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[Draugoth]

Some news: Marvel's Midnight Suns was a critical success but a commercial flop. Take-Two CEO Strauss Zelnick told me in an interview this afternoon that "it's possible the release window wasn't perfect" but that he thinks it could have a long tail, like other Firaxis games

 

[Nico_D]

At that price I can't say I'm surprised. I rarely buy games at full price anymore, not last gen and certainly not this one, Hogwarts being exception.

 

[Mister Wolf]

I enjoyed my time with it. Magik was my favorite Marvel character to use and interact with.

 

[Punished Miku]

$70 is a nonstarter for this game.

 

[feynoob]

The genre of that game doesn't work with marvel very well.

 

[cornonthecrobb]

i pciked it up this week for like 30 quid... probably wont play it for while cos the trans killing wizards game is out

 

[TheSHEEEP]

Two problems:
1. Price point was simply too high
2. Marvel fatigue. Honestly at this point I see "Marvel" I immediately tune out. And I can't be the only one.

 

[Spyxos]

It looked like a mobile game. Gameplay i think is good, but this dialoge i couldn't even stand in short review videos, let alone play it myself. And as I understand it, the dialogs are mandatory.

 

[ADiTAR]

I would've bought it on Switch, oh wait...

Also seems like they made some critical error thinking people want to be invested in talking.

 

[SJRB]

Surely this can't come as a surprise to them. Writing was on the wall ever since the first reveal.

Make an X-Com style game but add an arbitrary card game mechanic, and make 50% of the game a relationship simulator.

What the fuck were they thinking?

 

[Revolutionary]

Been playing this the past few weeks and absolutely loving it. Probably my favorite Marvel game to date. Hope there's more to come but considering it bombed, it's probably unlikely.

 

[Camreezie]

Just finished this up yesterday really enjoyed the game. With the ending tease i definitely expect an expansion and a ultimate superhero edition

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

2022 GOTY, excellent game and easily worth every cent.

 

[Shut0wen]

Marvel is dying and the earth is healing

 

[Jennings]

I said this in the review thread before we had a stand-alone thread for this news. I'll share it here since this seems like a better place for this type of conversation:

The only reason I didn't pick up Midnight Suns, especially after all the amazing word of mouth that only continues to grow to this day, is the $70 price tag on my platform. After seeing all the love I went straight to product page and was ready to buy until I saw the price. Now the game is relegated to patient gamer status and I'll just get around to it whenever I get around to it, after a deep sale some time down the road. They just murdered my hype, all urgency, my impulse purchase, and a +1 on their sales numbers.

I have no idea how representative I am of the average gamer, but the game seems like it deserves better and it's unfortunate that it hit the street positioned so poorly and at such a prohibitive price.

 

[Nankatsu]

Was about to binge it but ended up aborting it.

Considering it was a comercial flop, now it's easily one of those games that will appear on gaming services for free sooner or later.

We just gotta wait.

 

[ssringo]

2. Marvel fatigue. Honestly at this point I see "Marvel" I immediately tune out. And I can't be the only one.

This is me. Couldn't tell you a thing about the game because I just didn't care anymore.

 

[Mister Wolf]

Been playing this the past few weeks and absolutely loving it. Probably my favorite Marvel game to date. Hope there's more to come but considering it bombed, it's probably unlikely.

It was my first time playing a game with a card based battle system and I absolutely loved it. Makes me think about all the card based rpgs that I shouldn't have ignored in the past like Baten Kaitos.

 

[TonyK]

The genre of that game doesn't work with marvel very well.

It's my main problem with the game. Same for Mario Rabbids. Those IPs and strategy don't mix very well in my mind, so I end not buying them.

 

[fermcr]

"Marvel's Midnight Suns was a critical success but a commercial flop"

Nobody asked for this game. That card system turned most people off. People wanted something like XCOM, but got this instead...

 

[Bumblebeetuna]

I got it on SX on a digital sale where the gold or whatever edition was like $61. It’s a really good game, probably the best one of 2022 for me.

 

[murmulis]

"Marvel's Midnight Suns was a critical success but a commercial flop"

Nobody asked for this game. That card system turned most people off. People wanted something like XCOM, but got this instead...

Card system was fine. Superheroes don't hide behind cover and they don't miss their shots.

 

[Aurelius]

Good.
Now make a new XCom game.

 

[diffusionx]

It’s an excellent game. I am glad I gave it a chance because I thought it looked stupid before hand too. Anyone who has ever played a Firaxis game and liked it will like this one too. Put aside the fact that it’s capeshit and just give it a try. It is easily as good as any other game they ever did.

 

[Fbh]

I could have looked past the ugly graphics and art direction and the card based system which on the surface make it seem like a cheap mobile game. But in the end the seemingly extensive social crap in between missions ended up being the dealbreaker for me. I want to join Blade in kicking vampire ass, not joining a book club

 

[ChuckeRearmed]

Makes sense.

