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[Bitch Pudding]

Wow, looks like Abdiel has been christened 'Sony rep' here, that's (at least) two months of passive aggressive shit against him in a row.

What's the XBox Slim/OG split then? because OG seems forgotten about, but I'm sure they must be selling some with the firesales.

Jep, he doesn't deserve this shoot the messenger-bullshit. I am truly glad for his regular insights about what's happening in his stores and the effort he makes to share those here. And I for one think he's rather objective in his assessments.

 

[Jumeira]

Best Sellers in Video Games for October 2016 - Amazon
#47 PS4 Slim Uncharted Bundle
#57 PS4
#61 PS4 Uncharted 4 Bundle
#91 X1 S Madden 1TB Bundle
#93 X1 S Gears 2TB Bundle
#98 X1 S Battlefield 1TB Bundle

Heheh. I always wince when people use Amazon charts as an a wider indicator of sales.

 

[Theorry]

XBOX One S does a great job, it delivers proper value for money, has proper services, unique features, and proper games, at least for the audiences in US and UK.

That said, the upcoming offical presentation / arrival of Scorpio will affect XBOX One S sales soon enough. But apparently not now,so it seems like the very early announcement didn't jeopardize MS' holiday sales, for all we know.

Isnt the biggest group of people waiting to jump in when consoles are arround 200 bucks or lower?

 

[GribbleGrunger]

Heheh. I always wince when people use Amazon charts as an a wider indicator of sales.

I winced for the three years Amazon was right and still people kept saying it's not reliable. You can't use 4 months of data to indicate that the previous 3 years was a 'fluke'. What it indicates is something has changed. But I'm logical and I know it's an alien concept for some.

 

[Hammer24]

Jep, he doesn't deserve this shoot the messenger-bullshit. I am truly glad for his regular insights about what's happening in his stores and the effort he makes to share those here. And I for one think he's rather objective in his assessments.

Consider me on the other end of the spectrum. He's the reason I'm not going to the prediction threads anymore.
There is constant Sony flag waving, a short empty word about MS and total ignorance towards Nintendo. I'd be willing to accept this kind of fanboyism from any member, but not from someone with such a tag, where one expects true insights.

 

[Bits N Pieces]

Jep, he doesn't deserve this shoot the messenger-bullshit. I am truly glad for his regular insights about what's happening in his stores and the effort he makes to share those here. And I for one think he's rather objective in his assessments.

He works at retail, right? So when Amazon has the PS4 handily outpacing and beating the Xbox over the last few months that means they must be selling a lot of Xbox's at retail, right?

The post I commented on sounded awfully PR-esque, I was almost expecting to see bullet points, lol.

Im just commenting on a thread about October NPD and have been far from 'passive aggressive', I genuinely found the form and tone of that post amusing. Sorry that seems to have affected some of you.

 

[AnthonypUK]

I for one hope that it lights some extra generosity on Sony’s ass so that they’ll at least try to match some of the more generous deals MS has been dealing out. I could do with a 399 PS4 Pro bundle with multiple games instead of just one game sooner rather than later.

I don't think it will, Theres been too many months where they've seen the volume of consoles be below the Xbox in the US, and they have not responded at all, they've just kept on with their plans for PSVR and Pro and the UC4 bundle.

From what i remember from Aquas leaked numbers, the first 2 of the 4 month's Xbox won, Sony had more Revenue despite the less sales volume. Sony seem to be the milking profit phase, thats the only reasoning i can see for them not to be more aggressive.

The COD and BF bundles last year were massive, but surely cost Sony to get them, this year they have the Uncharted bundle? the US has proven it doesn't really care about Uncharted as much as the ROW so its not enticing. They could have priced the slim more competitively at launch, yet they went with 299, when they must be saving plenty of costs on the revision.

I bet they figure the revenue they get from having a bundle with a zero cost first party game, outweighs the Revenue they'd get from paying for the COD pack in. Maybe they also figured this COD wouldn't push consoles like BLOPS did. Is their a watchdogs 2 bundle in the US?

Adding the fact that no Pro's have enticing bundles (the reason why i don't have one) and i think its clear to see Sony aren't going for volume, they're going for Revenue.

Will it work for them? we'll see when it comes to Quarterly reporting next February, and Software splits will be interesting too, as with their increased Volume, Xbox should be eating into Sonys pie.

