The update is pretty clear, it's just PC Gamer misunderstanding the original text.
So only the ESRB's rating matters. Which basically means only the tiniest amount of odd sex games is actually banned, and Witcher 3 and GTA V are fine.
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Twitch bans Adults Only games
- Thread starter gai_shain
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People lie with their age anyway, so making it 18+ wouldn't do anything. In fact, they already have this option for the stream/chat and you can just click continue anyways. Actually, I saw people getting (IP) banned for admitting that they are under age in 18+ channels.
When was this screenshot taken, because I'm pretty sure you won't find these things anymore? And if you do, they will get banned pretty fast. They changed their policy about clothing and content that could be sexual some months ago. There was a channel, where a guy was twerking and his stream got shut down in like 10 seconds. It was all over Twitch and Twitter and I'm glad I didn't have to see it.
That being said... I think Twitch should go a step further and ban all the donation alerts, goals and top donater stuff on stream. Ever since Stream-Tip got released (or whatever else the add ons for OBS and X-Split are called) it has gotten absurd. If you want to give them money do it, but having your whole screen covered with that bullshit is terrible.
Adults Only games are verbotent, but borderline prostitution is still perfectly cool with Twitch:
When was this screenshot taken, because I'm pretty sure you won't find these things anymore? And if you do, they will get banned pretty fast. They changed their policy about clothing and content that could be sexual some months ago. There was a channel, where a guy was twerking and his stream got shut down in like 10 seconds. It was all over Twitch and Twitter and I'm glad I didn't have to see it.
That being said... I think Twitch should go a step further and ban all the donation alerts, goals and top donater stuff on stream. Ever since Stream-Tip got released (or whatever else the add ons for OBS and X-Split are called) it has gotten absurd. If you want to give them money do it, but having your whole screen covered with that bullshit is terrible.
Hatred doesn't have an ESRB rating.
Doesn't matter what's on their Steam page, since developrs can enter info there themselves, the ESRB website does not have the game at all.
No guesswork needed, these are the games getting blocked:
Any other developer claiming to have an AO game is bullshitting, as piece of shit developers will often do, until the rating is actually granted.
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ef - a fairy tale of the two
Windows PC Blood, Nudity, Sexual Violence, Strong Language, Strong Sexual Content None MangaGamer
Rating Summary: This is a visual novel/adventure game in which players follow the story of a young couple discussing the events of their lives. Players follow along with the story and make decisions at key points in order to further the plot. The game includes...
Seduce Me
Mac, Windows PC Strong Sexual Content, Nudity, Strong Language, Use of Drugs None No Reply Games
Manhunt 2
Windows PC Blood and Gore, Intense Violence, Strong Language, Strong Sexual Content, Use of Drugs None Rockstar Games
Playboy the Mansion: Private Party
Windows PC Nudity, Strong Sexual Content None Groove Media Inc.
Lula 3D
Windows PC Blood, Nudity, Strong Language, Strong Sexual Content, Violence None CDV Software Entertainment USA
Fahrenheit: Indigo Prophecy Director's Cut: PC CD ROM
Windows PC Blood, Nudity, Strong Language, Strong Sexual Content, Use of Drugs and Alcohol, Violence None Atari
Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas (AO version only)
Windows PC, PlayStation 2, Xbox Blood and Gore, Intense Violence, Nudity, Strong Language, Strong Sexual Content, Use of Drugs None Rockstar Games
Leisure Suit Larry: Magna Cum Laude Uncut and Uncensored
Windows PC Mature Humor, Nudity, Strong Language, Strong Sexual Content, Use of Alcohol None Vivendi Games
Singles
Windows PC Nudity, Strong Sexual Content None Eidos Interactive
Peak Entertainment Casinos
Online, Windows PC Gambling None Peak Entertainment NV
Critical Point
Windows PC Strong Sexual Content, Violence None Peach Princess
Tokimeki Checkin!
