Maybe they will decide to release some kind of add-on for that later?Gessle said:It could very well be the standard by 2008/2009, and by that time Revolution will still be around.
Maybe they will decide to release some kind of add-on for that later?Gessle said:It could very well be the standard by 2008/2009, and by that time Revolution will still be around.
Ruzbeh said:Maybe they will decide to release some kind of add-on for that later?
radioheadrule83 said:I still haven't seen a confirmation, what the fuck is everyone moaning for?
"It is accurate that at this time we will not support high-definition [on Revolution]," confirms Nintendo of America's vice president of corporate affairs, Perrin Kaplan.
"Nintendo's Revolution is being built with a variety of gamers' needs in mind, such as quick start-up time, high power, and ease of use for development and play. It's also compact and sleek, and has beautiful graphics in which to enjoy innovative games," Kaplan says. "Nintendo doesn't plan for the system to be HD compatible as with that comes a higher price for both the consumer and also the developer creating the game. Will it make the game better to play? With the technology being built into the Revolution, we believe the games will look brilliant and play brilliantly. This can all be done without HD."
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krypt0nian said:To me this looks again like Nintendo caters to Nintendo's bottom line, while SONY/Microsoft stumble over each other to do right by Gamers.
This makes my decision to grab 360/PS3 on Day 1 all the sweeter.
Nintendo gets the shaft next gen - I may pick it up after a year or two just for Zelda.
radioheadrule83 said:A revolution game might well be more likely to run at a good framerate.
radioheadrule83 said:Has anyone looked at X360/PS3 footage on a TV at normal TV resolution? Do you think it looks shit or something?
It doesn't.
Bluemercury said:I will sure has hell wont be buying an HD tv, for christ sake i play my ps2/Gc games on a tiny TV........and its fine.
Bluemercury said:Îm going to say that in Europe its going to be irrelevant...i mean most GC and Ps2 games here have the Progressive scan mode removed.............
Bluemercury said:Read my post again.......
Bluemercury said:Read my post again.......
krypt0nian said:Let me know when the industry gives a shit about Europe.
Amir0x said:...
I hope you don't honestly think that the benefit of not including HD will just be that Xbox360 and PS3 games will have "worse framerates." I really do.
And this is just ridiculous. Would it look like shit? Of course not. Would it look inferior? Yes. And we've already discussed the implications with multiplatform titles and third party support.
In the end, there is absolutely nothing at all positive with avoiding HD. Whether the adoption rate is high or not, those who do have it will get the benefit of a superior visual experience and those who don't will always have the option of upgrading at some point. That's a benefit. It's a great one. And not including it is negative. Pretty much that simple, I don't even see the reason to look at it any other way
Bluemercury said:Îm going to say that in Europe its going to be irrelevant...i mean most GC and Ps2 games here have the Progressive scan mode removed.............
radioheadrule83 said:Of course not, but it's not impossible. Higher resolutions will have to be an option... SD will still have to be available if either of those systems are to be successful in the rest of the world. I'm not assuming anything, but neither should anybody else.
radioheadrule83 said:Well this generation we had a situation where Xbox games did better than the GC equivilents because quite frankly, they looked better, and lots of them could be played online. But, even without HD, it's not a given that Revolution will suffer from the same kind of thing. What if Revolution games at SD resolution look as good as X360 games in SD resolution? When Nintendo removed the digital out on Gamecube for cost saving, was there anyone aside from a persistant few who pissed and moaned?
radioheadrule83 said:I do think that Nintendo had better be using this to keep ground at a cheaper price ie. great visuals at SD resolution. Otherwise we will see that Xbox/GC trend continue. I really don't think we can assume anything either way.
radioheadrule83 said:And in this discussion about multiplatform titles and third party support - did anyone suggest the margins on Revolution might be better because of things like this?
Did anyone consider that a LARGE majority of people will be playing in SD anyway?
radioheadrule83 said:I agree with you. The option on the other systems is most welcome.
I don't care about this though. A lot of the public wont really either imo.
Project Midway said:HD its not irrelevant in Europe. People are already moving to flat screens and flat screens are moving to HD resolutions. I would guess 720p 32" flat screen doesnt cost more than 1000 euros in 2006. At the moment you can get a 720p 26-27" screen with that price.
radioheadrule83 said:Of course not, but it's not impossible. Higher resolutions will have to be an option... SD will still have to be available if either of those systems are to be successful in the rest of the world. I'm not assuming anything, but neither should anybody else.
