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Which VR head-mounted display are you most interested in and why?
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Personally, none, I have no interest in vr because they have not shown compelling reasons to like it. I well say this, for Morpheus to get any traction, Sony is going to have to let it be used on a PC as well as on the ps4.
As for Microsoft's offering, aren't those tons more AR than VR?
As for Microsoft's offering, aren't those tons more AR than VR?
BRocknRolla
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I'm interested in the tech, but none of the "products" right now. I need to see them in action with real software for any of it to matter. VR could be cool, but I need to see it in practice before I'm going to throw in my lot with any product.
I'll say that Hololens looks like a totally different product category though for AR. It likewise looks far from an actual product, such that I wouldn't be surprised if it never actually releases, and it's a category I currently have zero interest in.
I'll say that Hololens looks like a totally different product category though for AR. It likewise looks far from an actual product, such that I wouldn't be surprised if it never actually releases, and it's a category I currently have zero interest in.
Probably none right now.
I don't have enough interest in VR to be bothered with the possibility of picking the loser.
Hololense is probably the most interesting because it's doing something really different.. but it also looks like the most gimmicky and least likely to succeed.
Oculus will probably be the best by spec and support at the moment, though Sony's offering seems good, though hardware limitation will be the issue..
I'll probably wait a few years for
1) Someone to win
2) Enough time to prove that the games are there and I'm not jumping on board an expensive fad.
I'm super interested in playing this at a friends house on a nice rig. And maybe in 2-3 years will invest in my own if it seems like it's going to stick around.
I don't have enough interest in VR to be bothered with the possibility of picking the loser.
Hololense is probably the most interesting because it's doing something really different.. but it also looks like the most gimmicky and least likely to succeed.
Oculus will probably be the best by spec and support at the moment, though Sony's offering seems good, though hardware limitation will be the issue..
I'll probably wait a few years for
1) Someone to win
2) Enough time to prove that the games are there and I'm not jumping on board an expensive fad.
I'm super interested in playing this at a friends house on a nice rig. And maybe in 2-3 years will invest in my own if it seems like it's going to stick around.
CosmicQueso
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I'm getting a bit burned out on promises of great experiences, rather than the actual existence of great experiences.
VR tech seems great, but what the heck are we going to be able to play on these that will take advantage of it? That's the missing piece.
Looking at a shark or walking around a scary room is cool I guess, but the idea of spending hundreds of gaming hours doing that kind of thing isn't appealing.
VR tech seems great, but what the heck are we going to be able to play on these that will take advantage of it? That's the missing piece.
Looking at a shark or walking around a scary room is cool I guess, but the idea of spending hundreds of gaming hours doing that kind of thing isn't appealing.
Drama Zed Nod
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I was skeptical until i used a DK2 recently.
It was only the roller coaster demo and i sat there watching it with all my scepticism in tact.
Then it kicked in and the coaster went fast and my body reacted. I felt the butterflies and the sense of speed and disorientation, as well as the rush of adrenaline.
If a simple tech demo can make me feel that, i think some games will really push new boundaries with this tech.
I just wonder for how long it's viable to actually use one.
I could never imagine only having one of these instead of a monitor but i could absolutely imagine having one as an addition to a monitor. In the same way as i have an arcade stick but i don't game with it absolutely every time i play a fighting game.
It was only the roller coaster demo and i sat there watching it with all my scepticism in tact.
Then it kicked in and the coaster went fast and my body reacted. I felt the butterflies and the sense of speed and disorientation, as well as the rush of adrenaline.
If a simple tech demo can make me feel that, i think some games will really push new boundaries with this tech.
I just wonder for how long it's viable to actually use one.
I could never imagine only having one of these instead of a monitor but i could absolutely imagine having one as an addition to a monitor. In the same way as i have an arcade stick but i don't game with it absolutely every time i play a fighting game.
Only for 1 out of those points is Morpheus the best (partially, as the resolution is not). The tracking solution of Vive seems to be way better. Controllers remains to be seen. For CPU&GPU there isn't even a discussion and I don't understand what has Nintendo to do with this discussion (being there just to justify some kind of superiority). And OS&Game software is also kind of tricky, as there are already games out there on PC supporting already the VR.
