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Woman records boyfriend after getting shot by the Police on Facebook

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Replace one noun in this sentence and you find the sentiment behind many police shootings. It's a very troubling mindset to have.

And the massive difference between the two is that someone scared of a police officer killing them will just try to avoid them. A scared police officer will shoot an unarmed man who was complying with their orders.

Implying there's fault on both sides is a troubling mindset to have.
 

pigeon

Banned
Replace one noun in this sentence and you find the sentiment behind many police shootings. It's a very troubling mindset to have.

To be specific, you replace a noun with another noun, except one of the nouns carries a weapon at all times and is legally allowed to kill the other noun whenever they want to with no consequences.

It's almost like the situations aren't equivalent.
 

ApharmdX

Banned
Has the NRA said anything about how a licensed carrier was deposed of his rights?

Of course not. Legal gun ownership is for whites, silly! So that they can protect themselves from blacks, browns, Muslims, or the federal government.

If the NRA would actually act on this incident, it would cause change... they are one of the most powerful political forces in America. However, law enforcement is an arm of the NRA. So it's not going to happen.
 

Poetaster

Banned
This video has got to be one of the most upsetting things I've ever seen. Here is a song I'm reminded of that was released almost 30 years ago, it's never stopped being relevant, and I don't ever seeing that changing. What a pathetic nation we are.
Police Related Death
 

Figboy79

Aftershock LA
A very unfortunate but human reaction to long-term fear that something will happen to you because of factors out of your control is to hyper-focus on factors you can control. And that leads to victim blaming.

Women can be the most harsh critics of rape victims because we all fear it can happen to us because we can't control the fact that we are women. But we can control who we talk to and what we dress like, so if you convince yourself that that's what is really important, that you can keep yourself from becoming a victim through acts that you control, your thinking can warp. Suddenly "I won't get raped because I dress modestly," goes from a personal talisman of irrational feelings of safety, to "Of course she got raped, she didn't dress as modestly as I do, that's the only thing that keeps us safe."

Your mom desperately, desperately wants to believe that she can control interactions with the cops so that this will never happen to her. And that fear and hope have mingled and twisted into something toxic. It is human, and it is sad, and it is worth calling out even through she doesn't want to hear.

Excellent post, and so, so true.
 

Cyriades

Member
Philando Castile Worked At A School, Loved Video Games, Before Cop Gunned Him Down

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...-we-know_us_577e77eae4b0344d514e2ae2?section=

They took a very good person ― and everybody that knows my son knows that he is a laid-back, quiet individual that works hard every day, pays taxes, and comes home and plays video games. That’s it,” she said. “I know he didn’t antagonize that officer in any way to make him feel like his life was in danger.”

I wonder did he ever visited neogaf..

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If it went down as he said to the woman, nothing. He told him to keep his hands where he can see them and the victim still grabbed for his ID, after telling the officer he was carrying and despite the officer telling him to stop it. If anything he will maybe be charged with excessive force, because shooting four shots just to make him stop grabbing for his ID is overkill. TBH if I was a cop and telling an armed person to stop moving and he wouldn't I probably would shoot too.

"Grabbed for his ID."

Fuck this shit. I don't know if you're white or black, but you are parroting a racist narrative. Black people "loot," white people "find," etc.

They "stop moving" pretty good when you shoot them dead.
 

MIMIC

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The apathy toward human life in these circumstances is piercing.

Why does that police officer have his gun pointed at a man that is bleeding to death? What could POSSIBLY be threatening about a man that is dying before your very eyes?
 

mkenyon

Banned
The apathy toward human life in these circumstances is piercing.

Why does that police officer have his gun pointed at a man that is bleeding to death? What could POSSIBLY be threatening about a man that is dying before your very eyes?
Because he lost his shit, he's crying and clearly distraught at the fucking awful mistake he just made. There's no rational thought going on, just pure emotional distress.
 
Because he lost his shit, he's crying and clearly distraught at the fucking awful mistake he just made. There's no rational thought going on, just pure emotional distress.

He was rational enough to tell the woman to keep her hands still though. So even after all that he was still scared that she was going to go for a weapon.
 
As much as I think the NRA is a moronic, fear mongering institution what in the world do they have to do with armed police?
Their staunch opposition to common sense gun control helped to create a culture and economy where anyone could be carrying anytime, and most actual criminals probably are. The police are constantly dealing with potential criminals who they expect to be a mortal danger to their person.
 

PopeReal

Member
The apathy toward human life in these circumstances is piercing.