 

[Anticol]

End of 2018 at this rate of selling 30 to 50K more each month.

It's 1.5 million behind.

So they still need 2 years to catch up in America and they will probably never catch up worldwide, then why people are talking like the ps4 is done?

 

[Conduit]

The post I commented on sounded awfully PR-esque, I was almost expecting to see bullet points, lol.

But your post was stupid, man. Really! Weird that you didn't commented anything when Abdiel ( around a week ago ) mentioned that Xbone sold better at Best Buy. Now you mock him. You're pathetic.

 

[Rowlet]

People are underestimating the effect 4k playback had on the xbox one slim. The fact that Sony not only ignored it in their slim model, but the pro as-well will allow Microsoft to forge a larger userbase of people looking for next generation visual experience. Hell, i will be picking the Scorpio over the Pro because of 4k playback alone.

 

[Theorry]

People are underestimating the effect 4k playback had on the xbox one slim. The fact that Sony not only ignored it in their slim model, but the pro as-well will allow Microsoft to forge a larger userbase of people looking for next generation visual experience. Hell, i will be picking the Scorpio over the Pro because of 4k playback alone.

I am the only one hoping they come with two versions? One with a disc drive and one with no disc drive. I am not at all intrested in discs and 4k bluray and i am all digital. I gladly would take a cheaper priced Scorpio version without a disc drive.

Is that likely btw. Or is a disc drive not that much different cost wise?

 

[wapplew]

So they still need 2 years to catch up in America and they will probably never catch up worldwide, then why people are talking like the ps4 is done?

Worldwide still waiting for that Xbox one Sexy, we'll get better picture once it release for the rest of the world, never say never.

 

[Shpeshal Nick]

4 of my friends bought The Pro day one and non of them Have a 4k. I am The only one Who has a 4k and bought The Pro. The Pro will outsell Xbox

Holy shit 4!?

 

[Renekton]

Holy shit 4!?

oh my gawd that meme again D:

 

[Trup1aya]

What's the XBox Slim/OG split then? because OG seems forgotten about, but I'm sure they must be selling some with the firesales.

I think that's where it gets interesting. Just as the 1S coexists with the OG xb1, the slim coexists with the OG PS4.

New users found the Xbox options to be more compelling- likely because of prices, bundles and features.

There's also the idea that MS has more opportunity to sell to new users because fewer people already have xboxes. So many people already have PS4s, perhaps the slim/ogps4 doesn't have as many people to target. Meanwhile, the 1S may be attractive as a second console to PS4 owners, especially since it has UHD and a growing back compat library to differentiate

I winced for the three years Amazon was right and still people kept saying it's not reliable. You can't use 4 months of data to indicate that the previous 3 years was a 'fluke'. What it indicates is something has changed. But I'm logical and I know it's an alien concept for some.

It's all about having a reliable sample. Logic would tell you that Amazon's sample was biased in October because it's stock was not an accurate representation of what was available on the market.

Using Amazon as an industry gauge for October was illogical. Regardless of how accurate Amazon had been in the past- biased sample will yield biased results.

 

[Bits N Pieces]

But your post was stupid, man. Really! Weird that you didn't commented anything when Abdiel ( around a week ago ) mentioned that Xbone sold better at Best Buy. Now you mock him. You're pathetic.

I can't comment on every post that someone makes - cause I obviously don't see them all.

Like i said previously, try not to get too worked about it

 

[Conduit]

I can't comment on every post that someone makes - cause I obviously don't see them all.

Whether you see it or not, your post related to Abdiel is goddamn stupid.

 

[Clear]

PS4 slim did nothing LOL. Between that and VR i don't know if PS4 pro is going to be any different

If Pro's going to mean nothing, what does that say about Scorpio?

Essentially the success of the XBone S says that games performance doesn't matter, because its still less powerful than the stock PS4, and the Pro is significantly stronger than both.

For me, the most logical reading at this point is to conclude that having a "better" sku imminent, dilutes sales in the short-term leading up to release because it leaves potential new buyers with a strong reason to wait and see.

The exact same phenomenon is going to face Scorpio.

 

[Trup1aya]

If Pro's going to mean nothing, what does that say about Scorpio?

