GymWolf
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Where the hell do you even saw a 3080 12 gb for 800 euros?
The best i can find is like 1100 euros...
Also, how many chances do we have of an actual reveal and release in august for the 4000 series??
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RTX 4000 could release in July or August
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The best i can find is like 1100 euros...
Also, how many chances do we have of an actual reveal and release in august for the 4000 series??
They are posted regularly on MyDealz, this one was from last friday: https://www.mydealz.de/deals/gigaby...ming-oc-12g-12gb-gddr6x-2x-hdmi-3x-dp-2016416
supernova8
Banned
I imagine they (retailers, AIBs, and of course Nvidia) are just trying to hold out as long as possible. That said, the old notion of "once you lower your price it's hard to raise it again" has been proven dead wrong (GPU prices have been all over the places up and down left right diagonal).
Of course Nvidia needs to impress its shareholders but it's only a matter of time before the reality sets in. Most people are no longer interested in spending upwards of $800 on a high-end GPU (especially one about to replaced).
Midn1ght
Member
Best I saw today is 889€ but I’ve seen better in the last couple weeks.
https://azerty.nl/product/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-3080-gaming-oc-12g-lhr-videokaart/4666078
Still far away from the deals you currently see in US.
I think they’ll have a paper launch in September if not October. I can’t see them releasing in July or August, specially when they’re currently trying to lower their ship orders from TSMC.
I’m also waiting for official words from them. If the 4080 ends up in 3080ti/3090 territory with 16/20GB of VRAM for 700€, i might try my luck for one. If not and they ask more than 800, i’ll call it a day and settle for a 3080 12GB hopefully on the cheap (500-550) for the rest of the gen.
KungFucius
King Snowflake
There were only 2 cards that had an actual MSRP of 700, the FE and the low end EVGA, everything else was 30 or 60 more for the lowest end card. The ventus 10GB had an initial MSRP of 760. Regardless 2 years after launch the prices should be lower than the launch price. I am starting to worry that the 4k series will see higher prices just because so many 3k series cards are still available.Yep. Newegg and EVGA have all sorts of card in-stock. For instance, MSI Ventus 3080 12GB for $739 after mail-in rebate on Newegg.
MSI Ventus GeForce RTX 3080 Video Card RTX 3080 VENTUS 3X PLUS 12G OC LHR - Newegg.com
Buy MSI Ventus GeForce RTX 3080 12GB GDDR6X PCI Express 4.0 Video Card RTX 3080 VENTUS 3X PLUS 12G OC LHR with fast shipping and top-rated customer service. Once you know, you Newegg!www.newegg.com
3080 10GB msrp is $699. $739 for the 12GB is probably below whatever the msrp is. They also have 3080 Ti for $929, compared to $1,119 msrp.
Tomi
Member
Less than that for sure, bad decision to buy gpu now
Ellery
Member
Hard to say, but I always expect to get a better price/perf ratio per gen. Maybe the 4080 will be more expensive than the 699$ RTX 3080, but then I expect the 4080 to be % more better than more expensive over the 3080 so that at the end you still have a better price/perf ratio because you get a higher framerate. For example 30% more performance for 799$.
I don't know what you bought, but I think it is a 3080 Ti and I would be surprised if the 40 series doesn't offer something at that price range to easily outclass any 30 card.
I bought a PowerColor Radeon RX 6900 XT 16GB Red Devil Ultimate
My GPU crapped out on me a few weeks ago. Can't really be whithout a PC.
Thank you both for the info.
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winjer
Gold Member
What GPU did you buy.
Even if it is an RTX 3090, it's still a bad idea, when the RTX 4000 are just a few months away.
Chances are you could get an RTX 4090 and get 80% better performance than an 3090.
And leaked benchs in Control with RTX chow more than double the performance.
Rumor: GeForce RTX 4090 66% quicker than RTX 3090 Ti and 82% faster than RTX 3090.
On Twitter, NVIDIA leaker Kopite7kimi shared the first Ada GeForce RTX 4090 benchmark. According to 3DMark Time Spy Extreme Graphics, the card achieves 19,000 points....
www.guru3d.com
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Look at the above post for which one I got.What GPU did you buy.
Even if it is an RTX 3090, it's still a bad idea, when the RTX 4000 are just a few months away.
Chances are you could get an RTX 4090 and get 80% better performance than an 3090.
And leaked benchs in Control with RTX chow more than double the performance.
Rumor: GeForce RTX 4090 66% quicker than RTX 3090 Ti and 82% faster than RTX 3090.
