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ROG ALLY has 8TF performance in boost mode. Pricing aiming under $1000. Launches may 11 with 3 months of gamepass
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DenchDeckard
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Ooh, looks like I was on the money......
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As someone who for some reason bought a Ayaneo Air, I can tell you without a doubt that Windows on a handheld is an AWFUL experience, and any alternative to that would be better.
kvltus lvlzvs
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Somewhere between the price of a steam deck and 999.99 I stop caring about it being handheld. I'd rather just get a dedicated gaming desktop
OverHeat
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Day 0!!!
graywolf323
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has there been anything official for the price? $700 seems like a crazy good deal and given it launches in ~2 weeks and all Asus has said is it would be ”below $1k” I feel like if they knew they were going to be $700 that they would have just said that instead?
if it’s not though they better nip this in the bud quickly or when they announce the real price that’s higher a lot of people are going to be even more disappointed because they got hyped for a fake price
if it’s not though they better nip this in the bud quickly or when they announce the real price that’s higher a lot of people are going to be even more disappointed because they got hyped for a fake price
Davevil
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Why do you want this shit OS on it?
DenchDeckard
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It's 699...
LiquidMetal14
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Let me tell you, for whatever jank or whatever opinion that you stated, the steam deck is the best handheld I've ever used given everything that it does. Tell me one that has the kind of support and usability that makes it even easy for a casual to get into as easy as the steam day. Mind you I don't disagree and I'm pretty excited about this thing given the price. I would even maybe consider selling my steam bag for this thing pending reliability and quality issues.
But let's not be too quick and haste to completely go to the deep end criticizing valve for putting out a really good piece of hardware with a compatibility layer that just works for the most part. And I repeat again, for the casual person they might not want to mess with desktop mode and things like that to further enhance the experience and things like emulation. But for those just want to turn it on and run it like a console or dedicated handheld, this thing is unbeatable.
jshackles
Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the capability to make the world's first enhanced store. Steam will be that store. Better than it was before.
The marketing for this thing has been a disaster from day one (day one being fucking April fools day, when they advertised it alongside their contact lenses prank from last year). It's like they're flying by the seat of their pants.
graywolf323
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yes I’m aware that’s what the leak from that twitter user Snoopy Tech claims which then the Verge and others have since reported on but why are people acting like that’s confirmed and not just a rumor? what kind of history does this Snoopy Tech have for previous leaks being correct?
agreed, I don’t understand what Asus is doing here at all marketing wise but if that $700 price is in fact accurate I’m intrigued
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DenchDeckard
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I said it yesterday before the twitter account...I am no insider but I have foreseen it!
Trust me.
supernova8
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I mean here we are talking about it, and not the Steam Deck or the Aya Neo or GPD Win etc etc so I'd say their marketing is pretty spot on.
On the rumored $699 price, I don't recall ASUS ever being generous with pricing so if it really is 699, perhaps AMD is partially subsidizing it and/or gave ASUS a good deal on the chips in return for ASUS committing to doing a lot more AMD-based laptops or something? It's not like AMD cares who "wins" the gaming handheld war. Wouldn't be surprised if it's a long-term play to gradually entice Nintendo over to team red.
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graywolf323
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I’ll gift you a game of your choice from my Humble Bundle collection of keys I either didn’t want or already had if you end up being right
(and I have a lot 
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BlackTron
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This is why Switch has this area cornered for me. I guess people are into it but I find full on AAA/3D games designed for a TV/monitor on that little screen is usually crappy. If the game is a good fit for the screen size/form factor chances are the Switch could run it anyway. Yeah I know PC/Switch software are worlds apart but it's more than sufficient for just having something to fall back on when the need for a "game boy" arises. I'd rather get a laptop at $1k
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ChoosableOne
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This is unbelievable, wow. I assume it supports keyboard and mouse and you can plug it to a tv/monitor, if so I will think about buying one instead of a laptop.
DenchDeckard
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Oh, this is amazing thank you so muchI’ll gift you a game of your choice from my Humble Bundle collection of keys I either didn’t want or already had if you end up being right
I am feeling confident .Are you in the UK at all? if you are in the UK, do you like Curry's?
It is literally a windows 11 PC in your hand, it supports all accessories a PC will support and even supports Asus external GPU's in their propriety hardware so you can even boost your graphics to your monitor if you wanted to invest in that option. It has thunderbolt out too so you can use a dock to run on your TV.
As someone who’s installed Windows on a partition on my Steamdeck, it’s perfectly fine, especially if you’re just gaming on it and spend all your time inside Steam etc.
Asus Armor Crate software overlay seems to be a nice way to make the interface really controller friendly.
M1chl
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That would be incredibly cheap for its power.
