unhuh ...and in 8 months time there'll be another sizable upgrade just around the corner ...might as well wait for that.
if you keep that mindset, you'll be waiting forever.
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Torn between building a new gaming PC or a PS4.
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unhuh ...and in 8 months time there'll be another sizable upgrade just around the corner ...might as well wait for that.
if you keep that mindset, you'll be waiting forever.
polyh3dron
Banned
I'd say a PS4 now and a PC 1 or 2 years down the line.. By then we will have games really pushing the limits of the PS4 and having subpar frame rates and such.. PCs of today may not be able to run those games at 1080p with 60FPS with all the bells and whistles but a PC with a couple of AMD's 10000 series or whatever they have at that time should be fine for anything from the next gen.
Nvidia and AMD's graphics card lines have been stagnating for the past couple years. Nvidia's 700 series is not that big of a leap from the 600s, and AMD's 9000 series may be a bit better, but IIRC they're going for a die shrink for the series after that and so is Nvidia which should bring huge gains on both sides. This is what famousmortimer is referring to.
I would go with this. Toss a GTX 760 in there and you'll be good to go for a while. You'll save a decent amount on games, and if you wait on the PS4 you can probably avoid any possible first run hardware issues and buy some exclusives at cheap prices.
I H8 Memes
Member
Well the Oculus Rift is the future of gaming. And if you want to play games using the OR you are going to need a gaming PC. You wouldn't want to regret going PS4 over a PC 2 years from now would you?
So, this thread has no point.
The exclusive games interest you, and the PC games you want are also on it.
Sir Garbageman
Member
This is what I'm doing.
famousmortimer
Banned
Right... but the stuff that is out now but really expensive is a huge step up from what's inside a PS4. The generation after that will be as well... but at some point you need to jump. Do you jump now and end up either paying a shitload of money or getting something cheaper that is comparable to a ps4....? Or do you wait a year and buy something cheaper that is much more powerful than a PS4.
To me the answer is easy.
Acquiescence
Member
Sounds to me like getting a PS4 would be in your best interests OP.
Oppo
Member
This is the calculation made, FWIW, OP.
Next year will be ideal. Plus this when the Rift will a tally be ready.
VanillaCakeIsBurning
Member
I bought consoles for last gen before I bought a new PC.
Due to the way that PC parts get better as time goes on the more cost effective approach would be to buy the PS4 first since you won't have to worry about upgrading till the next generation.
Enjoy playing exclusives or whatever it is you want then some point down the line get a new PC once there are actual games you want to play on it + better parts now being available.
Due to the way that PC parts get better as time goes on the more cost effective approach would be to buy the PS4 first since you won't have to worry about upgrading till the next generation.
Enjoy playing exclusives or whatever it is you want then some point down the line get a new PC once there are actual games you want to play on it + better parts now being available.
I'm a little cash poor right now, so my gameplan is to buy a PS4 and a game or two at launch, use gamefly to play other titles, and save 20-50 dollars a month to build a good PC rig. When I have around $1K saved up I'll see what the best bang for my buck is. Perhaps this would be a good route for you to go as well.
this is such a load of shit it's ridiculous.
Zoso
It's been a long time, been a long time, been a long lonely lonely lonely lonely lonely time.
I just had this exact dilemma, and I chose to build a PC.
I concluded that 90% of the games I'm likely to play will be available for every platform. The deciding factor for me was seeing how huge the gap was between third party games on PC & console, the excellent modding communities, and the insane deals during the Steam summer sale. I picked up over 15 games for the same price as a new $60 game. It's madness.
I just got done modding GTAIV and with an ENB & HD textures and it looks more next gen than anything I've seen on the new consoles. In 20 minutes I was able to mod Oblivion to eliminate level scaling and add unique landscapes all over Cyrodiil. It feels like magic. I wish I had gotten into PC gaming earlier.
I am still interested in a PS4, but won't consider buying one until there are enough exclusives to make it tempting.
I concluded that 90% of the games I'm likely to play will be available for every platform. The deciding factor for me was seeing how huge the gap was between third party games on PC & console, the excellent modding communities, and the insane deals during the Steam summer sale. I picked up over 15 games for the same price as a new $60 game. It's madness.
