DXLelouch153
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dude its Platinum
have they ever simplified combat except that game that shall not be named?
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Nier 2 announced (Square Enix, Yoko Taro, Platinum Games, Akihiko Yoshida, PS4)
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dude its Platinum
have they ever simplified combat except that game that shall not be named?
skLaFarebear
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That's how I feel. Whoever the guy that keeps pushing for new Drakengard/Nier, I love you.
Yoko Taro can make do with low budgets and he has a cult following. Squeenix allowing him to make relatively low budget games gives them e-cred with the niche crowd.
That and Taro works on whatever mobile game that Squeenix tells him to work on, so he's reliable.
iirc the CEO of square enix (maybe former ceo now? someone high up) loves yoko taro's work and is basically the #1 reason why he continually gets work despite constantly producing insane pieces of work that don't really sell or review well
edit:
yoichi wada, the former CEO of square (2000-2013) is the guy i'm talking about
he definitely does not work for square anymore
so i have no fucking idea how this even EXISTS except yoko taro is an actual dark sorcerer
VanillaCakeIsBurning
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Yuki Yuna. The soundtrack for that was pretty good. The MONACA touch was immediately noticeable.
Just going by what the director said.
threelights
Member
Ooooh, I didn't know that last bit. Interesting...
Wada? Damn...
But yeah, it would make sense, specially since the games are not very expensive either.
Someone name is Saito Yosuke
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Maybe the project did do well. Its a cult hit and they can see there's potential.
this appears to be correct, this article that just came out confirms that it's basically another pet project i guessl:
http://venturebeat.com/2015/06/17/n...had-6-months-to-impress-or-we-would-scrap-it/
also lol
Inkvoterad
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Holy shit it is impossible to find a cheap PS3 copy of Nier in the west. What the fuck happened there? Played the demo of this years back and loved it, also listened to the soundtrack tons of times, but never got around to actually getting it. Seems i'm wayy too late for that 
I just wanna play it before this one is out.
Ohwell, maybe they'll release it on PSN someday.
I just wanna play it before this one is out. Ohwell, maybe they'll release it on PSN someday.
threelights
Member
I sure hope so... If there's one IP SE owns that deserves to be up there in sales it is definitely NieR.
Hah, okay, that explains it. More power to Saito then, and good luck to Taro with drawing new players =P
DXLelouch153
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Holy shit it is impossible to find a cheap PS3 copy of Nier in the west. What the fuck happened there? Played the demo of this years back and loved it, also listened to the soundtrack tons of times, but never got around to actually getting it. Seems i'm wayy too late for that
Ohwell, maybe they'll release it on PSN someday.
GAMESTOP
i got a copy earlier today for 7.99 with my card+a coupon
I hope they were only referring to it being 'simplified' by comparison to the relative complexity (for an ARPG) of mechanics such as dodge offset. The MGR/Bayonetta perfect parry would probably still be a simple enough mechanic to include, and the dial-a-combo setup probably isn't going away given its omnipresence in Platinum's output. Regardless of what they do, it should still be well-animated and satisfying, but it'd be a massive disappointment to contract Platinum to merely remake Nier's existing system.
It'll be interesting to see how the multiple playable characters fit into this, as well. They could simply use similar mechanics to each other - as with Balder and Bayonetta, Sam and Raiden and most of the Anarchy Reigns characters within a given weight class - but providing each with a varying degree of mechanical depth and accessibility might be a way to allow people to play the game as more of a RPG or action game. Though automatic modes exist for a reason...
Make a LTTP later, will you ?
Love to hear impressions from first time players.
I am okay with this. More Yoko Taro games for all.
ghostwritingduck
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I had no idea that the first one did well enough for this, and I'm really excited. I really hope the sequel keeps the alternate playthroughs.
DXLelouch153
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Inkvoterad
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Called earlier today, the only one near me doesnt have it in
Maybe i should have a check when i go to Gothenburg this weekend.Give the game a spin and see the intro.
When I saw it, I stopped everything else and focused solely on Nier.
DXLelouch153
Banned
And it wasn't well received, let's not forget that! They had to convince the suits that there was a loyal fanbase for it, even if it didn't sell a lot and received mediocre reviews.
No wonder it didn't get greenlit by the previous boss dude.
EDIT: Oh, so Wada loved his work, huh? That definitely explains why Drakengard 3 even existed, but that wasn't nearly as much of a shock as this is.
I take simplified as just not tons of air combos with jump cancels and shit, not turning it into DMC, basically.
MGR is already simplified compared to something like Bayonetta, it focuses on being effective rather than flashy.
Windom Earle
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Holy shit it is impossible to find a cheap PS3 copy of Nier in the west. What the fuck happened there? Played the demo of this years back and loved it, also listened to the soundtrack tons of times, but never got around to actually getting it. Seems i'm wayy too late for that
Ohwell, maybe they'll release it on PSN someday.
Yeah, I was stupid enough to sell both my PS3 and X360 copies. Re-bought the 360 version for 30 now.
InfiniteNine
Rolling Girl
It's the runs/looks the same on both consoles. I think you might have to install Nier to get load times that match the PS3's though.
Fair enough, hopefully you like the game when you play it.
Zomba13
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That's good and yeah I plan to install it. Heard good thing about the game and how weird the story can be but I never jumped on it. Now seems like a good time with a sequel announced that Platinum is working on.