Betta Lines
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Trying VR is quite compelling in itself.
vpance
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I had that figure in mind, I thought maybe 4x that would be generous enough of an amount for initial sales. Are there any sort of estimations out there by industry figures on how much they're looking to sell?
in the present, as in, right now, Valve's headset is superior because A) it has oculus rift support as well, B) it is shipping with a unifying API, and C) it flat-out has the best specs at the moment.
protomouse
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Rift.
I'm not paying a dime for PlayStation-proprietary hardware. My last-gen official PS3 racing wheel is a paper-weight, because Sony. They will need to make Morpheus compatible with every other device for me to even consider it.
I'm not paying a dime for PlayStation-proprietary hardware. My last-gen official PS3 racing wheel is a paper-weight, because Sony. They will need to make Morpheus compatible with every other device for me to even consider it.
Project Morpheus followed by Hololens. Get my VR fix and AR fix.
Reasons:
I have a PS4 and Xbox One. Morpheus sounds really cool and the specs look great, but I want to see the games for it and how they look before I make my final decision, obviously. Hololens so I can check out AR and see how much I like it compared to using VR. Same for it as Morpheus about seeing the games and applications for it.
Project Morpheus may not be the most high-end specs-wise, and it may be limited to PS4's hardware, but it's an easier sell... I already have a PS4.
Reasons:
I have a PS4 and Xbox One. Morpheus sounds really cool and the specs look great, but I want to see the games for it and how they look before I make my final decision, obviously. Hololens so I can check out AR and see how much I like it compared to using VR. Same for it as Morpheus about seeing the games and applications for it.
Project Morpheus may not be the most high-end specs-wise, and it may be limited to PS4's hardware, but it's an easier sell... I already have a PS4.
1 million in the first year is oculus' projection. The next most "official" projection comes from Fox pictures, which expects revenue of VR headsets to reach $1 billion by 2017.
Big Takeover
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Oculus or Vive? Much too early to call.
I have to say though, I don't think I'm entirely over the moon with Valve's decision to muddy the water by doing their own HMD. I'm not sure competition at this juncture is particularly good for VR (excluding Morpheus).
That said, Oculus has a lot to prove of the software development side. That's Valve's bread and butter, and Oculus has completely underwhelmed thus far. Software support is going to be crucial. Until I can get a sense of how much VR system overlap there will be for software, I'm not going to get too excited about any one HMD.
I have to say though, I don't think I'm entirely over the moon with Valve's decision to muddy the water by doing their own HMD. I'm not sure competition at this juncture is particularly good for VR (excluding Morpheus).
That said, Oculus has a lot to prove of the software development side. That's Valve's bread and butter, and Oculus has completely underwhelmed thus far. Software support is going to be crucial. Until I can get a sense of how much VR system overlap there will be for software, I'm not going to get too excited about any one HMD.
AllIsOneIsNone
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It does. It's almost not worth defending it anymore, most of the people that call it a fad have no interest in reading about or discussing it.
Although I've saved a few threads for future crow eating contests where I have been part of the defense force. If VR does fail, I'll be happy to take the shit that I've dished out...but I don't bet on much unless I've done my homework.
By the way, that's crazy that you knew Palmer Luckey.
Betta Lines
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I can understand that the overall package can result in a better experience despite the specs, so I'd have no problem believing that Vive is on top right now, but you specifically say specs... the lower resolution and (apparently?) LCD panels of Vive surely mean CB is still technically higher spec?
FF Seraphim
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Morpheus as of right now, also looks the most comfortable.
Prevolition
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I'm saddened Nintendo isn't part of the pioneering. Missed opportunity there. But I'm going to wait it out and see which HMD has the least issues with the best price.
Why are you posting here then? We are trying to have a discussion.
I don't know where people are getting that the vive uses LCD panels (I guess because HTC doesn't manufacture a phone with OLED at the moment) but I doubt it does because the dev days proto didn't use LCDs and Valve themselves are the ones who stumbled upon the utility of low persistence in VR in the first place.