I just got done modding GTAIV and with an ENB & HD textures and it looks more next gen than anything I've seen on the new consoles. In 20 minutes I was able to mod Oblivion to eliminate level scaling and add unique landscapes all over Cyrodiil. It feels like magic. I wish I had gotten into PC gaming earlier.
I am still interested in a PS4, but won't consider buying one until there are enough exclusives to make it tempting.
OldAsUrSock
Banned
You must also include the cost of games and Playstation Plus when you are getting a PS4.
TouchMyBox
Member
PC is always a good choice, and consoles are never anything to get excited about until two years into their life, so PC sounds pretty dandy.
Plus if you've never really been into the PC as a gaming platform, that means there will be plenty of stuff that you haven't played yet.
Plus if you've never really been into the PC as a gaming platform, that means there will be plenty of stuff that you haven't played yet.
AMD and Nvidia will still both be at 28nm with their next set of releases.
Oppo
Member
It's not a total load of shit. Yes PC will always have the upper hand but the way devs will target the average (highest population) level of power, it makes sense. PCs don't all magically upgrade at the same time even when the ceiling goes up.
I can't miss Infamous: SS in the spring. I can't.TouchMyBox said:
I hate to call just you out here, but a high end PC is considerably more powerful than a PS4 already.
SneakyStephan
Banned
Do you want to pay more for your games, pay to play online, not be able to play at 60 fps or 1080p in many games, not be able to turn off bloom, chromatic abberation and blur , not be able to fix the fov , be forced to use a controller?
If you said yes to all of these, then you should definitely buy a ps4
If you said yes to all of these, then you should definitely buy a ps4
Anticitizen One
Banned
Get a playstation
your not going to be able to play killzone, driveclub, infamous, Naughty Dog and Santa Monica's new games, etc. on PC
your not going to be able to play killzone, driveclub, infamous, Naughty Dog and Santa Monica's new games, etc. on PC
TouchMyBox
Member
Yeah, the more accurate comparison would be to try and run current games on an 8800GT.
Which, as it turns out is absolutely fine if your point of comparison is the PS3.
Also, the 7800 was a relic when it launched and didn't have unified shaders.
It's possible I will become weak to Second Son. I loved infamous and sly so much but infamous ran like hot garbage on the PS3 and can really stand to benefit from new hardware.
Oppo
Member
I love that you guys exist you do all the legwork for me when I'm trying to figure out which particular jigsaw puzzle or set of hoops I need to jump through just to get Tomb Raider to not constantly crash.
Two edges to that sword, is all I'm getting at. Easy for experts to forget that fact.
Rogue_Ledr
Banned
Yeah, I would get the PS4 first.
Then save up and buy the PC later.
Give ya more time tyo wait for the right hardware. I was actually going to buy a new PC too, but Im getting the PS4 first.
Then save up and buy the PC later.
Give ya more time tyo wait for the right hardware. I was actually going to buy a new PC too, but Im getting the PS4 first.
I dont see how anyone could regret going with a nice PC. Do you all realize that you can do way, WAY, more than just game on a PC right? Everything that is hype for consoles now is standard (and works extremely well) on PC. Streaming, watching tv, whatever...
I would say get a PC and wait a couple years till PS4 works out the kinks and gets some super dope exclusives.
I would say get a PC and wait a couple years till PS4 works out the kinks and gets some super dope exclusives.
Evolution_1ne
Banned
one cost 400 dollars and one would cost over 1000 choose wisely
Sentenza
Member
Let me premise that even as someone who thinks about the PC as his primary gaming device, I have doubts myself that this could not be a good moment to buy a new PC (which is annoying to me, because that's exactly what I'm tempted to do, as my system is closing his sixth year in few months and I'm craving to update it).
That said, I don't get why a lot of people in this thread, including many "PC supporters", keep putting this choice in terms of "If you want every game go PS4, if you can give up on PS4 exclusives try PC" as if going for a PC there weren't a fair amount of very appealing exclusives as well.