Windows PC Strong Sexual Content None Peach Princess
Water Closet: The Forbidden Chamber
Windows PC Strong Sexual Content None Peach Princess
Snow Drop
Windows PC Strong Sexual Content None Peach Princess
X-Change
Windows PC Strong Sexual Content None Peach Princess
Thrill Kill
PlayStation/PS one Animated Blood and Gore, Animated Violence None Virgin
All Nude Nikki
Mac, Windows PC Strong Sexual Content None MacDaddy Entertainment
Body Language
DVD Strong Sexual Content None NUTECH DIGITAL
Riana Rouge
Mac, Windows PC Realistic Blood and Gore, Strong Sexual Content None Black Dragon
WET - The Sexy Empire
Windows PC Strong Sexual Content None CDV Software Entertainment USA
All Nude Glamour
Mac, Windows PC Strong Sexual Content None MacDaddy Entertainment
All Nude Cyber
Mac, Windows PC Strong Sexual Content None MacDaddy Entertainment
Cyber Photographer
Mac, Windows PC Strong Sexual Content None MacDaddy Entertainment
The Joy Of Sex
CDI Strong Sexual Content None Philips Media
Playboy Screensaver :The Women Of Playboy
Mac Mature Sexual Themes None Sony Imagesoft
Crystal Fantasy
Mac, Windows PC Strong Sexual Content None MacDaddy EntertainmentAny other developer claiming to have an AO game is bullshitting, as piece of shit developers will often do, until the rating is actually granted.
You didn't go on twitch recently, did you ? This still happen... generous cleavage... outfit.
Its their service so its their rules. They don't want to have to worry about age gating twitch for a few games. They obviously see a liability and are getting rid of it. The internet is not lacking places for AO content.
theSlacker
Member
I didn't even realize that this was a problem on twitch.
BibiMaghoo
Member
This is where I'm at. San Andreas seems an oddity, but for actual adult games, they should be banned for sure.
No, because anyone can watch them. It's not appropriate in my view, just like it wouldn't, or shouldn't in reality, be acceptable on Youtube or any other non-age restricted site that can be viewed from any device.
Here's the update from the PC Gamer article on that:
http://www.pcgamer.com/twitch-bans-adults-only-games/
There's also a handful of non-porn games on the AO list including a game who's sole content advisory listing is "Gambling"
Shit makes no sense, man
Edit:
It's filtering, actually.
This.
SprachBrooks
Member
Is The Witcher 3 AO?
I am and Twitch said several times, that they won't ban people for cleavage. It has to be something more sexual, in order to get banned. Topless male streamers are also not allowed anymore, but I'm well aware that they don't ban everyone for it. Especially, if they are partnered.
Wait--what about this directors cut made this game AO?
No, because regions are easily circumvented.
This is probably mostly just a statement to please advertisers. Twitch bans all Adult Only games, realizing full well that there are few if any games actually affected by it. Advertisers just see the message, don't realizes it means very little, and are just pleased Twitch is doing stuff to prevent their ads being in front of improper wins.
Everyone wins, nobody loses, except if you're somehow a fan of Playboy The Mansion and always streaming that game.
By that logic they should directly ban "mass murder" games like GTA franchise that doesn't have AO rating in US, but are 18+ according PEGI in EU. This RoC update banned handful of sex games that I have never even heard of.
From original Twitch RoC update, before added commentary;
http://blog.twitch.tv/2015/05/rules-of-conduct-update-adult-oriented-games/
It could have been misunderstanding and most likely was, but I think wording of that snippet should be more spelled out and clearer. Especially part I bolded is super awkwardly worded imo as it, at least to me, implies that if game is e.g. 18+ under PEGI I'm not allowed to stream it.
ESRB has rated GTA: San Andreas 4 times. 3 of them are M and 1 is AO, PC is under all 4 ratings. So what is rating for PC version and which is one Twitch looks at? "...such as Mature versions of Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas and Fahrenheit: Indigo Prophecy." is said in their update, but what is mature version of GTA: SA? Latest patched version I assume, or?
The director's cut includes the content that was removed when localizing the game to the US.
The cut content is described here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fahrenheit_(2005_video_game)#Release
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Personally, I don't like that peoole do this. In the case of women/girls that do this, they know the Internet's are willing to pay.Adults Only games are verbotent, but borderline prostitution is still perfectly cool with Twitch:
Not really
She removed a video where she got some light pants showing her whole g-string. She removed the video after some controversy happened in the Dota2 Community.
Vincent Grayson
Member
I can't wait for Hatred to come out and be forgotten so it can stop being a rallying point for a bunch of assholes. I keep seeing buzz everywhere that Twitch did this just to stop people from steaming Hatred, which I seriously doubt.
Backfoggen
Banned
It used to though. My guess is that they retracted the rating and went unrated so they could publish on Steam.
balladofwindfishes
Member
Does this change anything? I wasn't aware people ever streamed those games anyway.
Not really. In all likelihood this is to get in line with policies of the platforms they want to use. Console platform owners don't allow AO games on their systems so likely want this extended to streaming of games.
Adults Only games are verbotent, but borderline prostitution is still perfectly cool with Twitch:
This is a dumb post. Twitch manually polices their streams. Just last week Grandgrant was banned for streaming topless and he's a guy. He was only discovered because he was mocking other streamers on his stream.