DenchDeckard
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The amount of cope in this thread from Deckboys.
I have a steam deck and I can't wait to see the benchmarks on this thing...If I can have a one stop solution for my steam and game pass and in fact all launches....Buzzing!!
BennyBlanco
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Shifty1897
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ThisIsMyDog
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If this thing has 8TF RDNA3 then these performance results are oddly several times too low... something shady here
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
All I see is titties and people saying $1000 is too much
Typical marketing bs dont be surpised if theres a * next to 8tflops. Its the inflated rdna3 tflops which gives the impression its much more powerful than rdna2 equivilants even series s etc, then theres heat throttling which would ensure it can almost never output that peak ingame and finally the bandwidth simply isn't there in the handheld form to keep up not even close.
If this thing has 8TF RDNA3 then these performance results are oddly several times too low... something shady here
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StereoVsn
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Realistically I think we can expect like 15-20% uplift at same TDP over the Deck and quite a bit more at say 20w.
Most folks wouldn't be running this thing with over 20w (30-40%?) unless docked since it would kill battery life.
graywolf323
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unfortunately not, I’m in Virginia over in the USAOh, this is amazing thank you so much
Are you in the UK at all? if you are in the UK, do you like Curry's?
Yeah the benchmarks pretty much killed most of the hype, its hardly a massive leap from the deck.
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jshackles
Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the capability to make the world's first enhanced store. Steam will be that store. Better than it was before.
That seems reasonable, as long as you're playing something that isn't very demanding. If you're expecting something like this to play Elden Ring for 4 hours at 1080p / 60fps, you're going to be disappointed. At least for now.
Mr Hyde
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I mostly play indies and AA games, but of course there is the occasional AAA game too. Playing Elden Ring on the go would be awesome, but 60 fps maybe is stretching it too far. Would battery life improve drastically if go 30 fps? For portable play I can live with 30.
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jshackles
Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the capability to make the world's first enhanced store. Steam will be that store. Better than it was before.
For comparison’s sake, the Steam Deck can play Doom 3 BFG Edition for 5 hours at 1280x800, 60fps before running out of juice. Given the Ally's specs it's reasonable to assume that it could do 1080p / 60fps for at least the same amount of playtime, maybe longer (depending on a TON of different factors, like how much battery life this thing actually has in practice, how it is configured to perform when unplugged, etc...)
So - while it may be capable of 8TF (lol) and could probably play something like Elden Ring at 1080p/60fps, it may only be able to do so for about 30-40 minutes tops. Cutting the framerate in half to 30 would theoretically double that time (though in reality, not really) so you might be able to get an hour and a half, maybe two hours out of it? Steam Deck can play it for about 2 hours, but that's at 30fps and 800p.
Anyway, this is all very crystal ball at this point until we have confirmed specs and the hands on reviews out there now all say that the battery hardware they received isn't final and that they're not allowed to comment on it. Again lol.
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Mr Hyde
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It's kinda worrisome that they aren't allowed to speak on the battery. It doesn't instill confidence regarding how much juice this thing actually has.
I don't know what type of chipset is inside, but 8TF could be 2100cores at 1.8ghz in boost mode. I don't know if there is a mobile chipset with all that cores though.
Baki
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It’s probably a controlled leak.
Its typical marketing bullshit, even if by a miracle it actually is equivalent to 8tflops of rdna2 it would be hilariously unbalanced since its bandwidth would choke it. Its not even close to series S levels it runs farcy6 at low settings at 720p upscaled with frs....if it actually performed even close to series s it would be an actual market shaker.
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Dural
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The screen alone makes it a massive leap, everything else is gravy.
Zathalus
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It's 8 TF of RDNA3, so equal to (roughly) 4.4 TF of RDNA2. You would think it would perform better then a Series S, but alas it is hampered by the extremally low memory bandwidth of around 120GB/s. Honestly they should have doubled the memory channels to 8x for almost 250GB/s bandwidth. Sure cost would have gone up but it certainly would be worth it from a performance standpoint.
Lysandros
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Yeah, even XSS is a far reach apparently, it makes sense with the power and bandwidth constraints.
alucard0712_rus
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Now I want this instead of a laptop. $700 is good for the specs!
Personally I'd much prefer 60Hz 720p OLED. 120fps on handheld is the same as 2K display - waste of resources (or battery life).
Personally I'd much prefer 60Hz 720p OLED. 120fps on handheld is the same as 2K display - waste of resources (or battery life).
Redneckerz
Those long posts don't cover that red neck boy
I like how most media think this 8.6 TF makes it close to PS5/XSX.
The TF counts for those machines is based on FP32 workloads. This is, without a doubt, FP16.
The TF counts for those machines is based on FP32 workloads. This is, without a doubt, FP16.
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