Why does that police officer have his gun pointed at a man that is bleeding to death? What could POSSIBLY be threatening about a man that is dying before your very eyes?

Apathy among Americans is even more astounding to me. So many just don't care. Some even openly celebrate.
 

GaimeGuy

Volunteer Deputy Campaign Director, Obama for America '16
None of the cops bothered to administer first aid. Did they even call paramedics? Guarantee you if someone called in "officer down" an emergency response team of firefighters, EMTS, a dozen patrol cars, and the police chief would have been there minutes before the 2 backup officers arrived.
 
Nah, just resorting to super basic training because he can't process anything.

In that case it's a good job the woman was able to process what was going on. I dread to think what could have happened if she let emotion take over and put her hands on her dying boyfriend. Kind of fucked up that she was more in control of herself than a trained professional was.
 

mkenyon

Banned
In that case it's a good job the woman was able to process what was going on. I dread to think what could have happened if she let emotion take over and put her hands on her dying boyfriend. Kind of fucked up that she was more in control of herself than a trained professional was.
Yup. That's the thing that struck me from the video. Truly chilling.
 
The frightening part is how easy this happened.

I can very easily imagine myself being stopped and not knowing why, making the same pronouncement to the officer as a CCW license carrier and instinctively going to put my hands back up after being told not to reach down anymore since it was probably my original position. Or just a position people assume. Only to get shot for my trouble.

Fix this shit, America. I'm too tired to ask too many more times.

https://twitter.com/TooMuchMe/status/751076078458986496

NRA has no comment right now and says they might not comment at all

this is openly racist if you ask me

If they won't jump to the defense of this licensed concealed weapons carrier, I think we'll now why.
 
God, now I'm really really getting scared. I dread the day I ever get pulled over by a cop, I hope that doesn't happen. Now each time I leave for work, or leave for home, I best make sure all tail lights still work.
 
I was a passenger in a car when my friend got pulled over in what they thought was a stolen car. It was his car. Cop pulled his gun on us, told us to put our hands on the roof so we raised our hands. When he pulled my friend out of the drivers seat to cuff him my hands started to come down. When he noticed he leaned inside the car and pointed the gun right at my face screaming to show my hands or he was going to blow my head off. I raised my hands again. Thank god im not dead.
 

F34R

Member
Wow.

I know I stopped dozens of people that were licensed for conceal carry, and they always let me know. My first response was always a calm "Thank you sir/ma'am for letting me know". Never during those encounters did I ever feel uneasy about the situation. This is deplorable to say the least. Hard to get my mind around this one.
 
I think a lot of the vehement denial in accepting racism and institutional racism is that it will force the beneficiaries of systemic racism to acknowledge that perhaps the great things they've achieved weren't solely because of their own talent and merit. A lot of people work really hard to get where they're at, and the idea that even just a smidgen of that success can be attributed to white privilege and institutional racism rankles their feathers. It's a shattering of their world view. A world view in which we're all told that all we have to do is work hard, keep your head straight, and you'll achieve your dreams. The little caveat is that being a white male in America will give you a few extra stat points and XP to get a leg up. Being a minority generally has you enter the game with negative stat points and zero XP.

That idea is upsetting to those people. It's easier to just deny that they have had a leg up by virtue of being born white, because accepting the truth of that makes them feel dirty. I can understand it. Nobody wants to be told that what they've worked really hard for has a taint on it. There are self made people from every walk of life, for sure, but it's undeniable that being born a white person in America grants you a few extra concessions. I mean, look at the story earlier this week, where that young white guy was talking some mad fucking shit to police, and being overall belligerent, and what did he get for it? A smug mug shot and some time in jail. This black man, who was pulled over for a busted tail light, told the officer that he had a permit to carry a firearm, was armed, and was just reaching for his identification like the officer ordered, and what did it get him? Four bullets and a trip six feet under. I can't fabricate a clearer instance of white privilege than what has happened in reality just this week.

You had people in that thread praising the guy as a hero for sticking it to the man, but there are already people digging in the dirt to victim blame this young black man and father. It's sickening, and depressing, and, as a black man, frustrating.

Black people aren't asking that white people get brutalized by police in order for things to be equal. Black people are asking that police officers stop brutalizing them and treat them like human beings. Suspects, sure, but human beings none-the-less. This isn't some eye for an eye call to action. It's a call to empathy. I know criminals are criminals, but they are still due some level of human rights when being apprehended and brought in. A routine traffic stop shouldn't end in their deaths, whether saint or sinner.

Goddamn is this an excellent post. I had to walk away from my desk.
 
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