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Mibu no ookami
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PS5
1H FY 8.2 m
LTD 46.6 m
Stunned and confused that it outsold Mario, must be all that tie in.
Impressive result.
That being said, will need extremely high results in Q3 and Q4 in order to get that 25 million. Just not looking likely at this point.
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Snowdonhoffen
Member
Niche-Man strikes again.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
5M in 10 days puts Spider-Man 2 ahead of God of War Ragnarok, right?
Damn, that's impressive!
Damn, that's impressive!
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
No
God Of War Ragnarok Sells 5 Million Copies In A Week, Becomes Fastest-Selling First-Party PlayStation Game
The Last of Us: Part II previously held the record for fastest-selling first-party PlayStation game.
www.gamespot.com
Luminoth-4545
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Hardware sales are up 1.6 million year over year for the quarter and after Q2 totals 8.2 million versus 5.7 million last fiscal year.
PS5 Versus PS4
For the 2nd quarter of the 3rd full FY (yellow) the 4.9 million the PS5 shipped is 1 million up on PS4's 3.9 million. After 12 quarters PS5 totals 46.6 million compared to 47.6 million for PS4. This means launch aligned the PS5 is only 1 million down on PS4.
PS5 versus current competitors
After 12 quarters PS5 totals 46.6 million compared to 25.3 million (est) for XBS and 52.48 million for NSW. This means launch aligned the PS5 is 21.3 million (est) up on XBS and 5.88 million down on NSW. It should be noted that PS5's Q3 is one quarter after NSW's when launch aligned so the PS5 should catch up after it's next quarter.
Note: XBS hardware shipments are my personal estimates based on the limited information available.
PS5 Versus PS4
For the 2nd quarter of the 3rd full FY (yellow) the 4.9 million the PS5 shipped is 1 million up on PS4's 3.9 million. After 12 quarters PS5 totals 46.6 million compared to 47.6 million for PS4. This means launch aligned the PS5 is only 1 million down on PS4.
PS5 versus current competitors
After 12 quarters PS5 totals 46.6 million compared to 25.3 million (est) for XBS and 52.48 million for NSW. This means launch aligned the PS5 is 21.3 million (est) up on XBS and 5.88 million down on NSW. It should be noted that PS5's Q3 is one quarter after NSW's when launch aligned so the PS5 should catch up after it's next quarter.
Note: XBS hardware shipments are my personal estimates based on the limited information available.
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Mibu no ookami
Member
Looks like they are still taking a loss on hardware. I'm sure those discounts in Europe didn't help.
Mibu no ookami
Member
·(ー) Impact of changes in the launch dates of a portion of first-party titles
Sony has confirmed that titles scheduled for FY23 have been pushed out. Think we're almost certainly looking at TLOU Online and maybe Twisted Metal.
Sony has confirmed that titles scheduled for FY23 have been pushed out. Think we're almost certainly looking at TLOU Online and maybe Twisted Metal.
vivftp
Member
Destiny 2 The Final Shape and Stellar Blade are the two most likely candidates. TLOU Online is also a strong candidate. Twisted Metal probably wasn't meant for this FY since the game had to switch studios a while back, so they probably knew it wasn't going to land around the time of the TV show just because of that.
Mr.Phoenix
Member
The first half already puts them 2.5M ahead vs FY22 1H, They are well on track.
Tommi84
Member
Just don't fail no nut november
kazuyamishima
Member
16.8m to go.
IT WILL be achieved.
Nicheman 2 will go past 10m units before the end of the year.
IT WILL be achieved.
Nicheman 2 will go past 10m units before the end of the year.
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MrTired
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There not going to be able to match there Q4 FY22 this year though.
Mibu no ookami
Member
2.5M ahead of FY22 isn't going to be enough to get to 25 million. They have to sell 3.4 million on top of what they did in FY22 which was already a really strong result. They'll need to more than match PS4/5 record highs for Q3 and Q4.
FF7R2 probably won't be able to carry it in Q4.
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MrTired
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Realistic there going to have to ship 12 million units this quarter and 4.8 in Q4. I don't think the Switch moved that many Switches in Q3 at its peak.
demigod
Member
Where are you getting this from?
Mr.Phoenix
Member
they don't have to. All they have to do is have a really good Q3. If they can hit 11-12M units, which should be doable with both Spiderman + COD bundles + PS5 refresh, then all they need in Q4 is around 4M.
And I still expect price drops.
James Sawyer Ford
Member
They did 19M last year.
They just need 6M more to reach their goal of 25M, and they already have 2.5M of that 6M leading into the highest quarter
So yeah, 25M seems like a lock
kazuyamishima
Member
New model + bundles and price reductions.
A lot of people forget that Europe-ROTW-Japan had poor stock of PS5 for most of the holidays last year. This holiday will be different.
James Sawyer Ford
Member
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
I, of course, don't know about your estimation method, so I'm not questioning it.Hardware sales are up 1.6 million year over year and after Q2 total 8.2 million versus 5.7 million last fiscal year.
Versus PS4
For the 2nd quarter of the 3rd full FY (yellow) the 4.9 million the PS5 shipped is 1.00 million up on PS4's 3.9 million. After 12 quarters PS5 totals 46.6 million compared to 47.6 million for PS4. This means launch aligned the PS5 is 1 million down on PS4.
