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They don't want different experiences or variety. Just endless sequals or differently skinned games that are too similar.
I guess I just don't understand this take. It's like saying that Sony would do poorly if they stopped releasing good games. It's part of their business model.It shows how much gamepass is saving their brand. And why people are buying xbox right now. Without that, their console would have a hard time. That is what I was trying to tell @DaGwaphics
When were you appointed the global arbiter for 'killer exclusives'?
Good because it’s a farce.
I really hope they deliver the goods next year and this kind of talk begins to fade.
I'm confused, how is forza 5 not considered a killer exclusive? It's a massively popular AAA title that gets great reviews that's only on xbox. And really infinite as well, as much as this forum loves to dog on it, it's very well reviewed and did very well. (Not to its target, but still an exclusive halo game, and you can't judge it just by multiplayer) Many casual halo fans buy xbox just for halo single player.
Covid related delays are a hard excuse to accept when their competition put out 3 new first party games this year and one high quality remake.
Why don't you try some of PS Studio offerings then.
Forza 5 is a killer app if you like racing games but other than that yeah it has been pretty bad.
This is thread is a perfect example of what is wrong with Xbox's 1st party situation.
Their fans just constantly make excuses for them, using many different angles to distract away from the actual issue.
This has been going on for YEARS.
It's fucking embarrassing.
Sony won't sign the contracts according to Jim Ryan, so I assume it will hit Game Pass after this current 3 year deal is done next year.Money? Does he work for Xbox? It was a direct question for him.
It won't hit gamepass until after 2025 if the clauses in Sony's marketing deals are to be believed. So that's approaching next generation.
And for what it's worth, for individuals who only play call of duty, it's cheaper to purchase the game than it is to stay subscribed indefinitely in order to have access to it.
Sony won't sign the contracts according to Jim Ryan, so I assume it will hit Game Pass after this current 3 year deal is done next year.
Right. And from what has been stated here, Vanguard, MWII 2022 and COD 2023.The contract is for a number of games, not years.
Right. And from what has been stated here, Vanguard, MWII 2022 and COD 2023.
Except the important part of their business is where they are having issues.I guess I just don't understand this take. It's like saying that Sony would do poorly if they stopped releasing good games. It's part of their business model.
Stop trolling.Xbox could debut 10 AAA exclusives next year with 10/10 average on OpenCritic, and that talk still wouldn't fade.
2024 would be end of that.
I don't understand your angle here. You keep saying that if MS didn't have Game Pass to rely on they wouldn't be doing very well right now, which is true, but why is that even a conversation? We don't live in bizzaro world where Game Pass doesn't exist, so why does it matter? MS has Game Pass and it's been a core tenant as to why they have done so well this gen, considering their 1st party output this year has been lacking greatly.Except the important part of their business is where they are having issues.
Sony knew Insomniac's quality and snatched them up in 2017 rightfully so. Imagine if MS did the same with Moon Studios? or StudioMDHR? or asobo? Bungie? Epic? Respawn? Team Ninja?I know Moon aren’t exclusive, but neither were Insomniac for decades.
Because of this topic here.I don't understand your angle here. You keep saying that if MS didn't have Game Pass to rely on they wouldn't be doing very well right now, which is true, but why is that even a conversation? We don't live in bizzaro world where Game Pass doesn't exist, so why does it matter? MS has Game Pass and it's been a core tenant as to why they have done so well this gen, considering their 1st party output this year has been lacking greatly.
Moon Studios famously shit the bed in a public way on REEE and in other interviews. They don't want to be exclusive. It wasn't a good fit for acquisition.Sony knew Insomniac's quality and snatched them up in 2017 rightfully so. Imagine if MS did the same with Moon Studios? or StudioMDHR? or asobo? Bungie? Epic?
16 billion opportunities to grow their first party and they missed em
imagine if these 5 were the face of Xbox's games rather than publishers that were multiplatform for years? there wouldn't even be any dissent
Considering sony had plenty of other games last year and the delay didn’t leave them with nothing, like microsofts delays did this year….not really the gotcha moment you thought it was.
Xbox could debut 10 AAA exclusives next year with 10/10 average on OpenCritic, and that talk still wouldn't fade.
Forza Horizon 5 won GOTY awards, scored amazingly, has a massive player base and is beyond fun.
Those 3 first party games were delayed to 2022 because of COVID
Most people will just be playing on them on PC now.
That would be like saying Elden Ring is a killer app if you like souls borne games, but other than that yeah it has been pretty bad.
Even just as embarrassing are the Sony fans trolling the Microsoft fans. There isn't any need for any of that shit here. It's more fun to just enjoy all the consoles than worship plastic.
Sony won't sign the contracts according to Jim Ryan, so I assume it will hit Game Pass after this current 3 year deal is done next year.
Enough.Stop trolling.
other choices were still good choices even if they sadly didnt get OriMoon Studios famously shit the bed in a public way on REEE and in other interviews. They don't want to be exclusive. It wasn't a good fit for acquisition.
I push back against lies and nonsense. I stay out of threads about products I don't own. If you don't like Xbox why are you in this thread?Do any of your posts not shill for Microsoft?
I wasn't looking for a gotcha moment (those are for tribalists). I was only pointing out a fact. Maybe not everyone cares about trolling like you. Sorry if that disappoints. Now please, move along...go play GOW R like I am right now and enjoy life.Considering sony had plenty of other games last year and the delay didn’t leave them with nothing, like microsofts delays did this year….not really the gotcha moment you thought it was.
