ShadowNate
Member
Well gamers who played and loved the original version of games that get rebooted or "remastered-but-with-removed-content" or updated-with-removed-content, certainly are.
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There is a lot of OLD MAN YELLING AT CLOUD vibe here
VN1X
Banned
You certainly don't seem to act like it though...
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I don't think that's his angle. It's obvious there's a fuck lot of reactionary kneejerk posts. Everyone takes part in it once in their lifetime =P We've all done it .. It's just easier to take stuff at face value =) And I'm guessing at least 46.7310% of these posts are for shits and giggles.. Somewhat lol.
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bit_blaster
Neo Member
maybe I'm just jaded, but I welcome harsh honesty as long as it doesn't devolve into a flame war. I'm sick of circlejerks where anyone who happens to be critical or opinionated is automatically "toxic"
SquillieDee
Member
I'm 40 and I agree with you...
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Nah, I was being optimistic
What you're describing is a real thing that annoys me far more than I would like.
It seem, to me, that nowadays a good lot, whether on GAF and elsewhere is seemingly (subconsciously) seeking for whatever it is to unload on.. I do my best to filter through it, and depending on the day I couldn't care less..
Some days tho.....
And to be fair, I'm pretty sure I come across as a toxic pos more often than I'd like, but yeah, it's not like I wait for my good days to post here lol =P
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Duchess
Member
What the fuck did I just watch? Seriously, is this a game?
YeulEmeralda
Member
Yep and we're getting better sales too. In my time you only had the used section at your local game shop.
Werewolf Jones
Gold Member
All this for Saints Row. Lmfao. Who's assed? Trash game series anyway. Only slightly above yearly trash like CoD and FIFA.
LaughingStock
Member
OP is literally shaking.
MiguelItUp
Member
I'm not nearly as pessimistic as a lot of folks here can be. But, that Saint's Row game doesn't look "fresh", "new", and while technically a reboot, looks like a parody of itself. Not a piece of me thought, "Hell yeah, this looks cool" or anything similar. That shouldn't give off "old man yelling at cloud" vibes. 
It's a forum made up of quite a few different personalities, along with some trolls, unfortunately. But that's just how things go. I think a lot of people here are older, and remember bigger and better times in the industry. However, the past few years just feel a bit lacking for them. Hell, I know it has been for me. Especially in the realm of AAA. But I don't constantly talk about it because I don't want to drown in negativity, personally.
If you think this stuff looks cool, well, I'm happy for you. But that doesn't mean that the people that disagree are in the wrong.
It's a forum made up of quite a few different personalities, along with some trolls, unfortunately. But that's just how things go. I think a lot of people here are older, and remember bigger and better times in the industry. However, the past few years just feel a bit lacking for them. Hell, I know it has been for me. Especially in the realm of AAA. But I don't constantly talk about it because I don't want to drown in negativity, personally.
If you think this stuff looks cool, well, I'm happy for you. But that doesn't mean that the people that disagree are in the wrong.
Dr. Suchong
Member
Reminds me of Dawsons creek a bit.
And not a in a good way.
As if anything good could come from Dawsons creek. Bleh.
Dr. Suchong
Member
This.Not a piece of me thought, "Hell yeah, this looks cool" or anything similar. That shouldn't give off "old man yelling at cloud" vibes.
Isn't it just as reactionary to lazily respond with "Old man yells at cloud" or "Ok Boomer" when someone of a certain age laments on current trends?
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Again, I really don't get that from OP.
This "Woke" (I hate how they hijacked that word seeing what it represents now) "movement" is indeed cancerous, don't get me wrong. But inclusion is indeed necessary, or rather a natural aspect regarding our ever evolving mass consciousness while time goes on.
With that said, the way it's been handled (forcefully with the lingering stink of an agenda) is poor to say the least. I feel many can't distinguish between sincere intention (when handled in a *good* way) and those that use inclusion for brownie points/hip/agenda wise. If that makes sense.
Inclusion comes gradually, naturally even. But the way said inclusion is used in this context only hampers it's progression, sadly.
Personality, I guess, I feel sad that inclusivity is used for monetary gains, as well as a faux progressive viewpoint to amass power, in whichever way. It's so sad to witness a primary human aspect, which is Love, to be used for the above mentioned reasons.
