Bo_Hazem
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Have both 8-bit and 10-bit content, and have like a 4K@60fps and 4K@30fps games in a flash memory and test the tv's on the spot.
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TV's Vs Monitors, and Why TV's Make Much More Sense for Next Gen Consoles
Have both 8-bit and 10-bit content, and have like a 4K@60fps and 4K@30fps games in a flash memory and test the tv's on the spot.
Bo_Hazem
Banned
If you already have a decent 4K HDR tv, no need to rush. And it won't hurt to wait like for few months and see what the new models will offer.
bargeparty
Member
It's not burn in. There's an avsforum thread dedicated to OLED screen uniformity: https://www.avsforum.com/threads/ol...and-vignetting.2896737/page-487#post-60099290
Example: Hopefully this link goes right to the image
OLED Screen Uniformity Discussion-Banding and Vignetting
www.avsforum.com
Another example:
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Bo_Hazem
Banned
It's not burn in. There's an avsforum thread dedicated to OLED screen uniformity: https://www.avsforum.com/threads/ol...and-vignetting.2896737/page-487#post-60099290
Example: Hopefully this link goes right to the image
OLED Screen Uniformity Discussion-Banding and Vignetting
Another example:
This only proves that there is no perfect tv, you need to pick your poison.
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bargeparty
Member
This only proves that there is no perfect tv, you need to pick your poison.
Eh. I think it's more about the manufacturing process, since some people have posted images of pretty clean panels.
Just means that LG has cornered the market and doesn't really care to fix the issues.
You can argue there is no perfect tv, but at $2000 and up we shouldn't be settling for this kind of QC.
Bo_Hazem
Banned
Indeed, panel lottery can be tolerated for budget tv's, but when passing beyond $2000 quality control should be in check. I personally trust Sony in that regard, doesn't mean they don't have issues but been happy with their products.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
So far really enjoying the LG 27GN950.
Super clean image with this IPS panel just not great contrast.
Kind of cool has an RGB light on the back that can be set to any color for ambient lighting or change colors and move in different patterns.
Can set it to react to sounds display on screen which is kind of cool in games especially World of Tanks firing the tank looks like a mini explosion behind the screen and in Rocket League when you score it does a little celebration of lights depending what color team you are on.
Can also set it to match the colors on screen just to add a little immersion which is the one I mainly use but only about 50% brightness.
Have it running on the pc 4k 144hz and it works perfectly with the Xbox current 1440p 120hz update.
Here is the lighting and it does have a fan but its very quiet.
Super clean image with this IPS panel just not great contrast.
Kind of cool has an RGB light on the back that can be set to any color for ambient lighting or change colors and move in different patterns.
Can set it to react to sounds display on screen which is kind of cool in games especially World of Tanks firing the tank looks like a mini explosion behind the screen and in Rocket League when you score it does a little celebration of lights depending what color team you are on.
Can also set it to match the colors on screen just to add a little immersion which is the one I mainly use but only about 50% brightness.
Have it running on the pc 4k 144hz and it works perfectly with the Xbox current 1440p 120hz update.
Here is the lighting and it does have a fan but its very quiet.
Bo_Hazem
Banned
So far really enjoying the LG 27GN950.
Super clean image with this IPS panel just not great contrast.
Kind of cool has an RGB light on the back that can be set to any color for ambient lighting or change colors and move in different patterns.
Can set it to react to sounds display on screen which is kind of cool in games especially World of Tanks firing the tank looks like a mini explosion behind the screen and in Rocket League when you score it does a little celebration of lights depending what color team you are on.
Can also set it to match the colors on screen just to add a little immersion which is the one I mainly use but only about 50% brightness.
Have it running on the pc 4k 144hz and it works perfectly with the Xbox current 1440p 120hz update.
Here is the lighting and it does have a fan but its very quiet.
That explosion part sounds crazy! I love those kinda gimmicks!
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
Yeah its kind of cool when my tank was destroyed it literally looked like a fire raging behind the monitor glowing on my wall.
Bo_Hazem
Banned
That's actually sounds like fun! It could be synced with the PC RGB's, right?
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
Havent tried syncing it to my PC since its more hidden.
I also have the Logitech 560 speakers on another PC going to hook them up as well and see if I can get it all synced for shits and giggles.
Bo_Hazem
Banned
Man PC gaming is full of RGB's.
Now at least you know what I use my gaming PC for, to crush 4K footage up to 500-600fps with ease, with much more room to go further.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
Bo_Hazem
Banned
Intersting. Would love to see both consoles support 4K@120Hz even for 30fps games, that should bring those advertised low input lags like the 7.2ms from Sony XH90.
Soodanim
Gold Member
An actual use for RGB lighting, that's nice.So far really enjoying the LG 27GN950.
Super clean image with this IPS panel just not great contrast.
Kind of cool has an RGB light on the back that can be set to any color for ambient lighting or change colors and move in different patterns.
Can set it to react to sounds display on screen which is kind of cool in games especially World of Tanks firing the tank looks like a mini explosion behind the screen and in Rocket League when you score it does a little celebration of lights depending what color team you are on.