 

[Dr. Kitty Muffins]

I absolutely love the game though. I highly recommend that you support the developers and buy it right away.

 

[Grildon Tundy]

I said this in the review thread before we had a stand-alone thread for this news. I'll share it here since this seems like a better place for this type of conversation:

I somehow missed that the XCOM team (I love the newer XCOMs) made an XCOM-adjacent Marvel (card) game until last week. Been really enjoying Marvel Snap on mobile. Excitedly went to the Steam page. Saw "Mostly Positive" reviews along with a $60 price tag and same--straight to the wishlist for when it inevitably goes on sale. Or Game Pass.

 

[balls of snow]

Yep not my genre so picking it up when its a tenner.

 

[AmuroChan]

This should've been a $39.99 game. Having the Marvel name is not enough to justify a $70 price point.

 

[Skifi28]

What put me off the most were the animations especially in combat, I've seen better stuff on mobile.

 

[aries_71]

It’s a pity. It’s an excellent game.

 

[Larogue]

$70 ?

Unless the game is massive AAA (think GTA/Witcher), It's no for me.

 

[Thirty7ven]

It’s a niche genre.

 

[Punished Miku]

$70 ?

Unless the game is massive AAA (think GTA/Witcher), It's no for me.

Remember when $70 was supposed to be just for super next-gen only games that are so expensive they can't be made on $60? Premium tier only, like Gotham Knights.

 

[amigastar]

It’s a pity. It’s an excellent game.

Yep, i wish it would have made more money.

 

[gothmog]

I'm not paying full price for a card game. Lol.

I'm still interested in playing at some point, but I have a stack of games to finish first before I would even consider purchasing it.

 

[jshackles]

$70 was a total non-starter - and this is coming from someone who enjoys Marvel's output, likes tactical RPGs, and generally enjoys Firaxis stuff.

 

[diffusionx]

This should've been a $39.99 game. Having the Marvel name is not enough to justify a $70 price point.

It’s a full game with tons of content and lots to do. What exactly makes it a discount game?

 

[Gamer_By_Proxy]

Niche genre is niche. More news at 11

 

[Jennings]

It's on my Xbox wishlist and I just got an email 2 minutes ago telling me it's now on sale for 40% off, putting it at $41 and change.

 

[graywolf323]

It's on my Xbox wishlist and I just got an email 2 minutes ago telling me it's now on sale for 40% off, putting it at $41 and change.

buy it, honestly it was worth it at full price but at 40% off it’s a steal & this game deserves to sell well enough to get a sequel

 

[DeepEnigma]

Hey Take 2, you know what else was a critical and commercial success, but you gave a big FUCK YOU to 60+ million gamers?

RDR2.

 

[DryvBy]

It looked like a mobile game. Gameplay i think is good, but this dialoge i couldn't even stand in short review videos, let alone play it myself. And as I understand it, the dialogs are mandatory.

I rented it on PS5 and it looks like a cellphone game. I didn't even find the gameplay fun either. I'm not sure why people loved it that played it.

 

[StueyDuck]

I seem to remember it releasing at a bad time as well as having basically little to no marketing

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

Y'all in here are wild and it honestly blows my mind, nothing about this game is discount/budget and it's completely worth full price; it's super fucking good and could be a hit franchise if people would just pay for it

 

[Lunarorbit]

It’s a full game with tons of content and lots to do. What exactly makes it a discount game?

I instantly thought of the high price point when I saw the Jason tweet just like lots of other posters. Fair or not a static xcom like game like this is going to be judged on its price regardless of its content.

$70 is a premium price and consumers only give that up to AAA games the first month. If they had charged $50 it would have stood out. It would be cheaper than new last gen games and a fair price point.

Inscription. Tactics Ogre Reborn is $40 on Amazon for Switch.

Nintendo is charging $40 for tactics Ogre. Argue all you want about how they are different games and ones a remake. You still can't charge $70 for Marvel suns or this will happen.

Bet it sells alot though when it's on sale. It's on my wish list

 

[Jennings]

I just picked the game up on the 2k publisher sale, which gave me 40% off. I'll play it tonight.

Also, apparently there's now a 3-hour console demo available as of this morning.

Firaxis launches three-hour ‘Marvel’s Midnight Suns’ demo

Firaxis has launched a three-hour demo of 'Marvel’s Midnight Suns', available to Xbox players and PlayStation Plus Premium subscribers

www.nme.com

 

[BennyBlanco]

I thought it was really good. I just skipped most of the dialogue. The combat is fun as hell.

 

[FoxMcChief]

I tried to get a refund from MS for this game (no fault of the game, just would rather use the money on a different game) and was denied. I only played it for about an hour.

Oh well. I look forward to getting back to this game though. I’ll likely have to start over though. I don’t think I remember the mechanics.