On Twitter, NVIDIA leaker Kopite7kimi shared the first Ada GeForce RTX 4090 benchmark. According to 3DMark Time Spy Extreme Graphics, the card achieves 19,000 points....
winjer
Gold Member
Even worse. The 3090 has a bit better performance in rasterization. And it destoys the 6900 XT in Ray Tracing.
Try to return the GPU on the store and wait a few months.
REDRZA MWS
Member
Ue
Yes, but I’m real world on screen differences, not so much. But my 4090 will shit on the 3090, so I’m glad I waited.
REDRZA MWS
Member
That’s the other thing, may just wait for SX Pro and PS5 pro.
Ellery
Member
Waiting always a decent idea if you can afford to or want to.
But time is also a resource and someone who buys a GPU right now and then uses it a lot will be happier than a person that waits to be an early adopter and then rarely uses it.
When the PS5 Pro comes out I could just wait as well for the PS6.
My advice is always : Buy when you need or wait when you can afford and something good is on the horizon.
MastaKiiLA
Member
In less than a week, I'll finally join the RTX generation... with a RTX 3050 in a laptop. I don't play many games these days, but hope it's powerful enough with the i5-11320H to run The Ascent, FH5, and PS Now. I wanted a card with DLSS, so I can cheat with lower resolutions.
I would have bought something a bit more powerful, but supply chain issues have delays of like 6+ weeks to Thailand. I can't fuck with that kind of wait. The need for work is a bit more urgent.
I would have bought something a bit more powerful, but supply chain issues have delays of like 6+ weeks to Thailand. I can't fuck with that kind of wait. The need for work is a bit more urgent.
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
REDRZA MWS
Member
Understood, but my PC is pretty beefy overall, and I never even use it. At least, with 2 GPU generations past mine, even aside from the power ad advancements, the 4 series (just like the 3 series) will have HDMI 2.1 where I can really make more use of it. (I game on a 77” LG OLED GX).
Also, I’m getting both pro versions of Sony and MS new consoles too. I’m blessed. Retired early and have a decent pension.
kiphalfton
Member
The average Joe probably wouldn't be able to get a graphics card at launch. So add 3-6 more months on top of however long it is until 4000 series comes out, and that will be more accurate. And who's to say that it won't be an even longer wait. Then what?
On paper I would generally agree with "wait", but a person is willing to pay what a person is willing to pay. That's on them. I personally wouldn't buy anything this late in the game and I would just wait, but that's me. Everybody is different.
cinnamonandgravy
Member
yeahhh, me too (77" cx though, not gx).
also waiting to upgrade to a GPU w/ hdmi 2.1. excited for VRR, though nvidia's "fast" vsync setting feels great.
also waiting for the pro versions of the current consoles.
also waiting for a proper audio processor w/ multiple hdmi 2.1 inputs (i use standalone amps).
playsaves3
Member
I’ve been waiting for the option to but the ps5 in anything but white but a pro May come before thenyeahhh, me too (77" cx though, not gx).
also waiting to upgrade to a GPU w/ hdmi 2.1. excited for VRR, though nvidia's "fast" vsync setting feels great.
also waiting for the pro versions of the current consoles.
also waiting for a proper audio processor w/ multiple hdmi 2.1 inputs (i use standalone amps).
supernova8
Banned
If we have an exact repeat of what happened with Ampere then it's probably Nvidia lowering production to keep inventory tight and prices high (since supply chains are nowhere near as bad as they were at that time). Honestly I'm just glad that GPU prices are crashing. I might pick up a 2070 super or something at some point to replace my GTX 1650. More than enough for what I need especially since I'm not interested in playing crazy prices.
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GymWolf
Member
Well depends, do you have healthy organs to sell?
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REDRZA MWS
Member
playsaves3
Member
Your forced to buy the ps5 in white and then a seperate plate though. I have a white dualsense and don’t want to be forced to have 2 and swapping plates voids warranty. I just want a special edition/different color console like they have always done with its own colored controllerGet a ps5 and dbrand playes. LOVE them.
InverseAgonist
Banned
I hate to bother, but you guys are so well versed in this stuff. I haven't been following the 4xxx series architecture much, unfortunately, but I use the 3xxx for ML and CUDA in a work environment. Is there a noticeable gap up in performance in tensor processing, we are in a position where we have more money than time. I haven't come across any benchmarks yet?!
Thank you!
Thank you!
