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mansoor1980
Gold Member
We see articles for every territory that reports numbers. That tends to be Japan, Europe, and US.
Thick Thighs Save Lives
Gold Member
Dick Jones
Gold Member
It's doing great there, don't worry
Japan Is Xbox’s Fastest Growing Market - IGN
Microsoft has stated that Japan is its fastest growing gaming market, with strong popularity for the Xbox Series S.
hououinkyouma00
Member
Has Xbox ever really had a presence in Europe? This doesn’t surprise me in the slightest. Europe has always been PC/PS IIRC.
They also just don’t really have a compelling product. I’ve owned every Xbox they’ve ever made outside of the 3rd 360 revision (including both S and X) and the Series consoles are easily the worst from a value standpoint IMO. This is partially because of their same day releases on PC. There isn’t really a point in owning a Xbox if you have a PC that can play modern games outside of a few BC titles.
They also just don’t really have a compelling product. I’ve owned every Xbox they’ve ever made outside of the 3rd 360 revision (including both S and X) and the Series consoles are easily the worst from a value standpoint IMO. This is partially because of their same day releases on PC. There isn’t really a point in owning a Xbox if you have a PC that can play modern games outside of a few BC titles.
Mephisto40
Member
Tiago Rodrigues
Member
Why only focusing in Europe? Asia is basically non-existent. It's decreasing like hell in the USA as well.
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By then you'll see plenty of 3rd party publishers, specially asian ones dropping the console. Xbox can pay all they want but can they sustain 5 years of payola for multiplatform games to release on their platform like that? By 2028 PS5 will be at way above 100M. Xbox will be lucky to even be at 40 or 50M judging how sales are stalling.
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We hear this every damn generation. And yeah...5 more years waiting for the next Xbox will be...something considering how it's selling 3 years in.
By then you'll see plenty of 3rd party publishers, specially asian ones dropping the console. Xbox can pay all they want but can they sustain 5 years of payola for multiplatform games to release on their platform like that? By 2028 PS5 will be at way above 100M. Xbox will be lucky to even be at 40 or 50M judging how sales are stalling.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
hououinkyouma00
Member
The Series consoles are probably doing better then any Xbox console prior.
Xbox has never really had any sort of presence in Japan despite the 360 having some exclusive bangers.
So you don’t hear about it because the difference between 500 a week and 250 isn’t important enough to bother with.
SimTourist
Member
Wait for E3
CuteFaceJay
Member
Sounds like consumer propaganda if you ask me.
Xbox 360 did very well in Europe.
Europe however has always heavily favoured PS/Nintendo for consoles (Sega back in the day too). Outside of the 360 Xbox never caught on in EU.
DaGwaphics
Member
They just have to keep trucking along. PS5 clearly has the mind share and market dominance. At this point, for this generation, MS will have to settle for being a secondary option in a lot of households. At this point they have not released enough software outside of Halo, Gears, and Forza to stick that just yet. Starfield alone might not be enough to get a PS5 owner to pickup a Xbox, but as they start to add to that and all the other studios start to release more console exclusive software it will be Starfield, Plus Indiana Jones, plus all the other games coming etc. things will look better. Maybe those Sony users start to realize the value proposition offered by Xbox/GP and make a different choice next time around.
skit_data
Member
Machinegames are gonna have to strike it out of the park for this game to become a pull factor, the IP seems pretty dead in the public conciousness going by the latest film. Not impossible, but they can't rely on the IP itself to bring players in.
radewagon
Member
It's almost as though exclusive content is a big part of the console business model. Since gamers can play multiplats on more than one console (or PC), ignoring the release of a robust set of exclusive titles is profoundly dumb.
They have failed to create a scenario where the Series console is needed. It's no surprise sales are dropping.
All that money and the best they could think to do with it was rob the competition of multiplats by buying up third party studios. Such a shame. Where's Gears 6?
They have failed to create a scenario where the Series console is needed. It's no surprise sales are dropping.