I felt pretty damn emotional during the reveal. It was actually very strange I didn't expect to feel so strongly for this game. Something about the music and the fond memories I had of the first game made me feel a melancholic joy. It reminded me of the feelings I had playing Ocarina of Time and Mario 64 when I was younger. This was the biggest announcement for me during what was one of the most legendary E3s. No one expected to this game was getting made. We all thought Nier was dead and buried. I'm so glad to be wrong.
QuiteWhittle
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SE Presents is streaming an interview with Saito and Taro if anyone's interested.
InfiniteNine
Rolling Girl
One of 2 or 3 games I platinumed on PS3. I freaking loved Nier.
I worry that it has the stink of Platinum attached to it. I am one of the only people on this planet that do not particularly enjoy their combat systems (would prefer Nier's very basic systems over most) and definitely have not enjoyed their method of storytelling in any game.
I hope S-E keeps a tight, tight, tight leash on them.
Also it will be a travesty if we don't get the same VAs and music director. So, soooooo good.
I worry that it has the stink of Platinum attached to it. I am one of the only people on this planet that do not particularly enjoy their combat systems (would prefer Nier's very basic systems over most) and definitely have not enjoyed their method of storytelling in any game.
I hope S-E keeps a tight, tight, tight leash on them.
Also it will be a travesty if we don't get the same VAs and music director. So, soooooo good.
Yeah, I should be focusing of what kind of game it's going to be (action RPG) and not what it isn't (character action game).
EvilKatarn
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Ok their modesty is sort of getting on my nerves when we're talking about something as serious as this.
Man up, Okabe! This needs to happen 100%.
I do recall journalists raking Nier over hot coals(especially cause of the minigames, i forget which website that rage quitted and gave the game a 1 because he could not complete fishing)
But on the flipside, i do remember many journalists, praising the art deco, music, atmosphere, characters and story(a few reviewers even going as far as to say it was one of the greatest stories ever in gaming)
So there obviously was something there that the cult fans of Yoko Taro's games like myself saw that SE also saw and wanted to keep investing in for whatever purpose they might have.
My issue was that everything except the technical polish and actual gameplay was there in full effect. Nier got very close to being decent, but Drakengard 1 was basically just a mediocre dynasty warriors clone and Drakengard 3 was just a jank repetitive mess AND a technical mess as well..
So Platinum coming in and actually giving that sturdy backbone to the 'franchise' that Cavia and someone like Access games could not give is something very excited.
But on the flipside, i do remember many journalists, praising the art deco, music, atmosphere, characters and story(a few reviewers even going as far as to say it was one of the greatest stories ever in gaming)
So there obviously was something there that the cult fans of Yoko Taro's games like myself saw that SE also saw and wanted to keep investing in for whatever purpose they might have.
My issue was that everything except the technical polish and actual gameplay was there in full effect. Nier got very close to being decent, but Drakengard 1 was basically just a mediocre dynasty warriors clone and Drakengard 3 was just a jank repetitive mess AND a technical mess as well..
So Platinum coming in and actually giving that sturdy backbone to the 'franchise' that Cavia and someone like Access games could not give is something very excited.
We get the same music director, Keiichi Okabe is back for this project.
As for the combat and storytelling itself, this post by Seyavesh should put your mind at ease. It's a gamespot articule that show more insight on the collaboration between the two parties.
lmfao
Is that the new Sia?
Windom Earle
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Same here. Some of those trophies were ridiculous. I still have nightmares of the gardening. :lol
lmfao
I love this guy.
Some hack at Joystick did this because he was not able to follow a red cross on the map.
BouncyFrag
Member
I've been playing Nier again today. The graphics are plain but the finishing magic spells look great and the music is timeless. The book got mad at me for accepting fetch quests and I just got fucked up by a boar, lol
Windom Earle
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People who missed the interview, it starts around 4:57 http://www.twitch.tv/squareenixpresents/v/6281654
Anything interesting from the interview?
Lmao does he have some social anxiety of some sort?
lmfao
Lmao does he have some social anxiety of some sort?
Windom Earle
Member
Fine Ham Abounds
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Nah he's just determined to induce it in others
Just started Nier for the first time today, bought a used copy a couple years ago but never got around to it.
Loving it so far, story and characters are interesting, there's a shit-talkin book, combat is decent enough, it's got a lovable amount of jank to it.
Soundtrack is god-tier so far. I'd never listened to it before but I've seen it mentioned in a lot of VGM threads here and now I know why, fuckin beautiful.
Kinda mad at myself for waiting this long to play it, I can see myself getting way too into this game.
Loving it so far, story and characters are interesting, there's a shit-talkin book, combat is decent enough, it's got a lovable amount of jank to it.
Soundtrack is god-tier so far. I'd never listened to it before but I've seen it mentioned in a lot of VGM threads here and now I know why, fuckin beautiful.
Kinda mad at myself for waiting this long to play it, I can see myself getting way too into this game.
YankeeDonB
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I don't know. He's very consistent with the whole not going on camera for interviews thing, regardless of venue. And in none of his interviews does he come off as sly or snarky or trollish.
I believe he doesn't WANT to be the face of his games, but would prefer they speak for themselves.
Cornbread78
Member
Oh yeah, enjoy it (4 times). The combat gets better as you level up.
I need to go back and get the C&D endings, lol.
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