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[bigmakstudios]

How do I get to the 2-1 remake? I saw an inaccessible door in chapter 2-1, but I don't know how to... access it. >_>

 

[AniHawk]

How do I get to the 2-1 remake? I saw an inaccessible door in chapter 2-1, but I don't know how to... access it. >_>

"It's a secret."

 

[underfooter]

1. Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door - 9
2. Super Paper Mario - 8.5
3. Paper Mario - 8.3
4. Super Mario RPG - 7.8- b-b-b-but why?!
5. Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time - 7
6. Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga - 5.5

I generally agree with your wii scores though, I need to get Excite Truck.

 

[MiamiWesker]

I just beat the game, 28 hours ( I did a lot of the side quests), very good game but just a step below being excellent. Of course the inconsistent level design is mostly to blame.

 

[bigmakstudios]

"It's a secret."

Well, I was able to get to the exit from Chapter 3-1... but I still don't know how to get to the entrance.

 

[DeathbyVolcano]

1. Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door - 9
2. Super Paper Mario - 8.5
3. Paper Mario - 8.3
4. Super Mario RPG - 7.8
5. Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time - 7
6. Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga - 5.5

I usually agree with you, but ****ing ugh.

It really goes:

Paper Mario-9.999999 (my favorite N64 game)
Paper Mario: TTYD: 9
Mario and Luigi: Superstar Saga-9
Super Paper Mario-8.5
Super Mario RPG-8.5
Partners in Time-7

 

[AniHawk]

I usually agree with you, but ****ing ugh.

It really goes:

Paper Mario-9.999999 (my favorite N64 game)
Paper Mario: TTYD: 9
Mario and Luigi: Superstar Saga-9
Super Paper Mario-8.5
Super Mario RPG-8.5
Partners in Time-7

Yeah except the Mario & Luigi games were pretty awful.

 

[DeathbyVolcano]

Superstar Saga was great, poopface. Partners in Time was sucky, but SS was so much fun–one of my most played GBA games ever. What sucked about them?

 

[grandjedi6]

Superstar Saga was great, poopface. Partners in Time was sucky, but SS was so much fun–one of my most played GBA games ever. What sucked about them?

I don't know about Anihawk but I never found most of the jokes funny in Mario and Luigi, I liked Fawful but thats about it. Still I wouldn't have put the Mario and Luigi games that low, they were still some fun.

 

[AniHawk]

I don't know about Anihawk but I never found most of the jokes funny in Mario and Luigi, I liked Fawful but thats about it. Still I wouldn't have put the Mario and Luigi games that low, they were still some fun.

Yeah. I didn't find the funny in Mario & Luigi. Kinda the same with Super Paper Mario, really. Except SPM actually had level design and gameplay that didn't suck ass.

 

[Mejilan]

I don't care how you feel about AlphaDreams' take on the Mario RPG series, but Superstar Saga CRUSHED Partners in Time.

 

[Y2Kev]

I loved Super Mario RPG. Geno rox.

 

[grandjedi6]

Yeah. I didn't find the funny in Mario & Luigi. Kinda the same with Super Paper Mario, really. Except SPM actually had level design and gameplay that didn't suck ass.

The only real positive the Mario and Luigi games have over the Paper Mario games is that they don't have any horribly annoying time wasters like the subsequent train rides in Paper Mario:TTYD or the "hamster Wheel" in Super paper Mario

 

[DeathbyVolcano]

We should all agree that the original Paper Mario trumps all.

 

[AniHawk]

I don't care how you feel about AlphaDreams' take on the Mario RPG series, but Superstar Saga CRUSHED Partners in Time.

I think the lack of a team is what hurt Mario & Luigi. There was no variation and it got old fast. With the Super Mario RPG and the Paper Mario games, you have other characters and abilities. With Mario & Luigi, you're stuck with the same two guys for the entire 20 hours. I didn't actually finish Partners in Time, but I thought some of the items were a lot of fun. The problem was that each enemy had way too much ****ing HP. In that aspect it was even worse than the first game. I'm also a sucker for time travel in video games, which may be the reason for my preference too.

 

[grandjedi6]

We should all agree that the original Paper Mario trumps all.

I'm willing to side with that.

 

[elostyle]

We should all agree that the original Paper Mario trumps all.

Except for the fact that it doesn't.

 

[grandjedi6]

Except for the fact that it doesn't.

And which one do you think is better (prepare to have your opinion blasted apart)

 

[typhonsentra]

I don't know about Anihawk but I never found most of the jokes funny in Mario and Luigi, I liked Fawful but thats about it. Still I wouldn't have put the Mario and Luigi games that low, they were still some fun.