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kiphalfton
Member
Yeah most their releases are paper launches, where technically it's out but stock is extremely light. They can go screw themselves. I'm guessing it's all for investors when they pull this BS.
Omnipunctual Godot
Gold Member
Hopefully you get some sales soon. Newegg has the 12GB Asus ROG Strix right now for $800. I'm waiting for 4000 series at this point.
ASUS ROG Strix NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 OC Edition Gaming Graphics Card (PCIe 4.0, 12GB GDDR6X, LHR, HDMI 2.1, DisplayPort 1.4a, Axial-tech Fan Design, 2.9-slot, Super Alloy Power II, GPU Tweak II) - Newegg.com
Buy ASUS ROG Strix NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 OC Edition Gaming Graphics Card (PCIe 4.0, 12GB GDDR6X, LHR, HDMI 2.1, DisplayPort 1.4a, Axial-tech Fan Design, 2.9-slot, Super Alloy Power II, GPU Tweak II) with fast shipping and top-rated customer service. Once you know, you Newegg!
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HoofHearted
Member
Same - I've "limped along" this far with my 2080 FE - might as well wait a while longer for the 4000 series to drop.Hopefully you get some sales soon. Newegg has the 12GB Asus ROG Strix right now for $800. I'm waiting for 4000 series at this point.
ASUS ROG Strix NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 OC Edition Gaming Graphics Card (PCIe 4.0, 12GB GDDR6X, LHR, HDMI 2.1, DisplayPort 1.4a, Axial-tech Fan Design, 2.9-slot, Super Alloy Power II, GPU Tweak II) - Newegg.com
Buy ASUS ROG Strix NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 OC Edition Gaming Graphics Card (PCIe 4.0, 12GB GDDR6X, LHR, HDMI 2.1, DisplayPort 1.4a, Axial-tech Fan Design, 2.9-slot, Super Alloy Power II, GPU Tweak II) with fast shipping and top-rated customer service. Once you know, you Newegg!
Worst case - I get a 3080TI/3090 at fire sale prices (assuming NVidia actually releases 4000 series with actual stock available at launch instead of the paper launch they did with the 3080).
Sybrix
Member
I'm waiting for the 3000 cards to drop a little more then ill get my 3080.
If you want to upgrade now, like i do, then do it.
Don't wait for the 4000 cards, you wont get one day one, they'll be sold old, yeah yeah i know crypto is down blah blah blah, the cards will still sell out, you wont get a 4000 card till maybe 2-3 months after 1st release and you'll be lucky to get one then.
If you want to upgrade now, like i do, then do it.
Don't wait for the 4000 cards, you wont get one day one, they'll be sold old, yeah yeah i know crypto is down blah blah blah, the cards will still sell out, you wont get a 4000 card till maybe 2-3 months after 1st release and you'll be lucky to get one then.
supernova8
Banned
They'll be sold out simply because everything is online now so scalpers can effortlessly (at least compared to when we had to go to physical stores like caveman and it was one per customer heh) scoop up the entire stock and throw it on eBay because it's worth it for them if someone can, say, scoop up 3 or 4 and sell them all for a $100-$150 markup. That's a good $600ish profit for not that much work once you have the bot set up to buy everything in sight.
I suppose that's where all the "hey it's supply and demand get over it" dickheads start chiming in. They're technically correct but that doesn't make it less annoying.
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GymWolf
Member
I'm waiting for a 4000 series aswell.Hopefully you get some sales soon. Newegg has the 12GB Asus ROG Strix right now for $800. I'm waiting for 4000 series at this point.
ASUS ROG Strix NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 OC Edition Gaming Graphics Card (PCIe 4.0, 12GB GDDR6X, LHR, HDMI 2.1, DisplayPort 1.4a, Axial-tech Fan Design, 2.9-slot, Super Alloy Power II, GPU Tweak II) - Newegg.com
Buy ASUS ROG Strix NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 OC Edition Gaming Graphics Card (PCIe 4.0, 12GB GDDR6X, LHR, HDMI 2.1, DisplayPort 1.4a, Axial-tech Fan Design, 2.9-slot, Super Alloy Power II, GPU Tweak II) with fast shipping and top-rated customer service. Once you know, you Newegg!
winjer
Gold Member
Flagship NVIDIA "Ada" SKU might feature 18176 cores, 48GB memory and 800W TBP - VideoCardz.com
NVIDIA’s “beasts” gets 18176 CUDA cores Rumored specs of the flagship RTX 40 GPU might have just been revealed by Kopite7kimi. First and foremost, the leaker claims that AD102 based model would feature a new board design (PG137 as opposed to PG139 for RTX 4090). There has been rumors that NVIDIA...
videocardz.com
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
Flagship NVIDIA "Ada" SKU might feature 18176 cores, 48GB memory and 800W TBP - VideoCardz.com
NVIDIA’s “beasts” gets 18176 CUDA cores Rumored specs of the flagship RTX 40 GPU might have just been revealed by Kopite7kimi. First and foremost, the leaker claims that AD102 based model would feature a new board design (PG137 as opposed to PG139 for RTX 4090). There has been rumors that NVIDIA...