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DevilMayFlyForAWhiteGuy
Member
In a way it’s the same as it ever was. Games like this new “Saints Row” and Redfall and others are chasing trends. A bunch of newer games are obviously trying to appeal to the Fortnite Crowd, much like games in the 360/PS3 era tried to appeal to the COD/Halo/Shooter crowd.
Games that get a fan base by being unique eventuality get homogenized by copying whatever the next big fad of a game is. See every shooter scrambling to add Battle Royale Modes in the past five years.
But do people not have the right to dislike how their favorite franchises get bastardized? Dead Space 1 and 2 are great, but EA meddling required the third game to be more of a shooter in order to “appeal to a wider audience.” This caused the series to die because it lost its unique appeal.
Saints Row gets a generic Fortnite art style and teenage PC-friendly characters to appeal to the tweens who spend their parents’ money on V-bucks. It’s far removed from what made the other games appealing to the fan base it garnered, but done so for perceived monetary reasons.
Homogenization of games and chasing trends is something I’ve been against/wary of since I started getting into games. If developers want to make something new, they should call it something else. Games like DMC exist because the devs wanted to make a more actiony Resident Evil game, so they developed it into a new IP. That’s much more preferable than slapping an established game’s name on a project that doesn’t resemble it’s namesake.
Games that get a fan base by being unique eventuality get homogenized by copying whatever the next big fad of a game is. See every shooter scrambling to add Battle Royale Modes in the past five years.
But do people not have the right to dislike how their favorite franchises get bastardized? Dead Space 1 and 2 are great, but EA meddling required the third game to be more of a shooter in order to “appeal to a wider audience.” This caused the series to die because it lost its unique appeal.
Saints Row gets a generic Fortnite art style and teenage PC-friendly characters to appeal to the tweens who spend their parents’ money on V-bucks. It’s far removed from what made the other games appealing to the fan base it garnered, but done so for perceived monetary reasons.
Homogenization of games and chasing trends is something I’ve been against/wary of since I started getting into games. If developers want to make something new, they should call it something else. Games like DMC exist because the devs wanted to make a more actiony Resident Evil game, so they developed it into a new IP. That’s much more preferable than slapping an established game’s name on a project that doesn’t resemble it’s namesake.
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Fake
Member
And this point don't matter the intention. The point is, 'you're wrong, I'm right' premisse. Get it? He can say many this he don't understand, but is a totally lie. He knows, just don't agree.
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I feel I'm missing something, only read the OP. And sorry for quoting you Fake. I used you remark to give my personal view/observation around a complex subject which is this Woke thing lol. Just talking into the void, nothing personal <3
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Praise you OP! Couldn't have been said better.
MikeM
Member
I must be progressive AF because I have played and loved FFVII on multiple occasions and also loved every minute of the FFVII Remake.
Hell- I love the DMC series- INCLUDING the remake version they made that everyone shits on.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
To me yall are the weird ones. Gaming/music/cinema? WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? Who's the new boogie man? What are you scared of?
martino
Member
And sometime (if not most) it's the reverse, people want to see easy agendas explanation where they are not because of huge political/values biases.
HotPocket69
Banned
There’s a lot of born after the year 2000 vibes here. Absolutely disgusting.
alabtrosMyster
Banned
Man, video games have done nothing but changing since the day they have existed. If anything the medium has stagnated and the content is more samey than ever before.
The woke thing is in part reactionary, but it's a bunch of new tropes based in hate and envy, so you should expect people to not be happy about it.
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Indeed. In any case it shows people are inclined to look for what they want to see I guess.. News at 11 =P
ShadowNate
Member
I don't really care to name people progressive or conservative. People tend to be protective of series they loved and hate it when they get radical changes.
There have been reboots that I also really liked. Doesn't change the fact that in general I'd be very wary (or even against) of changes to cater for "modern sensitivities" as it is so often put these days.
SafeOrAlone
Banned
Damn, OP seems like a cranky old man.
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mancstheps5fanboy
Banned
like literally.. right...(tries to act like a none boomer) what fk heAD came up with boomer? disgusting divisional shite on every fkin level isnt there.... i could not give one fkin fk , what you play as , if a game character , or premise does not appeal , do not fkin buy it!
now fk this thread , i'm banging my dress on and dancing to spice girls ...
now fk this thread , i'm banging my dress on and dancing to spice girls ...