To me it's not even about which system is more powerful, frankly. I want a new PC exactly because there are a lot of very interesting things coming *for* PC.
A PC is what I'm going to need to play a new Torment, Project Eternity, Star Citizen, Oculus Rift stuff, Warhammer Total War and a lot more.
A PC is the only one where I can play shooters (and more) with M&KB.
Mods and custom settings will be a prerogative of PC gaming even going into the next get.
Plus, of course, that overwhelming majority of multiplatform titles that every platform is going to get anyway.
It's not like I haven't considered buying a PS4 as well, by the way. But so far I'm having a very hard time justifying that kind of purchase to myself, especially because it would be far too expensive as primary gaming device.
Sure, the hardware is cheaper upfront, but at the rate I usually "consume" new games I'm a little concerned about how much more I would end spending in one year or two in software.
That said, I don't get why a lot of people in this thread, including many "PC supporters", keep putting this choice in terms of "If you want every game go PS4, if you can give up on PS4 exclusives try PC" as if going for a PC there weren't a fair amount of very appealing exclusives as well.
To me it's not even about which system is more powerful, frankly. I want a new PC exactly because there are a lot of very interesting things coming *for* PC.
A PC is what I'm going to need to play a new Torment, Project Eternity, Star Citizen, Oculus Rift stuff, Warhammer Total War and a lot more.
A PC is the only one where I can play shooters (and more) with M&KB.
Mods and custom settings will be a prerogative of PC gaming even going into the next get.
Plus, of course, that overwhelming majority of multiplatform titles that every platform is going to get anyway.
It's not like I haven't considered buying a PS4 as well, by the way. But so far I'm having a very hard time justifying that kind of purchase to myself, especially because it would be far too expensive as primary gaming device.
Sure, the hardware is cheaper upfront, but at the rate I usually "consume" new games I'm a little concerned about how much more I would end spending in one year or two in software.
Vulcano's assistant
Banned
PS4 first, unless you don't have any gaming PC whatsoever.
Canis lupus
Member
PS4
I would wait on the pc until you can get Titan/HD7990 performance in a single gpu for 3-400 bucks with more vram.
I would wait on the pc until you can get Titan/HD7990 performance in a single gpu for 3-400 bucks with more vram.
Didn't know supercharged PC has to tweak down BF4 to get it running properly. If there are problems already, what about in 2-3 years? *shivers*
PC all the way, son. Also, Oculus fucking Rift.
PeakPointMatrix
Member
Or a year of PS+ meaning dozens of free full games.
PS4 now, and PC in a year or two. The PC hardware prices will all decrease anyway the longer you wait. And as more powerful components are released, you'll have the option of building a beefier machine if you so choose, while the PS4 keeps you busy.
The games will run remarkably better? Devs will have gotten used to the hardware on top of proper optimization. When have console visuals ever gone backwards from launch?
So will the PS4's price.
cobragt4001
Banned
PC first, ps4 later. When the ps4 hits, the early models could very well suck ie overheating, hardware issues. I never get the first batch of electronics, even when new gpus and cpus roll out I will wait a few months before biting. I don't mind being a beta tester for games but beta testing for hardware is a no no because a patch can't fixed a bricked electronic. Build the PC, use it as a PC is intended then get the ps4, win win.
There's a good reason to wait this time = Oculus Rift.
By the time the retail version comes out, the upgrade will be a bigger boost for the money spent, therefore making the most out of Oculus Rift.
So like I said before, buy PS4 now, wait until Oculus Rift for a upgrade, well that's what I'm doing anyway.
SneakyStephan
Banned
Did you like... live in a cave during the current gen?
Framerates went down, screentearing increased, draw distances went down, pop up increased.
Sentenza
Member
We are entering Bizarro World now.
Haunted
Member
Apophis2036
Banned
I actually gave far more advice than the nine words you chose to quote...
Sentenza
Member
You claimed quite explicitly that if you are not a graphic whore there's no reason to not choose a console.
Which is bullshit, regardless of what you added later trying to make this senseless premise sound reasonable.