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[FunkMiller]

At this stage we’re had:

Both consoles revealed.

An average Sony show in June, with not much gameplay.

A weak Xbox show in July, with even less gameplay - other than poor old Craig.

So, what’s Sony’s next step?

On the one hand, Microsoft haven’t come out all guns blazing, so there’s no need to panic. But on the other, it’s not like Sony have really wowed us all as yet either, have they?

I think they still need State Of Play to be VERY strong in August. The danger for Sony isn’t so much that people might buy the Xbox instead, it’s that they might chose to buy NOTHING. That means Sony has to clearly state the Ps5’s value proposition... and that means some big reveals. And also price and release date. It’s time to lay their cards on the table.

Have posted this elsewhere, but here’s the kind of thing I think they need to produce at State Of Play to get people to buy the Ps5 on release:

Horizon Forbidden West gameplay
Spider-man Miles Morales gameplay
Demon’s Souls gameplay
New IP reveal trailer
Huge IP reveal trailer (GoW, Uncharted, From Software etc.)
Price
Release date
Pre-order

...yes, Microsoft are allowing them to relax a little in terms of the competition, but Sony can’t get lazy now. People don’t have to buy anything.

 

[Birdo]

Get Geoff Keighley to showcase the USB cable.

 

[Swipeyowifelike]

Show how it updates ps4 games, legacy BC, gameplay for announced ps5 games with new announcements, easy.

 

[Hobbygaming]

Following up with the Xbox showing I think Sony should show extended gameplay for either Spider-man Miles Morales, Horizon Forbidden West or both and announce 2 more exclusives preferably God of War Ragnorak and Silent Hill

 

[bishopcruz]

Sit back a bask in the glory? Traditionally that is what they have done. But if I am them I keep capitalizing on the hype. THe GoW reveal will be huge for them. Showing actual gameplay will have to happen sooner or later though.

But price? Nah. I think both they and MS are waiting until the last possible minute for that. We might not get price until September or October.

 

[Men_in_Boxes]

Naughty Dogs multiplayer game.

 

[REDRZA MWS]

 

[JORMBO]

Give us a price and date. Go over BC. Gameplay from launch titles like Spiderman. Show a future game that is graphically amazing. Maybe God of War if they can have something ready by now. Horizon gameplay would be cool too.

 

[HerjansEagleFeeder]

In response? I laugh, lay my legs on the table and wait for money knocking at my doorstep. Maybe cancel all planned marketing to save some money.

 

[psorcerer]

So, what’s Sony’s next step?

Laugh all the way to the bank?

 

[FunkMiller]

In response? I laugh, lay my legs on the table and wait for money knocking at my doorstep. Maybe cancel all planned marketing to save some money.

Laugh all the way to the bank?

See, I don’t think they can do that. Like I say, it’s not so much about people going for Xbox over PlayStation, it’s about them not going for either, if the value proposition isn’t there. And I don’t think Sony have proved there’s just yet...

 

[HerjansEagleFeeder]

See, I don’t think they can do that. Like I say, it’s not so much about people going for Xbox over PlayStation, it’s about them not going for either, if the value proposition isn’t there. And I don’t think Sony have proved there’s just yet...

Might be true for the launch window. But everyone interested in consoles will buy a PS5 at some point in the next 7-8 years if it all continues like it looks to do now.

 

[cormack12]

State of play in August will drop a few surprises I guess. Sony need to show their confident. This means giving us the promised teardown and also announcing price imo.

They need to show what's there at launch as well, and gameplay from those games. Actual gameplay like the Infinite demo.

 

[Bartski]

I call this will be a backwards compatibility centered event with all the "HD" versions on display, TLOU2, GoT and more, + UI in action, system features.
Not expecting the Bloodborne Remaster bombshell since rumors it's in the works at QLOC were debunked, more like a one-more-thing reveal teaser of God of War 2 or Silent Hill caliber to close the show.

 

[Zoro7]

Just a decent price and it’s already GG. 400 and 500 are my guesses for the 2 PS5 consoles.

 

[Hudo]

Maybe let Geoff talk about the pricing of PS5.

 

[DaleinCalgary]

I don't think Sony or MS need to do anything besides release the prices and options and let the internet decide/fight it out.

Both of them were not forced to show more than what they have because of no E3.

 

[Swipeyowifelike]

I don't think Sony or MS need to do anything besides release the prices and options and let the internet decide/fight it out.

