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Social Community Game Dev Riot Games Will Record Valorant Voice Comms To Catch Racists

GymWolf

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My response


 
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CloudNull

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If I played a game that was going to record our chat I would stop playing. Not because anything I say or do is wrong or but because I don't think you should be spying on people in the name of "helping the community"
Well looks like you better not play games online with Microsoft or Sony. They both do the same thing.
 

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Well looks like you better not play games online with Microsoft or Sony. They both do the same thing.
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How much is China paying you? We know we're already spied on, doesn't mean we need more of it.
 

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How much is China paying you? We know we're already spied on, doesn't mean we need more of it.
Come on man do better. I have already explained that China has better means to spy on you and there is a difference of being a subsidiary of a company and full fledged China asset. My political post before the forum was nuked has always been 100% against the CCP so you are barking up the wrong tree.
Do they record everything? I just thought it was in private chats they recorded?
No it is my understanding they do not record everything, only people that get reported. Same as what Riot is trying to do which is stated in the article. Everyone likes to make Riot the boogey man just because they are owned by Tencent but they never mention how Tencent and the CCP have been having issues. Maybe its all a conspiracy theory to save face..... I am sure that is what it is lol.
 

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No it is my understanding they do not record everything, only people that get reported. Same as what Riot is trying to do which is stated in the article. Everyone likes to make Riot the boogey man just because they are owned by Tencent but they never mention how Tencent and the CCP have been having issues. Maybe its all a conspiracy theory to save face..... I am sure that is what it is lol.
If it is only the reported people then I think that is reasonable. The FBI/COA records every phone convo we have now anyway.
 
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Phase

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Come on man do better. I have already explained that China has better means to spy on you and there is a difference of being a subsidiary of a company and full fledged China asset. My political post before the forum was nuked has always been 100% against the CCP so you are barking up the wrong tree.

No it is my understanding they do not record everything, only people that get reported. Same as what Riot is trying to do which is stated in the article. Everyone likes to make Riot the boogey man just because they are owned by Tencent but they never mention how Tencent and the CCP have been having issues. Maybe its all a conspiracy theory to save face..... I am sure that is what it is lol.
The thing you're having trouble understanding is censorship of any kind is a negative. It only contributes to the degradation of free thought and expression, and only gets worse over time.
 
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sackings

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this will get cancelled after they find that non-whites are the ones flinging around the most racist epithets.
 
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Optimus Lime

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Stop playing the victim. You talked shit so I gave it back which riot is okay with. No one gets banned for that.
How am I playing the victim? I couldn't care less what you say. You are nothing to me. That's the entire point. You can tell me to suck your dick all you like, and it doesn't bother me one iota, because you're another screaming imbecile on the internet crying out for my attention.

The problem, which is obvious to everybody but you, is that it is rank hypocrisy to bleat about the need for state-sponsored censorship of Valorant's voice chat due to 'toxicity', while simultaneously telling people with whom you disagree on the internet to 'suck your dick'. It's a very obvious hypocrisy that you seem, for pretty obvious reasons, to be blind to. Just admit that you fucked up, you engaged in the EXACT behaviour that you claim requires a corrective by Riot, and move on. Everyone seems to be able to see that except you.

Let me break it down for you.

You're supporting mass surveillance because you're a hypocritical coward. I notice that you didn't respond to my question regarding Facebook or Google. Why is that? Since you're clearly in favour of corporate spying, why don't you tell the rest of GAF that you think that Facebook and Google are doing a great job in their struggle against white supremacy and toxicity?

Surprisingly, the most laughable thing in your little rant isn't the pitiful display of hypocrisy. It's this:

Riot has already laid great ground work for a friendly less toxic community and I trust them in their next step to take it further. How hard is this to grasp? Shit talking about in game or friendly banter is fine but straight racist shit deserves to be banned.
That is fucking superb. You 'trust' a faceless, cold-blooded corporation which is in bed with the murderous Communist regime?

If I looked up 'useful idiot', it would have a photo of your name next to the term.
 

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How am I playing the victim? I couldn't care less what you say. You are nothing to me. That's the entire point. You can tell me to suck your dick all you like, and it doesn't bother me one iota, because you're another screaming imbecile on the internet crying out for my attention.

The problem, which is obvious to everybody but you, is that it is rank hypocrisy to bleat about the need for state-sponsored censorship of Valorant's voice chat due to 'toxicity', while simultaneously telling people with whom you disagree on the internet to 'suck your dick'. It's a very obvious hypocrisy that you seem, for pretty obvious reasons, to be blind to. Just admit that you fucked up, you engaged in the EXACT behaviour that you claim requires a corrective by Riot, and move on. Everyone seems to be able to see that except you.

Let me break it down for you.

You're supporting mass surveillance because you're a hypocritical coward. I notice that you didn't respond to my question regarding Facebook or Google. Why is that? Since you're clearly in favour of corporate spying, why don't you tell the rest of GAF that you think that Facebook and Google are doing a great job in their struggle against white supremacy and toxicity?

Surprisingly, the most laughable thing in your little rant isn't the pitiful display of hypocrisy. It's this:


That is fucking superb. You 'trust' a faceless, cold-blooded corporation which is in bed with the murderous Communist regime?

If I looked up 'useful idiot', it would have a photo of your name next to the term.
If you can’t see the difference between racism and friendly shit talking online then I don’t know what to tell you. Maybe do some self reflection.

I don’t use google I use duck duck go. I dislike Facebook but love their Oculus division. I have no idea why any of this is relevant.

And yes I trust riot as much as you can trust a company because competitive shooters live and die by the community. Their past record since the game released has been nothing but love for the community they are building.

This is a waste of my time and I’m done responding. You do your thing thinking China is the boogey man listing to your in game coms about the bomb being planted on B site and I’ll do my thing.
 

Optimus Lime

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If you can’t see the difference between racism and friendly shit talking online then I don’t know what to tell you. Maybe do some self reflection.

I don’t use google I use duck duck go. I dislike Facebook but love their Oculus division. I have no idea why any of this is relevant.

And yes I trust riot as much as you can trust a company because competitive shooters live and die by the community. Their past record since the game released has been nothing but love for the community they are building.

This is a waste of my time and I’m done responding. You do your thing thinking China is the boogey man listing to your in game coms about the bomb being planted on B site and I’ll do my thing.
So, your argument is that 'toxic behaviour' involves 'racism' - and that's it.

And you also seem to be arguing that telling strangers on the internet to 'suck your dick' is 'friendly shit talking'.

Would you tell women on the internet to 'suck your dick' if they disagreed with you, or do you reserve that for people that you believe to be male?

The fact that you can't see why it's relevant to compare the surveillance being proposed by Riot to the surveillance being carried out by other corporations - and the tensions that their actions have created - speaks volumes for your actual knowledge on the topic.

You're a typical censorious hypocrite. Anything that offends you is 'toxic', but your own behaviour is magically exempt from the same scrutiny and surveillance because when YOU do it, it's just 'friendly shit talking'.

You're right. It's a waste of your time. You're out of your depth here, and you should have quit opening your mouth roughly 4 posts ago.
 

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If I played a game that was going to record our chat I would stop playing. Not because anything I say or do is wrong or but because I don't think you should be spying on people in the name of "helping the community"
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