BrokenFiction
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Nope, I'm with you. They were Force-expert sword wielders. Of course it was gonna get fancy.
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Rogue One Reviews & Impressions (Spoiler Tags Required)
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Nope, I'm with you. They were Force-expert sword wielders. Of course it was gonna get fancy.
molnizzle
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It could have made sense thematically but it just looked ridiculous. The final duels in RotS and AotC were particularly stupid looking. TPM did a much better job there. That looked like Jedi in their prime. Anakin vs. Obi-Wan looked 100% choreographed. Zero impact.
PeskyToaster
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AotC is a chore but RotS is fine. All hail Ian McDiarmid.
jack_package_200
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The flashy-ness of the lightsaber fights weren't my problem with the prequel lightsaber fights.
Its was the lack of any emotional weight and the they were horribly paced.
Its was the lack of any emotional weight and the they were horribly paced.
Didn't realize reviews were visual now
You are crazy!!!=O
Jedi did two things extremely well.
It is one of the few series that actually delivered the final battle. The Space Battle with Luke on looking is probably the best conclusion we've got.
Shame about where ever the hell Lela and Han on were again.
brandonh83
Banned
No. They're awesome. The style makes sense considering who's fighting, the powers they have (especially of foresight), etc.
They're exactly what I wanted out of the prequel fights. The idea of Jedi/Sith in their prime in lightsaber duels was always fascinating to me as a kid, and I feel like I got that.
He's probably already gone, but...
Remember me Bobby? I'm not particularly memorable, but we had a few Star Wars and Doctor Who (even Ghostbusters) discussions in our time. I always enjoyed our talks, and we agreed on a lot of things, but I've wanted to point out that I was right about the Rogue One opening titles (I claimed they would probably ditch the opening crawl, you thought they would never do that).
I'm not a humble man. I'm not above holding on to months-old arguments just to celebrate my victory when I'm right (or forgetting about it when I turn out to be wrong). You're a guy who knows a lot of the secret background workings of this industry, and I respect that. Makes me feel even better about being right all those months ago. Doesn't happen often.
Yes, I'm shamelessly rubbing a nonsensical semi-victory in your face.
Remember me Bobby? I'm not particularly memorable, but we had a few Star Wars and Doctor Who (even Ghostbusters) discussions in our time. I always enjoyed our talks, and we agreed on a lot of things, but I've wanted to point out that I was right about the Rogue One opening titles (I claimed they would probably ditch the opening crawl, you thought they would never do that).
I'm not a humble man. I'm not above holding on to months-old arguments just to celebrate my victory when I'm right (or forgetting about it when I turn out to be wrong). You're a guy who knows a lot of the secret background workings of this industry, and I respect that. Makes me feel even better about being right all those months ago. Doesn't happen often.
Yes, I'm shamelessly rubbing a nonsensical semi-victory in your face.
I miss you buddy 
. Why Twitter?
. Why Twitter? 
Bobby Roberts
Banned
No. I saw this. You were right, and I was wrong. They did what I thought they didn't need to do, and the movie works just fine the way it is. It was a good choice, and I liked it.
And I remember you Boem. You're almost always good reading.
It's impressive choreography, and I get what they were going for, but it looks stupid IMO. It feels so over the top where they're spinning their swords around a thousand times rather than actually swinging at each other. It lacks grit.
Like one of my favorite moments in Star Wars is Luke losing it on Vader and just wildly swinging for the fences with his lightsaber. Filled with rage, no fineness, kinda like what happens when most people get in a fight in their life!
brandonh83
Banned
Twitter has desensitized me giving a shit about Bobby being here.
Jellycrackers
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Yes. That's why that one and TFA will probably always be my favorite lightsaber duels.
That would suck!!!78% now, below ROTS
Dusktildawn48
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Someone needs to post the gif of Anakin and obi wan swinging their sabers over and over
brandonh83
Banned
It's about the context, though. That made sense for that. The fights in the prequels made sense in their own context. But I get preferring one thing to the other. I think there's a place for different things though.
I also don't think they just swung their sabers around mindlessly, some of it was for show/intimidation, which also makes sense. Before someone quotes with that god damn part in Revenge of the Sith, it was a 2-second bit where they were testing one another's foresight, and when they clash it symbolically represented Anakin and Obi-Wan as equals. It's amusing as fuck what kind of a big deal people turn that into. I thought of it as some kind of Force-roulette, in a sense.
It is. It really is.
demosthenes
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I don't think the Jedi are in their prime in Revenge of the Sith. Their hubris blinds them and leads to their destruction. Maybe they were at their highest numbers but certainly not what I'd call their 'prime' as evidenced by them nearly being wiped out.
brandonh83
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Yep. I'm just saying that during the prequels there were many Jedi, young, skilled, and could be flashy during fights.