Can also set it to match the colors on screen just to add a little immersion which is the one I mainly use but only about 50% brightness.
Have it running on the pc 4k 144hz and it works perfectly with the Xbox current 1440p 120hz update.
Here is the lighting and it does have a fan but its very quiet.
I've always been interested in the idea of responsive lighting, and I looked into Philips' tech but it's so limited in terms of their PC-only boxes. The TVs with Ambilight built in are from what I understand better than external boxes that need to try and read whatever content is flying through them, but I don't know what the sets themselves are like.
Consumer
Member
My current TV is a 1080p 32" Dynex I got gifted many years ago. It sucks ass, and I'm not just saying that because people make fun of it -- the colors are actually fucked up (washed out) and small text is difficult to read. Even my ancient VGA monitor looks miles better. No amount of Settings tuning has helped...
Anyway, I've decided to upgrade for the Ps5, but I'm on a student budget (~$800 CAD) so surely I'll have to make some sacrifices. I don't know much beyond the HDMI 2.1 buzzwords, so I'll need some guidance...
What features should I NOT miss out on? 120Hz? 4k + quality HDR? VRR? ALLM?
I game at a desk, on a chair. Wouldn't a monitor be cheaper & more practical? Or am I likely to be underwhelmed by its pseudo-HDR?
Am I better off just waiting and enduring a shitty Ps5 experience on my Dynex in the interem? If so, for how long?
Anyway, I've decided to upgrade for the Ps5, but I'm on a student budget (~$800 CAD) so surely I'll have to make some sacrifices. I don't know much beyond the HDMI 2.1 buzzwords, so I'll need some guidance...
What features should I NOT miss out on? 120Hz? 4k + quality HDR? VRR? ALLM?
I game at a desk, on a chair. Wouldn't a monitor be cheaper & more practical? Or am I likely to be underwhelmed by its pseudo-HDR?
Am I better off just waiting and enduring a shitty Ps5 experience on my Dynex in the interem? If so, for how long?
Bo_Hazem
Banned
For that money, wait for black friday as Sony XH90 55" should drop to that range, I think. 4K@120Hz is not about only 120fps, but fast input lag. You should get all of them at a budget tv price with Sony XH90 (X900H).
Bo_Hazem
Banned
No idea, mate. But that is a solid TV to keep using, though.
Yoboman
Member
Is this the same?
They seem to call it X9000 in Australia but maybe I'm looking at the wrong model
Kerotan
Member
The TV is 100% I'm just floating the idea of trading it to buy an x900h or next year's model which has hdmi 2.1. That's all really.
Rocco Schiavone
Member
Don't know why people recommend the Sony. Low dimming zone count and low hdr peak brightness. I guess the price point is the main key factor here.
Bo_Hazem
Banned
Yup, here they call it the same, X9000H
Same here!
Price, being LCD, accurate color and image, and highly praised by reviewers.
Kerotan
Member
Is it a common thing for TVs to be traded in or look for an upgrade with the retailer? My set is in pristine condition and 12 months old.
Bo_Hazem
Banned
I usually repurpose then or give them to a family/frieds or charity. I think you can sell it on Amazon/eBay?
RasAlGhoul
Member
75 inches of Sony X900 have officially replaced the OLED. Man it’s wonderful to game without OLED stutter again.
NeoIkaruGAF
Gold Member
Is this true? Other people with this TV said it stutters anyway due to fast refresh. Even the Rtings.com review ranks it quite low for stutter.
Bo_Hazem
Banned
Congrats, mate!
For stutter, Rtings.com gave LG C9 5/10, LG CX 4.8/10, and Sony X900H 7/10.
RasAlGhoul
Member
I can only speak for my eyes. And I would get headaches playing 30fps games on my OLED after some time. I need to test out a couple more specific problem games. But so far so good. I’ll report back once I get some TLOU2 and Destiny 2 time.
NeoIkaruGAF
Gold Member
Duh. I could swear they gave it no more than a 6. My mistake.
cormack12
Gold Member
So, what's the deal with looking for a TV now? The main in my living room is currently a 55 inch LG (https://www.displayspecifications.com/en/model/4bde875)
I've upgraded the smaller TV's upstairs to more modern displays with HDR10/4k, they are 37 and 42 inches. I can't decide which TV to stick downstairs. I'm not looking for top end. Current model doesn't have HDR. I odn't care about keeping 3D. The same size is fine (55 inch). I've so far looked at the CX but the nightmare stories about panel uniformity make me pause. I've seen the Sammy Q80T but it's LED which I have now. I'd rather avoid LCD.
What are my options here? I'd like to keep it round £1200
I've upgraded the smaller TV's upstairs to more modern displays with HDR10/4k, they are 37 and 42 inches. I can't decide which TV to stick downstairs. I'm not looking for top end. Current model doesn't have HDR. I odn't care about keeping 3D. The same size is fine (55 inch). I've so far looked at the CX but the nightmare stories about panel uniformity make me pause. I've seen the Sammy Q80T but it's LED which I have now. I'd rather avoid LCD.