Both of them were not forced to show more than what they have because of no E3.

Halo would like a word with you.

 

[hemo memo]

Increase the price and drop pre-orders.

 

[Schmick]

Couple of things Sony will probably be looking out for

1. Xbox Series S and its price
2. Xbox Live Gold - whats the deal with that. Is MP going free?

Probably going to have to wait till August to find out.

 

[Aion002]

Make an event of whats to come in the first year and in the next 3 years.


Show cg's if needed, but just show it that they have much more in store combined with long gameplays of launch window titles.

 

[Mista]

No need to do anything out of this world. Just keep doing what they’ve always been doing. Whats that you ask me? Delivering

 

[Redlight]

So, what’s Sony’s next step?

It's a good point. I suspect that there will be more reveals from both companies, however the only thing they'll be sweating on at this stage is price. How long can they wait? How low can they go? Interesting time ahead.

 

[DeltaPolarBear]

Couple of things Sony will probably be looking out for

1. Xbox Series S and its price
2. Xbox Live Gold - whats the deal with that. Is MP going free?

Probably going to have to wait till August to find out.

Is there even TIME for a Series S reveal? Are we sure it still exists, or is its hypothetical existence the last great hope the fanbase has?

What is even the point of Series S right now when there wouldn't be any proper next gen 1st party games for 2 years? The customer is better off buying a 1S, which is still in production.

 

[VAVA Mk2]

Horizon and Spider Man gameplay to curb stomp MS's showing of Infinite. God I am so pissed.

 

[Mista]

It's a good point. I suspect that there will be more reveals from both companies, however the only thing they'll be sweating on at this stage is price. How long can they wait? How low can they go? Interesting time ahead.

I still believe that both Sony and MS will sell their consoles with a loss or whatever the right term is.

Horizon and Spider Man gameplay to curb stomp MS's showing of Infinite. God I am so pissed.

I feel your frustration. Trust me, as a Halo veteran that grew up with this game. I know the pain.

 

[JonnyMP3]

Bring back an old school well loved classic that is desperate for a reboot...



Parappa the Rapper!

 

[Schmick]

Is there even TIME for a Series S reveal? Are we sure it still exists, or is its hypothetical existence the last great hope the fanbase has?

What is even the point of Series S right now when there wouldn't be any proper next gen 1st party games for 2 years? The customer is better off buying a 1S, which is still in production.

Who knows but in my opinion the point of the Series S is to first to cover the now discontinued Xbox One and secondly, cater for the FIFA/CoD/Fortnite/Minecraft players

 

[Bartski]

Knack 3

 

[MrS]

Just keep announcing new games and you'll be golden. Silent Hill Reboot, TLOU2 Factions and GOW 2.

 

[VAVA Mk2]

I still believe that both Sony and MS will sell their consoles with a loss or whatever the right term is.

I feel your frustration. Trust me, as a Halo veteran that grew up with this game. I know the pain.

Been playing since I was 17 and OG XBox came out. Read a lot of the expanded universe and gave 343i benefit of the doubt with Halo 4 and some leeway on Halo 5. This has been like watching a beloved family pet die a slow, painful death.

 

[Bryank75]

Outline boost mode - Bloodborne patch for PS5 60fps.
Silent Hill Reveal
TLOU2 Factions / Factions 2
Teaser for a new Kojima game
Demons Souls - February / March launch date

Buy Kadokawa (same price as Leyou) and therefore now own From....

 

[FunkMiller]

GOW 2.

This one would be the showstopper, but not sure Cory and gang are far enough along to reveal it as yet. Game is still 2.5 years off. Silent Hill feels a little more likely... and maybe that a Uncharted game from the new secret studio.

 

[DeltaPolarBear]

Who knows but in my opinion the point of the Series S is to first to cover the now discontinued Xbox One and secondly, cater for the FIFA/CoD/Fortnite/Minecraft players

Officially the 1S is still being made. Not saying MS wouldn't kill it, there was certainly historical precedence for it. But for now 1S is being sold.

 

[hyperbertha]

COVID's true ramifications are just kicking in. Expect 2021 to be very very dry. Worse than 2014. I doubt Sony is going to have much to show in the immediate future except for the launch games.