BrokenFiction
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But what would that have to do with the skills they have? Dooku was one of the greatest swordsman of all time at the end of the Jedi era.
brandonh83
Banned
I'd break legs to get a movie set when Dooku was younger. Holy shit that'd be cool. Still one of my favorite characters in SW and one of the best things about the prequels.
Chaw's review is up:
http://www.filmfreakcentral.net/ffc/2016/12/rogue-one.html#more
3.5 stars out of 4
http://www.filmfreakcentral.net/ffc/2016/12/rogue-one.html#more
3.5 stars out of 4
Again, I get what they were going for and the stunt people/choreographers did an amazing job. That's kinda part of the problem for me personally though, it looking like dancing, you can tell it was practiced for probably hundreds of hours, it looks really fake. Obi-wan(or was it Anakin?) even does a WWE-style clothesline at one point haha.
I'm also not one of those people that's going to defend the Vader vs Obi-wan fight in ANH either, for the record. That was pretty bad too but for different reasons.
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
Bobby's back
Exactly this. They can be flashy all they want, but I want to see them actually fight as in trying to kill each other like in the OT. Instead we get this, plus the Episode 6 Luke vs Vader fight is still more intense than the prequel lightsaber fights for various reasons.
The Hermit
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Its crazy, almost something straight out of Black Mirror ( which would of course show the very worst and most vile aspect of that)
I want to see it how realistic it is though before commenting more about that
brandonh83
Banned
For me that was the beauty of it, I guess it's just something I appreciate and it's how I imagined they'd look. Force-sensitive monks fighting with lightsabers would be elegant, I think, in nature.
But-- that's not to say I don't get your viewpoint!
Oh I thought we were talking prime mentally.
I mean, yeah it makes sense for the prequel fights to be flashy since they're all master Jedi but it's all still so boring. The lightsaber fights outside TPM's final battle have no tension at all.
George Oscar Bluth II
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Well, do you remember me, Bobby? When I killed Bronson Lee I talked JUST... LIKE... THIS!
Latvian Hitman
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The big duel in TPM was flashy, fun and well blocked, but that was mainly because of the talents of Ray Park. Every other duel in the prequels looked goofy and overdone.
Starsunder
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It's looking good! Honestly I think I'm most excited for the land battles. Godzilla 2014 wasn't a great film but the scale of the monster battles was AWESOME. I hope Edward's sense of scale can translate well to big warfare scenes well. (sounds like it does anyway)
Haloid1177
Banned
Brandon no you were always a good dude.
Yeah RotS was a great SW movie. Watched the whole saga with a bunch of new comers (5 of them) they all loved RoTS the most. Uproar about these are only on the net for me.
High five. Much rather watch those then the clumsy aimless mad man swinging of the OT. Jedi had emotion though.
High five. Much rather watch those then the clumsy aimless mad man swinging of the OT. Jedi had emotion though.
Jesus. This film has a 7.5 average review score on RT (not talking about percentage of fresh/rotten). That's really high..
Seriously. I've been dreaming of EP8 for.. a long time. Long time.
Seriously. I've been dreaming of EP8 for.. a long time. Long time.
Notable step up from TRON: Legacy.
If I didn't know
that the actor was dead
During the film
my mind was going back and forth between "did they really managed to pull that off?" and "was that a look-alike?"
Didn't confirm it until the credits rolled.
But dat final shot doe.
OricWindstar
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I was hoping a Star Wars movie would bring Bobby back. And it's nice to hear that it's probably a good one.
Trigonometrize.
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Are you basing your love for him off of Clone Wars or something? Because I fail to see what's cool about him or even what his character is, especially with Christopher Lee gone.
brandonh83
Banned
What does Lee being gone have anything to do with the ability to like a character that the late actor played? I'd imagine he'd be happy to know that people liked his work.
To answer your question, many things. His look, his saber, the gray area his character was in, his elegance, and presence in general.
The Hermit
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Oh man
I heard a lot of this
I wasn't considering watching this on the theater because of TFA, but I might give a chance later.
BrokenFiction
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Up to 80-20 now.
WadiumArcadium
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I love Christopher Lee but I always found Dooku pretty bland, even in The Clone Wars.
Small tidbits here and there. I pray to god it stays that way. Nothing worse than the fucks that leaked TFA.
brandonh83
Banned
One of the most exciting things about Rogue One finally releasing is that those locks are about to come off.
I'm staying spoiler-free for VIII, like I did with VII. That really paid off. I'm just eager for the subtitle and a teaser.
He had a lot more leaks for Episode 7 in the same time frame. We know nothing about 8. Hell we knew nothing of Rogue One. Lucas film locked down after Episode 7
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