What are my options here? I'd like to keep it round £1200
Bo_Hazem
Banned
My recommendations consist of LG CX/C9 and Sony XH90. Good new for you, XH90 is mid-tier budget LCD tv loaded with all needed features for next gen gaming (HDMI 2.1 firmware update to be released around PS5/XSX release date, I think, to activate all the feature set). It's exactly at your price range, and could get cheaper if you wait a but longer as well:
Codes of the variants so you don't get confused:
XH9005 / XH9096 / XH9296
I'm getting one, personally.
RasAlGhoul
Member
I can further confirm I don’t have the stutter issues I dealt with in TLOU2 and Destiny 2 on the OLED with the Sony 900H. Very happy with my purchase 1 day in.
Next up Mario 3D All Stars.
Next up Mario 3D All Stars.
Bo_Hazem
Banned
Many TV experts have been praising its motion handling. Overall, Sony is the best in terms of color accuracy, upscaling, motion handling and overall picture accuracy and processing. The rest are great as well but it's a bit ahead.
cormack12
Gold Member
Is that standard LED? OR OLED?
Bo_Hazem
Banned
Full Array LED.
No burn in concerns or stutter issues. Go to youtube and check the reviews of Sony X900H (XH90), or check the ones we've already posted pages behind.
cormack12
Gold Member
Full Array LED.
Tempted to hit 'purchase' now haha. After securing PS5 preorder. Expensive week......might try hold off until next month. Ill go and read about the latency and input lag in the meantime.
But it would be cool to enjoy my playstation on my brand new.....playstation tv
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
Its really a great TV and has become my daily driver so to speak over my 77" C9 just because I tend to leave my TV on a lot and now I dont have to worry about burn in
Bo_Hazem
Banned
Here:
Firmware update will unlock 4K@120Hz, VRR, ALLM, eARC. Input lag so far is as low as 7.2ms in 1080p@120Hz without even HDMI 2.1, so expect around 7-5ms for 4K@120Hz mode, HDR with VRR. It's 15.1ms for 4K@60fps mode now until it gets the update for higher refresh rate/input lag.
Sony X900H Review (XBR55X900H, XBR65X900H, XBR75X900H, XBR85X900H)
The Sony X900H, also sold as the X90CH at Costco, is a great 4k TV for nearly any type of content. It has a VA panel with an excellent contrast ratio and a full-...
www.rtings.com
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RasAlGhoul
Member
It really is. It doesn’t have the pop you get from an OLED but it gets pretty damn close and it has its own benefits like no burn in worry and lack of stutter.
NeoIkaruGAF
Gold Member
That’s good to hear.
XH90 is currently discounted in Italy, goes for €999 for the 55” model. I’m gonna wait til Black Friday before I decide if it’s worth it to get one and see the differences with the C9 in person at last.
Captn
Member
LG CX 48 inches available now in Canada! Preordered one fuck yeah!!
Going to also use it as my main PC monitor!
For my fellow Canadians interested!
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Going to also use it as my main PC monitor!
For my fellow Canadians interested!
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KURDISTAN YPG
Member
ok fellas help me decide my path, i sold my 65: bravia to my brother for 300 dollars
i have perfect excuse to get new tv now
lg cx oled 12ms
sony x900 7ms
lg nano
im thinking sony!!! but shit that cx looking good and is OLED
i have perfect excuse to get new tv now
lg cx oled 12ms
sony x900 7ms
lg nano
im thinking sony!!! but shit that cx looking good and is OLED
Bo_Hazem
Banned
LG CX = Perfect blacks and clean image / burn in, stutter, more expensive.
Sony X900H = Durable and cheaper and great motion clarity / grayish blacks in comparison.
LG CX does around 5.9ms for 1080p with VRR, 6.9ms 1080p@120Hz, but 11.1ms at 4K@120Hz (not available yet on X900H, update needed to activate HDMI 2.1 features).
X900H is 7.2ms at 1080p@120Hz, honestly, it doesn't matter we should just care about 4K. So don't get confused about input lag and check rtings.com for better comparison.
LG nano? Don't touch it.
Barneyco
Member
There's the price difference also depending on the size you're getting. I would get OLED but I use my TV as a computer screen also. I'm not gonna take a chance with the burn in.
Bo_Hazem
Banned
Me too, and if I would get an OLED, I would rather go for Sony OLED for color/picture accuracy for productivity proposes on PC.
Ulysses 31
Member
Rocco Schiavone
Member
I will pick up the Asus HDMI 2.1 43 Inch monitor or the Samsung Q90T.
My question If you watch 4K movies.
Some TV's support HDR, HDR10, HDR10+, HLG, Dolby Vision.
What does monitors support and will there be problems watching 4k uhds??
My question If you watch 4K movies.
Some TV's support HDR, HDR10, HDR10+, HLG, Dolby Vision.
What does monitors support and will there be problems watching 4k uhds??
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Bo_Hazem
Banned
Give us the exact model (monitor), as many 4K panels are actually 8-but panels. I would go for Q90T personally, bet let's read more about that monitor. Games will most likely continue with HDR10, which is supported everywhere.
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