800W....you are taking a fucking piss mate!
So the glorious revolutionary 16pin power cable is pretty much already obsolete....we gonna need two of them to power one GPU.
48GB of 1.1TB/s GDDR6X memory?
^
I read that out loud and my wallet immediately ran out the door, took me 20 minutes to catch it only to find out my credit card had committed suicide within seemingly shortly after it took out my debit card and drivers license.......not sure what the drivers license had to do with, im guessing wrong place wrong time.
winjer
Gold Member
On a positive side, inflation and energy prices are going down.......... Oh wait! It's the exact opposite.
A 800W GPU at this time seems like a bad joke.
It's still leaks so who knows if its true or not but if this is to be believed tensor performance should be up 70% over 3090ti on the flagship (you said you had the money so I'm assuming your looking at the halo products).
New Nvidia Lovelace spec leak is downright scandalous
New Nvidia Lovelace flagship might have more than 18,000 CUDA cores
www.techradar.com
edit: beaten but will leave this here cause it's a different article anyway.
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DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Can you return it and wait it out? Don't buy a gpu now.
It's gonna pull that off in frequency increase alone even using the lower bounds of the leaked boost clocks. You think the 4080 is not gonna be more than 25% faster than a 3080? hmmm
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
Kopite leaking the RTX 3070 and 3070Ti way way before the RTX3070ti was even a thing.
He was right about the 3070ti like a year before release and he only gets more accurate the closer release gets.
if Ada is supposed to be released this year.....hes got this.
CrustyBritches
Gold Member
Kopite is one of the best leakers. He's a data miner, not some crackhead with "sources". These are all real cards. Sometimes they're variations that don't end up with a retail release, and sometimes the specs are adjusted, but this is all real hardware.
I already got it. I know about future stuff, but I feel fine with my purchase. I can always sell this one, and upgrade at a later date.
MidGenRefresh
*Refreshes biennially
I'm pretty sure we soon will be plugging GPUs with separate power cable to wall socket.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Yeah of course it will still be a great card but I think we are no more than 6 months from new cards (probably less) and you would have got a considerably more powerful card for cheaper. But like you said, you can sell this and upgrade. So makes sense if you needed it now
Is it bad my first thought was hmmm this might make my terrible cable management better if I can just plug a second power cable in the rear of the pc.I'm pretty sure we soon will be plugging GPUs with separate power cable to wall socket.
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
You'd need a new case that supports two power supplies.
How bad could your cable management possibly be, ive still got the second PC I ever build and in those days there was no behind the motherboard space for cable routing and we had those built in HDD cages.....the cable management was atrocious but still okay.
I am nostalgic of top mounted powersupplies though.
I know the fractal torrent has a top mount, but id really like to see an exact reverse PC case that has the power supply, drive cages and shroud at the top.
In my books that actually works better because these days GPUs while gaming are the hottest part of the PC and having basically nothing below them and fresh air from under and front should give it amazing thermals.
InverseAgonist
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Sleepwalker
Member
800w power draw might be worth it as it means I won't have to turn on the heater during the winter I guess.
Honestly thats beyond retarded, they need to get their shit in check lol
Honestly thats beyond retarded, they need to get their shit in check lol
I was imagining just plugging another power cable from the wall straight into the back of the gpu like midgen kinda said. If I had to put another psu in yeh nah im out. I didn't even put spinning rust in my current build to avoid having to use the extra power and sata cables lol. My cable management isn't bad in general but I always end up with a couple of fan or front panel cables that are just tucked in behind something as im hitting the end of the build and are like i'll do that properly later (and i never do).
I like the psu down the bottom, makes the case less top heavy when i'm dragging it out to get to the back of. Some of the old neowin cases used the top psu mount with air intake from the bottom. I always used the spare drive bays in those days to jam some of the bloody ide ribben cables into lol.
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