I pity the horny lonely men that donate so much money just to get their name recognized by some moderately attractive girl.
Can't blame the girls, though. Such easy money.
It was a few days ago, and she does stuff like that regularly that I've seen.
SerTapTap
Member
They already banned explicit sexual content, so the only real change here is no GTA SA (which is stupid, ban people for showing the explicit content that REQUIRES MODDING to even access) and no Manhunt 2. Crazy few games get AO and most of them are sexual in nature, and most games that know they'll get an AO just don't submit to ratings boards because there really is no point at all (the only places that absolutely require ESRB ratings also don't allow AO so it's a waste of your time)
Much more reasonable than when that temporarily banned Senran Kagura Estival Versus without even knowing what it is (they called it a visual novel).
Much more reasonable than when that temporarily banned Senran Kagura Estival Versus without even knowing what it is (they called it a visual novel).
You can just claim to be streaming the M-rated PS3 version, no? ;p
Bad journalism, much like every site's report on Halo Online. The current version of SA isn't AO and the only AO MH2 is the PC version. You could stream the console versions.
SerTapTap
Member
Oh I know, just didn't think it was worth mentioning. But I and a LOT of people own the original PS2 version of SA and I can't imagine that many of us traded in our PS2 copies to get an M rated one. I doubt you can even tell just by looking at the game which one it is.
Surprise... Here comes the censoring.
How can Twitch censor a game? They are a private entity and decide what they service covers, that isn't censorship...
Also, you are aware AO games have always been barred from being on consoles, right?
Oh wow, that is hilariously sad if they don't have a rating, but know their 13 year old audience will lap that shit up.
partyphone
Banned
wait. we can't post nudity and sexual content on GAF!
CENSORSHIP!!!
CENSORSHIP!!!
We can't talk about certain
questionable
I demand Evilore face trial in the Hague this instant!
That's what I don't get. The only way to know which version it is would be if they actually modded it and streamed Hot Coffee. So it's really dumb.
Mind you as much as I have tried to clarify SA and how I feel it's being addressed is stupid, I have no issue with twitch having a no AO policy. I don't consider private company's having policies to be censorship or wrong, same as free speech laws exsist to keep the government from censoring,blocking , or prosecuting free speech, not to force private companies to allow people to do whatever they want.
I've seen several other people being banned for this and somebody slipping through the system can happen. They don't exactly have admins on 24h watch, but if you see it and find it inappropiate, then report it and an admin will show up. I think things like that are just awful for a game focused platform and you might think about start streaming on sites dedicated to that.
I don't know why they allow partners a little more room for things like that, but it's probably money and that's really sad.
Diablohead
Member
Twitch staff do not close down channels with reasonable sub counts because it makes them money, so this stuff still happens here and there.
Hell, twitch allow you to sit in front of a green screen and eat dinner before proposing to your loved one if you have subs, which is nothing to do with gaming or music at all.
And speaking of music only the other month they had a weekend of streaming some live concert with girls in bikinis bouncing everywhere and flashing tits, three or so admins were even in the chat user listing.
Adults Only games are verbotent, but borderline prostitution is still perfectly cool with Twitch:
Wasn't there a rule recently stating cleavage couldn't be shown on streams anymore?
I'd rather bans be discussed on a game to game basis but I guess there are enough banned AO games already and they decided to go all the way with the ban.
You're talking about ulra right? staff and admis were there some spamming in chat the same as users about nip slips and stuff
Mods were watching her stream, plus controversy happened. I highly doubt Admins/Mods doesn't know anything about her.
Anyways, is not like I care either.
GavinUK86
Member
Well that is ass backwards. Good going Twitch. Ban ultra violent games but still let certain streamers wear next to nothing.
Hitbox should really jump on this and advertise how open their service is.
"Come stream any game you want! We don't have silly rules like that other site".
Hitbox should really jump on this and advertise how open their service is.
"Come stream any game you want! We don't have silly rules like that other site".
Moderators are picked from users in her chatroom to moderate her chat they have no affiliation with twitch
benicillin
Banned
There are still rules against oversexualized clothing on stream, but there's no draconian dress code saying girls can't have cleavage or anything (nor should there be, this isn't school.) Banning adults-only games for streaming isn't any worse than Microsoft or Sony not allowing AO games on their platforms at all and that is a well-accepted practice, so I'm not sure what the problem is here.
Leafhopper
Banned
People on the Internet don't understand the definition of censorship and have a keyboard.
Leafhopper
Banned
They also don't know what "Freedom of Speech" means in it's use either.