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I've been watching you for quite a while now?
mancstheps5fanboy
Banned
fk me , ru a vampire? ohh your the psychic chick out of star trek... hmm hi babes....
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mancstheps5fanboy
Banned
i have been watching you for a while now?
is it a question , or a statement , i have to say , my sentences are pretty mind fkin , but you are taking creme atm....
is it a question , or a statement , i have to say , my sentences are pretty mind fkin , but you are taking creme atm....
mancstheps5fanboy
Banned
either way i'm taping my camera up whilst wanking over dirty porn....
anddddddd....
ummmm*looks out of window curtains , sweating*..
but seriously.
hey cheers , thanks for watching my shite , one love.
anddddddd....
ummmm*looks out of window curtains , sweating*..
but seriously.
hey cheers , thanks for watching my shite , one love.
mancstheps5fanboy
Banned
thinking bowt starting a youtube channel gaming , the fkersmake pure doh , i will keep you posted , hope u that weird rich arab kid who bangs a million on heads , nice one.
anyone with tips , give me a twitch.
anyone with tips , give me a twitch.
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mancstheps5fanboy
Banned
hahahahahaha , love it lol.
ever watch the african rebal on a game saying , i will come for you , to american lads pmfpl... yeah man , oh dat ninja huy on cos also , absolutely sick.
mancstheps5fanboy
Banned
the character on that game looks like craig human lol.
iHaunter
Member
Saints Row didn't "Evolve" it turned into a cringy woke tik-tok bullshit game. The "Essence" of what made it different is entirely gone. Now it's just a shitty GTA. Who wants that? May as well just play GTA no?
For example Returnal which is a new game is dope AF. It takes old school arcade shooters and puts it into a 3rd-person 3D bullet hell on an Alien Planet.
TheInfamousKira
Reseterror Resettler
I, for one, wholly support you and stand by this brave new world of pixel lesbian Uber brave progressive games starring the exact same black woman with a Boney M afro, teaching me the inherited evils of my ancestors for having a penis and passively taking part in the world and the social climate they were born into instead of being Gay Moses. I'm with you, dog.
M1chl
Currently Gif and Meme Champion
Gaf Gaming Discussion: Age of users
I can see old school gamers here, new gamers...Maybe u can guess their age by some comments, or their opinions about games. Just for curiosity! Vote!
You young whippersnappers with your HDR 6 billion colors and plug n'play game consoles just don't know the struggles us old timers had to deal with back when you had to edit the config.sys and autoexec files to sacrifice a couple of programs in order to free up a few K of memory to run the joystick while squinting at a 13" CRT screen that weighed 20 pounds and just got magnetized because your stupid kid brother was playing around with the speakers. We had 16-256 colors AND WE LIKED IT. Why you so intolerant of diverse ideas. Listen to our voices and hear us, this is a safe space, your ageist comments are hurtful and unwelcome.
EverydayBeast
thinks Halo Infinite is a new graphical benchmark
Criticism is a huge part of the gaming industry, but yes they have to let go of the yelling.
SaturnSaturn
Member
t. volition dev
also the highlighted parts is laughable, its devolved not evolved, gameplay today is way worse then it was 15-20 years ago mechanics wise, pick up any AA ps2 games and you have way more interesting mechanics, hell even pc games in the 90s where more advanced then they are now.
progression my ass, every game has the same generic artstyle with the same generic gameplay loop now, with mtx and shit mechanics dumbed down to appeal to as large of an audience as possible, and they have the audasity to charge 90-100$ for a new game where i live thats riddled with bugs and mtx, the industry is trash and i hope that it burns to the ground.
The biggest problem is that the games industry is they canceled all the older nerds that had a genuine passion for games, chased them out of the industry and just filled up on younger people that dont even like games to begin with, or have any proficiency in coding compared to older devs, the new guard would would rather make movies or do anything else with their time then work on games. and everything has to follow the same recipe not to offend anyone (note: this problem does not apply to eastern europe and asia.)
The industry is heading for a crash and thank god for that, maybe 2-3% of new games today are good the rest is just generic shit.
Anyone will have more fun with games from 15-20 years ago, its much more engaging.