Conflating the two situations is grossly dishonest. Intention and context makes all the difference.
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Trump on Putin's alleged killing of journalists: "At least he's a leader!"
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Conflating the two situations is grossly dishonest. Intention and context makes all the difference.
BennyBlanco
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I am not endorsing murdering your critics, putin runs his country like a mobster. Just used that to illustrate that the US is doing shady shit all the time too.
https://theintercept.com/drone-papers/
Maybe the awful drone strikes would've been a better illustration of recent american assassination clusterfucks.
The first link says "Trump on Putin's alleged killing of journalists: 'At least he's a leader'" Unless you meant the second link?
No, old racist people in the countryside want fascism. Most people who aren't old and stupid and live in the middle of nowhere watching Fox News all the time do not. Unfortunately, our political and social systems are so fucking broken at this point that the opinion of those nut-cases matter a lot more than that of anyone else.
Maybe 12-15% of Americans are like this.
Note to the world: only 25% of Americans identify as Republican... so when you see stuff like "30% of Republicans believe Obama is made of french toast and nazis" a least do the Math before you sterotype. Same with polls showing support for Trump.
Is it still gross? Yes... but it's still a small loud minority.
Lonewolf_92
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There's an obvious difference between accidentally killing a civilian in a warzone, and assassinating one because he's critical of your governance. Come on, it's not even close to the same thing.
Tallshortman
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What point is there to make in this context? The question is about domestic authoritarianism, not foreign policy if that's what you're trying to get at. If we consider death just an entire broad topic to be lumped together then sure.
This is the exact argument people use against Muslims.
Looks like you can get 15% of anyone to agree with something idiotic.
Scary times. I really hope Republicans wake up and change course soon.
Yes they really do. Most Americans seem completely fine with losing freedoms at a rapid pace. No one seems to care, for example, that they lost most of their privacy in just a few short years. It's scary for the rest of us who still have a functioning brain.
No you are making false equivalence after false equivalence. Does the American government kill journalists? No? Great, then the situations aren't the same.
If you want to talk about the shady shit with drones and other military fubars be my guest. I don't think this is the thread though.
EatinOlives
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Trump caves like a cheap tent when his mancrush compliments him.
And he's supposed to be the only one who can be "tough" in negotiations. Fuck outta here. Putin's playing him like a fiddle and he's not even fucking president.
And he's supposed to be the only one who can be "tough" in negotiations. Fuck outta here. Putin's playing him like a fiddle and he's not even fucking president.
He's pushing a far-right agenda so it's nothing surprising that he supports what is close to a far-right country today. Look also at what Victor Orban actually does in his country. The support for Putin on the themes of authority(tarism?), (democrator?)leadership, reducing immigration and attacking muslims is strong in the european political parties that are surprisingly only at the far-right of the spectrum and are financed and/or strongly supported by Putin and his friends (see Marine Le Pen in France).
and when you look at how these polls are made...well it doesn't mean anything. Those are polls and questions for clickbait websites and sharing on social media, not polls to better understand what think citizens and voters. (but why would you understand and analysis, I better retweet that funny buzzfeed article about how republicans are dumb lol)
and when you look at how these polls are made...well it doesn't mean anything. Those are polls and questions for clickbait websites and sharing on social media, not polls to better understand what think citizens and voters. (but why would you understand and analysis, I better retweet that funny buzzfeed article about how republicans are dumb lol)
IdreamofHIME
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GOP should try and get Putin as their candidate.
EricTheCleric
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Trump will get an even bigger share on RT after this.
And the naive fools watching RT will lap it up like little kittens.
And the naive fools watching RT will lap it up like little kittens.
take a look at the growth of fascist/racist voters in Europe and you might change your mind
Calm waterfall
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Trump is endorsing murder, and that does not seem like such large a stretch.
You are on the wrong internet
That was an accident, we're talking killing journalists to silence them. Nobody killed US journalist because they reported on the bombings.
Anti-war protesters have been assassinated in Russia, can you say the same of the US?
That is why the GOP hate him, he is them without the smoke and mirrors and dogwhistling
This is a lazy argument the two situations are clearly not directly comparable, you went for some lame "take that" and failed miserably.
Astral Dog
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Well he IS the healthiest presidential candidate around.
Ravensmash
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America in 2015 has a presidential candidate who endorses killing journalists.
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