That was a really good interview. Never expected Taro Yoko to be such a clown, but I guess I should have expected it after Drakengard 3. He must be a great guy to work with.
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Nier 2 announced (Square Enix, Yoko Taro, Platinum Games, Akihiko Yoshida, PS4)
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That was a really good interview. Never expected Taro Yoko to be such a clown, but I guess I should have expected it after Drakengard 3. He must be a great guy to work with.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
So while all people involved make for a combination of pure sex and I'm hyped as fuck, I still firmly believe Nier was lightning in a bottle and cannot be replicated in spirit due to it being what it is. Much love for Nier, from me at least, comes from how surprising and oddball it is within the framework of a seemingly traditional ARPG. It's very deceptive. And you can't really pull the same trick twice without losing some of that spark, even if what you end up with is outstanding.
So yeah. I want Nier 2 by Yoko Taro and co with Platinum Games. And I also don't want Nier 2. If that makes sense.
So yeah. I want Nier 2 by Yoko Taro and co with Platinum Games. And I also don't want Nier 2. If that makes sense.
VanillaCakeIsBurning
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Not really sure what you mean by this. Yoko Taro's games have been like this since the first Drakengard, and by that I mean they are very odd games with a lot of ethereal and strange/odd elements that make them unlike pretty much any other game in terms of characters and story. Playing Drakengard 3 recently you can see the same thing there although it's not the exact same game as NieR obviously. No one should be expecting a copy of NieR, which they have essentially stated with it taking place in the same world but not being necessarily a sequel, similar to how Drakengard 3 is a prequel to Drakengard 1 but they are very different stories but are binded by Yoko Taro-isms if that makes any sense.
Its not about replicating anything. People expect Yoko Taro's brand that he brought to Drakengard 1 and Nier, that delightful balance of insanity and WTF versus somber depression.
As long as the game has that, i don't think anyone could fault the game for being whatever it ends up being. Drakengard was balls to the wall insane, Nier was a different kind of insanity but still just a poignant, and even Drakengard 3 in its own way achieved something similar, but none of them were replicating each other really.
killatopak
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I still can't get over this.
Best damn announcement in a sea of best announcements if it were any other year.
Best damn announcement in a sea of best announcements if it were any other year.
Hades Hotgun
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I'm just kidding anyway.
PirateKing
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LE comes with Emil head to wear. I want this now.
Hydrargyrus
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I don't think the combat system in Nier 1 was bad at all. It was pretty satisfying IMO, but I think it would be very benefited for the P* colaboration
Can't wait to see what could they bring us.
And I really expect one incredible OST like in Nier 1
Can't wait to see what could they bring us.
And I really expect one incredible OST like in Nier 1
lmfao
Hah! He's still wearing it
BouncyFrag
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At some point I hope we get some good behind the vid docs of how the production of Nier 2 came to be.
Not sure about the best, but MOST UNIQUE certainly fits him.
Seth Balmore
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Watching the interview now, it's a real treat. That OK sign when discussing how they're writing a happy ending for this game... yyyyyyyeah, just fuck me up, Yoko & co.
They would be fools not to. Gimme that Shadowlord's castle theme again!
But they're not twisted and insane, they're completely normal.
I 100% confident that NieR 2 is going to be nothing like the first game. Yoko Taro isnt the type of guy who does things mutliple times.
If you dont play this game for yourself, it will lose most if not all of its impact, especially the ending.
Psycho_Mantis
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Hopefully they actually put it out on cd. The Nier to Drakengard 3 remixes are psn dlc only and they never put them out on discs.
Makes a lot of sense actually, and I agree. The simple fact that a lot more people will expect the game to be good before it's released changes a lot of things. It's a little bit like the next Mad Max movie. If they do the same game/movie, it won't have the same spark and will be considered inferior. If they do something different, they could easily lose what made the first one great.
I'm more than happy that they have the chance to make the game and prove they can do something fresh though.
ArkhamFantasy
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I really hope they consider doing a remaster of the first game. I sold my 360 a couple of months ago and now I really regret it.
Ask Xbox to make Nier part of the BC deal.
Miles Quaritch
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They could go in a completely different direction though? There's no reason to believe it will be as oddball or crazy as the first game.
It's really far too early to be thinking along these lines, but at the same time, I do get what you're saying.
CEX are selling it for £4. They've ran out of the PS3 version now though (which was selling for £10).
qualitydisc
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Yoko on Square Enix: "I think they're borderline crazy for giving us the green light on this."
Me too, Yoko-san. Me too.
Me too, Yoko-san. Me too.
They mentioned that many females liked Nier and because of that they were afraid of making the game too action heavy for some females or people who aren't great action games. They were worried it might deter them. Because of that they are aiming to create a battle system that is easy to pick up but provides a lot of depth so those with all skill levels will enjoy it.
I'm glad the Square Enix interviewer spoke up and said women will be fine and that he knows plenty of women who play action games who could kick his ass at them.
Might have been a bad translation. I caught that too, but I definitely don't think they meant that to come off the way it did.
Fine Ham Abounds
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That interview is interesting, as it essentially supports what I hoped the game would be, but now makes me concerned about whether Platinum is going to be tethered too much on the gameplay side.