 

[DeltaPolarBear]

Been playing since I was 17 and OG XBox came out. Read a lot of the expanded universe and gave 343i benefit of the doubt with Halo 4 and some leeway on Halo 5. This has been like watching a beloved family pet die a slow, painful death.

Good news is that MS will never let Halo die. As a valuable IP, it would not be put to pasture. Whether what they do with Halo would be to your liking is, of course, another matter.

 

[DaleinCalgary]

Halo would like a word with you.

If you mean Halo needs to show more to excite people, then yes I agree with you on that.

This Halo is like COD where people will just buy it no matter what.

 

[FunkMiller]

Outline boost mode - Bloodborne patch for PS5 60fps.
Silent Hill Reveal
TLOU2 Factions / Factions 2
Teaser for a new Kojima game
Demons Souls - February / March launch date

Buy Kadokawa (same price as Leyou) and therefore now own From....

Has it been confirmed for this window? Because I could honestly see it being a launch title, given that Bluepoint have been on it for a very long time, and it’s a remake.

 

[captainraincoat]

show why your first 2 years wont suck like the last 2 generations did

should expand before i get jumped on
the first 2 years of the last 2 ps consoles have been sparce with indies as padding...what sony have shown so far looks to be the same....they cant afford to do this

 

[Mista]

Been playing since I was 17 and OG XBox came out. Read a lot of the expanded universe and gave 343i benefit of the doubt with Halo 4 and some leeway on Halo 5. This has been like watching a beloved family pet die a slow, painful death.

I don't understand why they still insist on giving the franchise to 343

I mean they had two previous chances before and they failed

 

[Tschumi]

You know what? I'm gonna say it.

They don't have to do a damn thing they haven't already done.

And you know what? I'm not surprised, and neither should you be. This is a colossally wealthy and successful company, with a huge and well earned fanbase, with a string of gigaton hits released in the latest few years.

They are not. chumps.

They were deliberate in their decision to not release any footage for months after the Deep Dive video. They knew what they were doing - there was no shitty marketing involved, no idiocy. They knew that word of mouth would carry them further than xBox could possibly achieve.

There is nothing we gaming forumgoers can possibly say to educate Sony on how to roll out the PS5. Or Microsoft for that matter (at least, in theory, but then again, in theory the POTUS is competent)

This is surely now established: PS5 and XSX are not direct competitors. XSX was a direct competitor, a few years ago when they started on it and they made their targets for power and performance, but these days it's been watered down to fit into their wack business model of making sure as big a pool of fans can buy their games as possible. PS5 = the next generation in computer gaming consoles, to be challenged only by whatever Nintendo next puts out - in sales figures, at least. XSX = A cog in Microsoft's desire to turn all of it's franchises into some version of a Fortnight or Overwatch.

 

[Ar¢tos]

Is there even TIME for a Series S reveal?

At the end of a show, after the credits.
Or at the start of a show as a small font fast scrolling note at the bottom.

 

[Kuranghi]

Sony right now:

 

[bellome]

Games, as usual.

 

[DeltaPolarBear]

At the end of a show, after the credits.
Or at the start of a show as a small font fast scrolling note at the bottom.

I guess what i really meant, is that MS need to start make the damn things by now. And I really don't think it is possible for Series S to stay a secret once mass production began. So why have we not seen the real deal yet?

 

[Liamario]

Reveal an acceptable price point and create some extra hype by announcing some additional AAA games.

 

[Great Hair]

#BBBC

Spoiler

B L O O D B O R N E
B A C K W A R D
C O M P A T I B I L I T Y
4 K 6 0 H D R R A Y T R A C I N G
... about to burst.

 

[Redlight]

I still believe that both Sony and MS will sell their consoles with a loss or whatever the right term is.

I feel your frustration. Trust me, as a Halo veteran that grew up with this game. I know the pain.

I really don't give a stuff about Halo to be honest, loved the grass in the first one (seemed amazing then, it's shit now), I hated the flood. I thought Halo 2 was a disaster and quite enjoyed Halo 3 (especially the multiplayer).

Since then? Not really interested.

However fanboy exaggeration and overreaction really does get right up my nose.

Truth be told I'm much more hyped for Far Cry 6 than any of the exclusive games offered by either console. Let me see who does that best.

.

 

[geordiemp]

Sony could double production of ps5

Oh, they have done that already, they probably know whats up.

 

[Ten_Fold]

Let me put my PS2 disc in the ps5.