The resolution difference between 1440p and dual 1200x1080 screens is negligible AFAIK. Much more important is the type of positional tracking used, and Valve's is the solution I've been advocating for years now.
GameSeeker
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Certainly for some areas a PC solution like Oculus Rift is industry leading, but no one is currently industry leading in all 5 areas. At this point, Sony seems to be ahead when you add up all 5 areas. This could easily change in the future, but we will have to wait and see.
Theonik
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A) and B) are really big points for me for VR to succeed in commercial consumer endeavors. A standard abstracted interface for the devices needs to exist and it needs to be adopted universally at least as an option with some sacrificed functionality.
With everyone dipping their hands into the VR pot I can see it drowning like many motion accessories for the PC have.
loaf of bread
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One of these things is not like the other.
Hololens isn't VR
I agree with you completely. Those who say this is a fad, are a fad. They usually never even know what VR is actually like, and assume it is a 3D TV on your face, or something.
I still occasionally chat with Palmer, but I know he is super busy helping create one of the world's best HMDs and all lol. His journey was amazing and I couldn't be more happy for him. I'm just thrilled I was a minute and tiny little piece of that history!
I'm probably going to sit back and watch to see which PC headset appeals to me the most to replace my DK2. Morpheus is day one because it looks comfy and I think Sony is going to give it proper care. But my main focus is which ever headset appeals most for PC just because of the open nature of it. Stuff like seeing Catbus flying in front of you is amazing and those kind of unofficial demos and experiences aren't going to happen on closed consoles.
Morpheus for sure. Going by report the simple sony demos are a lot better thsn you can find anywhere else. Plus it will get all the big vr projects as almost all are already announce.
But the biggest reason is it will be a fix spec. Unlike the other vr that will likely be update at least yearly. It will be very unlikely sony will update the vr tech until ps5. So buying morpheus you are set for years.
But the biggest reason is it will be a fix spec. Unlike the other vr that will likely be update at least yearly. It will be very unlikely sony will update the vr tech until ps5. So buying morpheus you are set for years.
protomouse
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I think they said something along the lines of "when VR is ready [for mass-market, i.e. cheaper to produce], we'll be there". They're not the company at the bleeding edge of technology.
I know, that's why I specified transparent lenses. I know its different, but it felt unfair to leave it out of the list entirely.
This is a huge CON not a plus. anyway even if sony release a new morpheus yearly it doesnt mean the old ones will become incompatible with new games, jsut that the newer headsets offer a better experience.
Hari Seldon
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They would have to pump out a new console to even get in the space. Probably why MS is totally skipping VR and going straight to AR. PS4 is just barely enough.
Megatron
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I see a lot of people saying they aren't interested, including a mod.
ArkkAngel007
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Too early to say. Oculus and VIVE I guess since that's where I'm expecting the most support.
Morpheus is on the radar, just to see how the console market it treated and reacts to it.
Morpheus is on the radar, just to see how the console market it treated and reacts to it.
Sounds like you used a DK2, then.
I'm sorry you think it is a fad, though. I really don't. I hope that when these consumer models come out, you will give them a try and possibly be open to changing your mind!
To be fair, his post included a lot more info on his reasoning instead of a drive-by put down.
I don't follow your math: best in half of a category= best overall while best in some areas is nothing.
Oculus Rift for the possible better hardware and specs.
HTC Vive for the tracking solution that according to people trying it, is the best yet. 15 x 15 ft of walking and interacting space is a pretty sweet deal and opens allot more gameplay variation then the sitting arrangement of the Oculus Rift.
HTC Vive for the tracking solution that according to people trying it, is the best yet. 15 x 15 ft of walking and interacting space is a pretty sweet deal and opens allot more gameplay variation then the sitting arrangement of the Oculus Rift.
abracadaver
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Oculus for me - it seems to be focused on to deliver the best VR experience you can get and they want to sell it really cheap
Vive is lower resolution than Oculus already and it will probably be expensive because its made by HTC
Vive is lower resolution than Oculus already and it will probably be expensive because its made by HTC
Hari Seldon
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Yeah lol. I definitely forsee this as a distinct possibility.