All that money and the best they could think to do with it was rob the competition of multiplats by buying up third party studios. Such a shame. Where's Gears 6?
Tiago Rodrigues
Member
What is better than Starfield, a new Forza, and some Bethesda titles though?
Mibu no ookami
Member
Series is doing significantly worse than the 360 in Japan...
Mibu no ookami
Member
What if I told you Xbox was down 35 percent in September...
The reality is that people in Europe were buying XBS in 2022 because they couldn't get a PS5. Once PS5s became readily available the XBS cratered in sales.
They've absolutely destroyed their brand with day 1 pc and day 1 gamepass.
StealthGoblin
Banned
It's absurd isn't it. Profits can't be great. The Xbox Series had the largest console subsidy from Microsoft of any console. The division would have been eating that loss.
Banjo64
cumsessed
? It’s down 52% year on year for October.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
They just need to buy up more third party publishers and IPs and foreclose on the competition.
Wastelander92
Member
I think that bottom tweet is a joke.
In the Netherlands, the original Xbox did somewhat okay, and the Xbox 360 put up a really good fight during the first half of that generation.
That momentum collapsed when they started focusing on the casual Wii crowd with Kinect, and then they completely lost us when they labeled us a Tier 2 country with the Xbox One launch. Now Xbox is pretty much gone from store shelves here, except specialized gamestores.
Europe is very varied though. Nintendo has always had a strong presence in France and Germany, with Germany also being very friendly to PC. Scandinavia has always been PlayStation first and foremost, etc etc. Each country/region has their own prefences.
Luipadre
Member
But games dont sell consoles, uncle Phil said so
Bernoulli
M2 slut
Starfield 2 , Forza horizon 6 ,Gow Fable and Avowed
Mibu no ookami
Member
Anyone who talks to you about revenue but doesn't talk about profit/operating income and operating costs is lying to you.
Microsoft is cautious not to wave the white flag too early like they did on mobile, but something is going to give here.
64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
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I understand where you're coming from but I just find it hard to agree. Even if I'm not a big fan of Xbox now with that whole big leak they had a while back I feel like for 500 dollars the Series X (if you're getting with the knowledge there will be no exclusives) is a deal, considering it reguarly goes on sale for lower than that. It can play a large library of Xbox games through backwards compat, and it can play even more games through emulation. There still isn't an equivalent PC you can build for the price of a discounted Xbox (we are getting there with discounted AMD GPUs, but still no cigar)
If you have a computer already it's virtually useless however.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
People from Europe report the sales data. It's not that hard.
Banjo64
cumsessed
It’s not comparable to a PC because you have to pay £50 a year to play online.ehhhh....
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I understand where you're coming from but I just find it hard to agree. Even if I'm not a big fan of Xbox now with that whole big leak they had a while back I feel like for 500 dollars the Series X (if you're getting with the knowledge there will be no exclusives) is a deal, considering it reguarly goes on sale for lower than that. It can play a large library of Xbox games through backwards compat, and it can play even more games through emulation. There still isn't an equivalent PC you can build for the price of a discounted Xbox (we are getting there with discounted AMD GPUs, but still no cigar)
If you have a computer already it's virtually useless however.
I’d say a Deck Oled shits all over a Series console.
twilo99
Member
Correct, Xbox doesn’t exist in Europe in any meaningful way.
64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
it's more expensive however. even the default 512gb option is 50 bucks more than a Series X. It's also less powerful, which doesn't sound like a big deal at first until you attempt to output it to a TV and realize that playing at 1080p or higher is a challenge with the limited hardware.
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Majormaxxx
Member
the series x is pretty dope and also it is small!
MasterCornholio
Member
How is that a good thing?
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Do you think Microsoft realizes this?
fart town usa
Gold Member
Meanwhile in Europe...
Banjo64
cumsessed
Didn’t realise that. Same price in the UK, £479 a piece.
Personal preference but for me the portability just means I don’t have to buy a monitor and the lack of yearly subscriptions on top makes it even sweeter.