I find this interesting that you'd say that, as I don't find the humor in any of the games funny. I always just assumed it was a difference in style, but you didn't like that one's humor either? What did you find funny in the other games (Besides Francis, which is obvious)?

 

[Mejilan]

PM or PM2 are definitely my favorites. PM2 for the gameplay and humor, PM1 for the setting, story, and humor (less than PM2). PM2 was also held back by some unnecessary backtracking and fluff. Both are VERY close.

I dug SMRPG the very first time, and M&L1 was amusing enough to see me through completion, even though it was a pale shadow of the PM games. M&L2, however, bored me to tears and I don't think I ever even got past the 6 hour mark, I'm ashamed to admit.

 

[grandjedi6]

I find this interesting that you'd say that, as I don't find the humor in any of the games funny. I always just assumed it was a difference in style, but you didn't like that one's humor either? What did you find funny in the other games (Besides Francis, which is obvious)?

None of them are really "Haha" funny but the Paper Mario games are more about references and inside jokes.

 

[DeathbyVolcano]

Except for the fact that it doesn't.

Blargh, bullsheet. Paper Mario had the best story (lol mario story lol), partners, special moves, locations and moves than Thousand Year Door. TTYD was amazing, but the backtracking and the party members aren't as cool as the N64 versions. The only chapters that really, truly shined were the Rawk Hawk chapter and the one where you're in that creepy twon where the villagers are turned to pigs. The original Paper Mario had effing fantastic locations, like:

Mushroom Castle Town
Turtle Fortress thing
Sand Ruins
Boo Mansion
Yoshi's Island-type area
Awesome Ice area
and then let's not forget the best level ever:

Shyguy Toybox

Plus, Bowser as the main villain is still better than anything else done in a Mario RPG.

 

[Oblivion]

You know, after playing SPM, I don't know what I was expecting out of this game, really.

 

[grandjedi6]

You know, after playing SPM, I don't know what I was expecting out of this game, really.

You were probably expecting one of two things:

A good IS game with good inside references and a focus off the gameplay

or.....

New New Super Mario Bros.

 

[superbank]

:lol :lol :lol

I'm sure I'm super late but :lol Theres a

Spoiler

crow eating reference in the trial of 100 or whatever.

 

[ruffles]

Is anyone else using Bowser just so that one can see what his dialog says in the story related scenes? His lines are hilarious.

 

[marc^o^]

I love this game, chapter 3 was awesome!

 

[DevelopmentArrested]

5 hours in. just reached 3-2.

 

[tetrisgrammaton]

None of them are really "Haha" funny but the Paper Mario games are more about references and inside jokes.

in PM TTYD, when the crows are talking about the depletion of fossil fuels, its funny as crap

 

[farnham]

I don't care how you feel about AlphaDreams' take on the Mario RPG series, but Superstar Saga CRUSHED Partners in Time.

nah.. partners in time was great... probably the best use of the dual screens yet..

 

[stewacide]

I'm a little overwhelmed/confused at this point by the item collecting/holding and 'card' elements of the game. About 1/2 way through world 3, and I keep being asked to drop items and store items whose purpose I don't at all understand. Is all this RPG stuff explained later?

Spoiler

p.s. the "waggle" mini-games in the arcade are fantastic: would have been very solid inclusions in WW:SM.

 

[Ravager61]

I'm a little overwhelmed/confused at this point by the item collecting/holding and 'card' elements of the game. About 1/2 way through world 3, and I keep being asked to drop items and store items whose purpose I don't at all understand. Is all this RPG stuff explained later?

If you have a creatures card, you do more damage to to that creature. Also, most items tell you what they do. Some heal HP, some damage enemies, etc

 

[BorkBork]

I'm a little overwhelmed/confused at this point by the item collecting/holding and 'card' elements of the game. About 1/2 way through world 3, and I keep being asked to drop items and store items whose purpose I don't at all understand. Is all this RPG stuff explained later?

Spoiler

p.s. the "waggle" mini-games in the arcade are fantastic: would have been very solid inclusions in WW:SM.

The

Spoiler

tilt mini-game

is by far my favorite. It's so simple yet so damn fun.

 

[AdmiralViscen]

11 hours in, loving it so far...

But what the **** was Chapter 6?


And how are some of you taking 20+ hours with this? Is there a lot to do after you get all the Pure Hearts?

 

[AniHawk]

11 hours in, loving it so far...

But what the **** was Chapter 6?


And how are some of you taking 20+ hours with this? Is there a lot to do after you get all the Pure Hearts?

Between worlds 7 and 8 I did Merlee's fetch quest and some exploring in general.

 

[The Hermit]

:lol :lol :lol

I'm sure I'm super late but :lol Theres a

Spoiler

crow eating reference in the trial of 100 or whatever.