Well this generation we had a situation where Xbox games did better than the GC equivilents because quite frankly, they looked better, and lots of them could be played online. But, even without HD, it's not a given that Revolution will suffer from the same kind of thing. What if Revolution games at SD resolution look as good as X360 games in SD resolution? When Nintendo removed the digital out on Gamecube for cost saving, was there anyone aside from a persistant few who pissed and moaned? Incidentally, the digital out was present in the European Gamecube - and totally fucking useless. NEVER used.
I do think that Nintendo had better be using this to keep ground at a cheaper price ie. great visuals at SD resolution. Otherwise we will see that Xbox/GC trend continue. I really don't think we can assume anything either way.
And in this discussion about multiplatform titles and third party support - did anyone suggest the margins on Revolution might be better because of things like this?
Did anyone consider that a LARGE majority of people will be playing in SD anyway?
I agree with you. The option on the other systems is most welcome.
I don't care about this though. A lot of the public wont really either imo.
Ponn01 said:Current gen I wouldn't have had any problems getting games for the gamecube over the Xbox EXCEPT for the lack of component and progressive scan. Honestly, what kind of moron decided to include progressive scan on a system and then only make the component cables available at a premium price and only from your online store.
Ponn01 said:If you haven't been keeping up with news HD sales are growing and the FCC news just hit a couple days ago and they are moving up their mandate to make every TV sold digital/analog. Nintendo needs to start doing whatever it takes to get their systems in households and missing out on what should be standard features now is insane. Current gen I wouldn't have had any problems getting games for the gamecube over the Xbox EXCEPT for the lack of component and progressive scan. Honestly, what kind of moron decided to include progressive scan on a system and then only make the component cables available at a premium price and only from your online store. As big as HD is going to get in the next year you better believe alot of people will be taking this into consideration. Even if they don't have a HD set they will know eventually soon they will, and after July 2006 just about any TV they buy will be digital/analog.
you really believed the nintendo fans? 'cause nintendo never said any of that. they said things like development is too expensive, games are too long, games are too complicated, etc. their console looks and is designed for a "second system" or kids bedroom.suaveric said:I thought Nintendo had said that they learned from this generation. The cheaper console thing didn't work for them as they had hoped. So for the Rev they were going to be comparable with their competitors via price and features. Did all that go out the window?
Slurpy said::lol :lol :lol
Yes, I'm sure that feedback form will be factor in Nintendo's decisions.
ge-man said:Furthermore, just because the FCC said something the other day, that doesn't mean that it's the final word. I expect that there is going to be more debate about phasing out analog transmission and possible a delay in that change if things don't pick up with the year.
This whole matter is lot more complicated than many make it out to be, though I can understand that many are ready to make this jump and they want their new consoles to take advantage of this next step.
chinch said:you really believed the nintendo fans? 'cause nintendo never said any of that. they said things like development is too expensive, games are too long, games are too complicated, etc. their console looks and is designed for a "second system" or kids bedroom.
Not a knock but they sell to KIDS. their audience is KIDS. they develop to specs expected in use by KIDS.
jedimike said:Biggest mistake ever by Nintendo...
Dr.Guru of Peru said:Eh? When was the last time you saw a kiosk with an hdtv?
jedimike said:MS is going to use HDTV's for the 360 kiosks. Although Sony hasn't disclaimed anything yet, I'm sure they will follow suit. Nintendo will be using 4:3, 480i TV's.
And "nostalgic adults" as quoted from somewhere i dont remember.chinch said:you really believed the nintendo fans? 'cause nintendo never said any of that. they said things like development is too expensive, games are too long, games are too complicated, etc. their console looks and is designed for a "second system" or kids bedroom.
Not a knock but they sell to KIDS. their audience is KIDS. they develop to specs expected in use by KIDS.
Gahiggidy said:By the way, I woke in bed today feeling so very down. Honest. This whole no-HD nonsense has gotten me so sour on the Revoltuion, and well.. the future in general.
Oh man, this news sucks.
Firest0rm said:I'm in the same position. It really comes down to the principle I guess, it really shows that Nintendo doesn't want to compete. I thought all their talk was just PR bullshit. But they really are trying not to compete. Its pathetic. :S