x is a great guy and i hope he does come back. My criticisms are not of Dark solely, but DF and Eurogamer as a whole and i hope he understands that and not take it personally.

As you think Resetera is a “great forum”, please elaborate on what your criticisms are, and whether they match the bullshit thought control and hypersensitivity-to-the-point-of-nonsense that Reset is trying to put forward here.

 

[iconmaster]

D dark10x is a great guy and i hope he does come back. My criticisms are not of Dark solely, but DF and Eurogamer as a whole and i hope he understands that and not take it personally.

Since you drew attention to your "criticisms," I'm taking the liberty of posting them.

Transphobia, alt-right, bigotry. It's like playing SJW bingo!

Let me be absolutely clear: you are cancel culture. Couching your think-policing with "I know Dark's a great guy and will do what I want" doesn't change your intent.

 

[nush]

Since you drew attention to your "criticisms," I'm taking the liberty of posting them.

He just parrots what everyone else does, quite often word for word of a post just a few above his and somehow thinks that's his own opinion. A true and honest NPC.

 

[Coolwhhip]

He's just a victim of the cult. Take the red pil little man.