PS5 versus current competitors
After 12 quarters PS5 totals 46.6 million compared to 25.3 million (est) for XBS and 52.48 million for NSW. This means launch aligned the PS5 is 21.30 million (est) up on XBS and 5.88 million down on NSW. It should be noted that PS5's Q3 is one quarter after NSW's so the PS5 should catch up in it's next quarter.
Note: XBS hardware shipments are my personal estimates based on the limited information available.
But according to my estimates, XBS is nowhere close to ~25M.
- XBS was estimated to be at ~18.5 million by Dec 2022.
- It sold roughly ~8.5 million in 2022 (Jan-Dec), so approximately 0.7M per month.
- And has been down since then in 2023 YoY.
- ~25M would mean XBS has already sold ~6.5 million in 9 months, or 0.72 per month - which we know can't be the case as XBS is approx. ~20% down YoY.
Mibu no ookami
Member
Q422 had Hogwarts Legacy, as well as Dead Space, and some exposure to RE4 Remake.
There is almost no chance that they're able to replicate that with only FF7R2.
They'll have to have massive sales in order to reach 25 million.
James Sawyer Ford
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Mibu no ookami
Member
Which assisted in a higher Q4... You have to include all the context.
AnotherOne
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Mibu no ookami
Member
I would bet my account against yours that they don't hit 12 million for the quarter...
James Sawyer Ford
Member
You can do whatever you want. But it’s not that far fetched given the bundles with their most popular IP
Anywho, they only had a final Fantasy last quarter and did 4.9M
Having “only” FF7R in their second biggest quarter is probably good enough for 6M, most people will continue buying it for SM2 either way
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Mibu no ookami
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Q4-22 was higher due to spillover from Q3 shortages globally and massive hit games that are bigger than FF7R2.
James Sawyer Ford
Member
Spider-Man 2 is a much more massive hit game and will bleed over into next quarter
The original did 30M
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
There may also be a Monster Hunter game that would also push PS5s.
And if Sony ever feels the momentum declining, they could always show one of their big upcoming games and renew the selling spree, e.g., God of War's spin-off game, Santa Monica's next game, Ghost of Tsushima 2 teaser, Horizon 1 remake, etc.
Mibu no ookami
Member
That's 30 million including PC and the remaster... Spider-Man will have legs, but it'll be spread across CY2024 not all in Q423
Mr.Phoenix
Member
I think it all hinges on how well they do this Q3.
Spiderman and COD bundles could go a really long way. If they hit 12M, then they only need 4M from Q4, anything above 12M is a bonus.
Mibu no ookami
Member
People really don't buy consoles based on showcases, they buy based on releases, price cuts, e.t.c.
Showing games isn't going to get them to their requisite numbers in Q4.
James Sawyer Ford
Member
It is an evergreen title. Most of that 30M was ps4 alone
People picking up a console next year will still be buying it for SM2
Dirk Benedict
Gold Member
Heh.
www.shacknews.com
Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom sold 10 million units in its launch weekend
The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom is off to a phenomenal start, breaking 10 million units sold in its first three days.
www.shacknews.com
kazuyamishima
Member
We don’t know the strategy yet. They might do more price cuts or announce new games (first and third party).
If by any chance they don’t achieve their 25m units for this FY, they will fall very short of it.
Credit needs to be given, they did it with a $499/€549 machine (most of the time).
Mibu no ookami
Member
They aren't getting 12 million... that's a complete pipe dream. If the momentum for Spider-Man was that strong, we would have seen higher unit sales in October and November than we've seen.
James Sawyer Ford
Member
Of course they will. The black friday deals this year will be insane
Guessing it’ll be 449/499 with SM2 bundled
Unit sales are based on existing ps5 owners, has nothing to do with future console sale potential
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Mr.Phoenix
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Mibu no ookami
Member
This translator is killing me.
6 live service games by end of FY25
Couldn't understand whether they are still trying to get to 12.
They seme to be focusing on quality over quantity and confirm some cancellations.
6 live service games by end of FY25
Couldn't understand whether they are still trying to get to 12.
They seme to be focusing on quality over quantity and confirm some cancellations.
I'd say that 25m should be doable. At least in Europe, Sony has been pretty aggressive with their pricing strategy lately. Right now, I can order a PS5 disc edition with a copy of Modern Warfare 3 for €488
Combined with Spider-Man they should have one of their best quarters ever, especially since Xbox is out of the picture and Switch is in it's twilight year so there's not a whole lot of competition until next year.
Combined with Spider-Man they should have one of their best quarters ever, especially since Xbox is out of the picture and Switch is in it's twilight year so there's not a whole lot of competition until next year.
Sakura
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The PS4s best year was 20 million, and PS5 is currently only tracking about 1 million ahead of that.
I don't think even the PS2 did 25 million in a year.
I wouldn't say it is impossible, but seems unlikely that they will hit that target.
James Sawyer Ford
Member
Last quarter was up 50% without a heavy hitter like SM2
50% above last year’s Q3 is 10.5M
Again, not a stretch to reach 12M with bundles and SM2 this quarter…
50% above last year’s Q3 is 10.5M
Again, not a stretch to reach 12M with bundles and SM2 this quarter…
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