I have a lot of faith in Inaba as a producer to get the right elements together, but at the same time, I don't think he's really done a mixed genre title, and the only RPG he's produced in cooperation with an outside studio was InfiniteSpace on DS
I have a lot of faith in Inaba as a producer to get the right elements together, but at the same time, I don't think he's really done a mixed genre title, and the only RPG he's produced in cooperation with an outside studio was InfiniteSpace on DS
That interview is interesting, as it essentially supports what I hoped the game would be, but now makes me concerned about whether Platinum is going to be tethered too much on the gameplay side.
I have a lot of faith in Inaba as a producer to get the right elements together, but at the same time, I don't think he's really done a mixed genre title, and the only RPG he's produced in cooperation with an outside studio was InfiniteSpace on DS
The impression I gathered from multiple interviews is that (some of) the younger Platinum staff at the very least knows Nier, with some of them being big fans of Nier, and then Inaba gave Tauro (is that his name? Sorry if I get this wrong) the opportunity to lead the Platinum side of development, with a team made of mostly younger people, because they are the ones who understand Nier and would do the IP justice.
It might not sound as good as having a big name behind it, but it's a very smart decision from Inaba, the man knows how to run the company.
It's a bit concerning that Taro was afraid it would become a character action game though, because what that says is basically that Platinum would do whatever the fuck they wanted with the game, and his director role is pretty much a glorified writer role, since he was concerned about the end product instead of how hard it would be to make it Nier.
Anyway, thankfully, as he stated, the team is passionate about Nier and definitely understands what makes it special, and they just plan on making a Platinum-quality Nier, instead of a trademark Platinum game in the Nier franchise.
The fact that not only they understand people enjoyed the variety, but are also already implementing said variety, and in different kinds of gameplay on top of that, makes me completely confident in the end product.
The only thing that could stop this train was if Taro didn't create something as interesting as Nier, which could happen, Nier is too brilliant to have something just as good as a given, but I have faith in the man.
Windom Earle
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That interview is interesting, as it essentially supports what I hoped the game would be, but now makes me concerned about whether Platinum is going to be tethered too much on the gameplay side.
I have a lot of faith in Inaba as a producer to get the right elements together, but at the same time, I don't think he's really done a mixed genre title, and the only RPG he's produced in cooperation with an outside studio was InfiniteSpace on DS
I have confidence they'll get it right. One thing's for sure, it will be far superior to the "combat" in Nier 1.
IncandescentPrecept
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I have no hope that PG will be able to do this series justice.
Windom Earle
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I take it you have not read any of the last few pages and know nothing about the team setup and dev goals.
Watched some of the interview (turned it off when it felt like spoiler territory) and Taro Yoko is such a joker lol, the complete opposite of someone I would expect to be behind Nier.
The translator guy could barely look at him without laughing. He did everything from funny gestures in that Emil head, to trying to drink through holes and picking his nose.
As for ppl worried about PG, don't be. This is exactly what the team needed, gameplay was always one of the weaker aspects of their games and they basically brought in the pros for that.
And an interesting tidbit from the interview, apparently a lot of the people that worked on Nier (and are also working on Nier 2?) are from the Dragon Quest team.
The translator guy could barely look at him without laughing. He did everything from funny gestures in that Emil head, to trying to drink through holes and picking his nose.
As for ppl worried about PG, don't be. This is exactly what the team needed, gameplay was always one of the weaker aspects of their games and they basically brought in the pros for that.
And an interesting tidbit from the interview, apparently a lot of the people that worked on Nier (and are also working on Nier 2?) are from the Dragon Quest team.
QuiteWhittle
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Cavia and Access Games didn't exactly leave behind high bars for Platinum to reach.
Acquiescence
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lmfao
This is so funny. The way he's nonchalantly sat there inbetween two people, with that fucking thing on his head.
Access made sure that Drakengard 3 was a mess performance-wise.
IncandescentPrecept
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Maybe it was luck but they did make a gem.
I can only look at PG's records to see where their strengths, or lack of there of, lies.
DrROBschiz
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Have any of the interviewers asked about a remaster of the first game?
I feel like a lot of people missed the boat on the First NIER
I feel like a lot of people missed the boat on the First NIER
Fine Ham Abounds
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Their only consistent weakness is in storytelling, which explicitly is being handled by the same brain that handled it in Nier 1. Also, you can do a lot more than only look at PG's track record, you could read the interviews like the post you quoted suggested.
I have some minor concern as well, but from the other side. Still I think we're looking at an interesting project here that crosses over two fanbases I expected to be fairly disparate before, which I think is reason to be excited more than bummed.
I think she'll be on board.@emirevans said:
Windom Earle
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Watch the interview that was posted here in the last few pages or read the thread. They are very aware that this is an RPG and it's not like the team is Platinum now. Platinum is a small part of the development team.
Or just this:
Rats Off To Ya
Banned
Just quoting this so I can watch it later.
I get where you're coming from, and I think I agree.
Both in gameplay and story really. I think the story part is obvious, but the first time I got into a text adventure segment in Nier, or when the camera switched to fixed RE-mode or Isometric RPG mode was also pretty special.
Still hyped as fuck though.
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