Read the article you posted about the three games, then post back. Thanks!
Again, maybe say this like... a year later? when we see trailers? when we see gameplay? at least with starfield we saw a lengthy game showcase. those 20 studios have barely shown anything other than names. Your optimism is unfounded at best and sheer copium at worstI view Xbox as a kind of sleeping dragon. They have a large number of studios now working on games, some getting close to the 3-4 year development time as of 2023. It sucks to keep hearing "it's coming" but when you have over 20 studios all actively working on games, not to mention the exclusive projects being worked on under the Xbox Game Studios Publishing arm by third parties (like IO)..
This narrative is an issue for Xbox, they have not yet popped off. But when they do it's going to be crazy, that's a lot of studios now years into project development. It's only a matter of time.
That is one thing I can guarantee myself when I buy my PlayStations. Consistency on quality exclusives releasing. It's not often they will release a "Bleeding Edge" exclusive. (no offense to those who liked that game, I never played it, only going by scores/popularity).Sony understands the big picture if you’re going to launch a console trust games will follow. That’s your #1 job as a console.
Its not what they have shown us its their pedigree and the fact they haven't shown much yet. Xbox dosen't have the luxury of saying "trust me".Ok, whats sony shown that gets us excited for the future? Spiderman, Wolverine, Factions. One had a 30 cutscene teaser, one had a CG trailer. the other had a literal concept art.
I get that sony had a decent first couple of years, but looking at the future how are Sonys CG trailers better than MS's CG trailers? He brings up Forspoken, FF moneyhats and MS's 2023 and 2024 lineups so hes not just talking about the last two years. I fail to see whats so exciting about Sony first party when all we have seen is the same CG trash we saw from MS.
You dont need to defend xbox all the time.I push back against lies and nonsense. I stay out of threads about products I don't own. If you don't like Xbox why are you in this thread?
“A lie can travel around the world and back again while the truth is lacing up its boots.”—Mark Twain.
Are you sure someone here didn’t ? * looks around shifty eyed *SonyGAF? GAF didn't write the article, dude.
LMFAO
I don't know. I think MS has sadly only shown misuse and misunderstanding of the studios they aquire. The studios may have been worse off.Sony knew Insomniac's quality and snatched them up in 2017 rightfully so. Imagine if MS did the same with Moon Studios? or StudioMDHR? or asobo? Bungie? Epic? Respawn? Team Ninja?
16 billion opportunities to grow their first party and they missed em
imagine if these 7 were the face of Xbox's games rather than publishers that were multiplatform for years? there wouldn't even be any dissent
Are you sure someone here didn’t ? * looks around shifty eyed *
eh maybe. i honestly think if they had the foresight to snatch up those studios when they realized their potential, they'd have the insight to not mismanage and mishandle themI don't know. I think MS has sadly only shown misuse and misunderstanding of the studios they aquire. The studios may have been worse off.
Just look at what happened to Rare and Lionhead Studios.
yeah bro any time now.when stuff like starfield, quake reboot releases people will sing different tune.
Not really trolling though, im an xbox fan who is not satisfied with Microsoft's output, they should be doing betterI wasn't looking for a gotcha moment (those are for tribalists). I was only pointing out a fact. Maybe not everyone cares about trolling like you. Sorry if that disappoints. Now please, move along...go play GOW R like I am right now and enjoy life.
I was trying to be nice I could have said they haven't got a single game worth playing but I didn't.That would be like saying Elden Ring is a killer app if you like souls borne games, but other than that yeah it has been pretty bad.
i mean ok if you want to believe they spent billions on publishers to not release any games lolyeah bro any time now.
Next year™this gen is half lost for sure, but they course corrected. its disingenuous to deny that.
when stuff like starfield, quake reboot releases people will sing different tune.
they literally did. It's all so they can put their previous library on gamepass. these studios could never release another game and MS wouldn't care because their games are on gamepass and that's all they need to bolster the value of GPi mean ok if you want to believe they spent billions on publishers to not release any games lol
LMFAO
That's up there with people saying "Wait until next E3 guys! Trust me!" immediately after the recent E3 fails to deliver.
Being an Xbro is a hard life.
Not really trolling though, im an xbox fan who is not satisfied with Microsoft's output, they should be doing better
I was trying to be nice I could have said they haven't got a single game worth playing but I didn't.
so are you saying a bunch of FPS games that MS releases aren’t the same games skinned differently? Because that’s what the MS ecosystem looks like to me and to a lot of people: a place to play FPS bro shooter games and that the vast majority of the games look like variations of each other.
Grounded was in early access on Xbox One in 2020.
Either you're missing the point or you're pretending to.
The problem is that by pushing that logic that everything is equal you basically say that Microsoft don't need AAA games. First in a commercial sense they do, but outside of that, most people won't only play games like Grounded on console. People saying "you only care about AAA" when it's basically the complete opposite, i feel i've been playing indie games forever on Gamepass and i want something ambitious that can push the hardware (because who else than Microsoft can provide that for its own console ?)
Halo 6, Forza Motorsport 8, Gears of War 5, Forza Horizon 5, Crackdown 3. I agree, they only want countless sequels and nothing more.