What?

 

[Finn]

And how are some of you taking 20+ hours with this? Is there a lot to do after you get all the Pure Hearts?

I've going on my 35th hour and I beat the game around 19 hours. I've been trying to complete the recipes and just wandering around Flip and Flopside. There are quite a few secrets to uncover. And when you get bored, the arcade is a great time waster.

 

[stewacide]

The

Spoiler

tilt mini-game

is by far my favorite. It's so simple yet so damn fun.

I was a bit tipsy last night, and I got so into the flow w/ that I was in video-game nirvana

I didn't set the high score but I'll be sure to some day. Sometimes even simple motion control like that can be a *blast*

The

Spoiler

shooting gallery

one also worked really well: great controls.

 

[MiamiWesker]

11 hours in, loving it so far...

But what the **** was Chapter 6?


And how are some of you taking 20+ hours with this? Is there a lot to do after you get all the Pure Hearts?

I would spend hours in the town after each chapter. I would always try to do better in the arcades, do some recipes, look for secrets, get cards, etc.

 

[grandjedi6]

nah.. partners in time was great... probably the best use of the dual screens yet..

You're kidding right?.....

 

[JSnake]

Woo, I got a tag related to this awesome game.

 

[Mejilan]

You're kidding right?.....

That aside, decent dual-screen usage does not a great game make.

 

[Belfast]

The M&L games are an exercise in bad interface design. Not only did you have to switch between the two brothers constantly, but then you had to switch between their powers and execute them. PiT added the little brats to the mix, too.

 

[stewacide]

Quick question:

Do I *really* have to get 1000 coins for the old guy in space? That seems like a lot of work!

Just a simple yes/no would be good: if there's a 'smarter'/cheaper way I don't want to ruin it.

 

[JSnake]

Quick question:

Do I *really* have to get 1000 coins for the old guy in space? That seems like a lot of work!

Just a simple yes/no would be good: if there's a 'smarter'/cheaper way I don't want to ruin it.

No.

 

[Version 3.0]

I'd like to chime in and briefly say how great this game is. Pathetically, I bought the other two Paper Mario games thinking they looked cool, and that the more interactive approach to the RPG genre would keep me awake. It didn't happen. I might've fallen asleep more slowly than I do with, say, a FF game, but I got nowhere in either one. I'm about halfway through this one now, and loving every minute (except the annoying character/pixl switching. Minus button next time, guys! We can see the controls from the menu).

Third time's the charm!

 

[Azure Dream]

The 100 Sammer Guy Tournament (

Spoiler

the full version

) was a bit of a bore, but sometimes their pre-and post-fight chatter (and the things Tippy would say about them) were pretty funny. I about died when I hit the 39th Gate:

Spoiler

YARRRRRRRRRRRR!

Me name be Software Pirate,
barnacle-booty'd scourge
of the 39th gate!

I be plunderin' yer bits an' yer
bytes and downloadin' 'em
into me britches!

Me treasure disks'll be full
of cyber-riches after I swipe
yer treasure bump mapping!

DIGIBOOTY AHOY!

-----

Arrrful...


-----

Yarrr, I be washed up...

Sunk by me unquenchable
lust for digibooty...

-----

Tippi:
That's Software Pirate, one
of King Sammer's legendary
Sammer Guys...

Don't be alarmed if you
don't understand him...
Most people can't...

I was also blown away at the number of references to glitching and sequence breaking, the latter in particular. (There's even a book about it on Francis' bedroom shelf.)


One other thing for those that have beaten the game: check the bar on the lower level of Flipside, it looks like there's a Sound Test option available via InterNedd (I was out of coins, so I couldn't check it out).

 

[Mejilan]

Quick question:

Do I *really* have to get 1000 coins for the old guy in space? That seems like a lot of work!

Just a simple yes/no would be good: if there's a 'smarter'/cheaper way I don't want to ruin it.

Here's a clue. You CAN'T accrue that much coin. 999 is the limit.

 

[MiamiWesker]

The 100 Sammer Guy Tournament (

Spoiler

the full version

) was a bit of a bore, but sometimes their pre-and post-fight chatter (and the things Tippy would say about them) were pretty funny. I about died when I hit the 39th Gate:

.

Hold on

Spoiler

thats what the other two chapters are in level 6, they actually put you through all 100 guys

.. ugh... thank god most of it is optional.

 

[Inspirius]

For the europeans amongst us (myself included natch), I spotted earlier that SPM is now listed on gameplay.

See here

It's £29.99 and has a release date of 27 July (2007!). Obviously the date maybe a guess, so don't get your hopes up too much.