Essentially the success of the XBone S says that games performance doesn't matter, because its still less powerful than the stock PS4, and the Pro is significantly stronger than both.

For me, the most logical reading at this point is to conclude that having a "better" sku imminent, dilutes sales in the short-term leading up to release because it leaves potential new buyers with a strong reason to wait and see.

The exact same phenomenon is going to face Scorpio.

I don't think the "wait and see" phenomenon will have much effect, because most new buyers are motivated by price over all else. By the time Scorpio comes out, potential new buyers will have already waited 4 years for lower Xbox prices.

 

[Abdiel]

Good ol' Sony. Don't worry folks, they'll destroy it next month, lol.

Really? That's what you got from my post, on that page where people were talking about November and December, and how Pro will influence things?

Right. Anyway, yes, in the predictions thread, I had called out XB1S as having the win for the month previously for our locations, so this really just fell in line with that. What else do you want me to say? We don't have a formal NPD thread until the numbers release next week, this is the closest thing where people were speculating.

And to the gentleman who says I'm apparently 'flag waving', and showing ignorance towards Nintendo - What? What are you even talking about? I offer clear cut breakdowns of the major competitors as I've always done, and if you have some kind of concerns or issues with my about Nintendo, please feel free to PM me so I can address you, rather than acting like a pariah. I don't talk about the Wii U much because there's frankly very little to say, and the 3DS can vary wildly, especially with specific trends and the disparate release schedule for it.

I have made it clear that I personally game on Sony platforms, but I still actively sell these other platforms in my stores and work to provide positive commentary on them, which is one of the things I enjoy about GAF is seeing the passion people have for their platforms, as I can often translate that to my customers, even if I don't personally have the same investment. I've repeatedly stated since the XBO S came out that they've made a great product that clearly reshapes the product messaging and adds some excellent feathers in their caps. How this translates to me somehow being against MS is beyond me.

 

[Detective]

Really? That's what you got from my post, on that page where people were talking about November and December, and how Pro will influence things?

Right. Anyway, yes, in the predictions thread, I had called out XB1S as having the win for the month previously for our locations, so this really just fell in line with that. What else do you want me to say? We don't have a formal NPD thread until the numbers release next week, this is the closest thing where people were speculating.

And to the gentleman who says I'm apparently 'flag waving', and showing ignorance towards Nintendo - What? What are you even talking about? I offer clear cut breakdowns of the major competitors as I've always done, and if you have some kind of concerns or issues with my about Nintendo, please feel free to PM me so I can address you, rather than acting like a pariah. I don't talk about the Wii U much because there's frankly very little to say, and the 3DS can vary wildly, especially with specific trends and the disparate release schedule for it.

I have made it clear that I personally game on Sony platforms, but I still actively sell these other platforms in my stores and work to provide positive commentary on them, which is one of the things I enjoy about GAF is seeing the passion people have for their platforms, as I can often translate that to my customers, even if I don't personally have the same investment. I've repeatedly stated since the XBO S came out that they've made a great product that clearly reshapes the product messaging and adds some excellent feathers in their caps. How this translates to me somehow being against MS is beyond me.

Why dont you reread your previous post?

Your are in a thread where xbox won the month, you start your post about writing a wall of text about Sony and their shipment and how you are satisfied with it. You start with how good Its for Pro and how it exceeded you expectations.

Than you write a spree about black Friday where you present the Sony bundles and what's included in them, and a solution for a more attractive one.

And lastly you close your post with Xbox offering as Generic.

Maybe its that?

 

[stpfarms]

Really? That's what you got from my post, on that page where people were talking about November and December, and how Pro will influence things?

Right. Anyway, yes, in the predictions thread, I had called out XB1S as having the win for the month previously for our locations, so this really just fell in line with that. What else do you want me to say? We don't have a formal NPD thread until the numbers release next week, this is the closest thing where people were speculating.

And to the gentleman who says I'm apparently 'flag waving', and showing ignorance towards Nintendo - What? What are you even talking about? I offer clear cut breakdowns of the major competitors as I've always done, and if you have some kind of concerns or issues with my about Nintendo, please feel free to PM me so I can address you, rather than acting like a pariah. I don't talk about the Wii U much because there's frankly very little to say, and the 3DS can vary wildly, especially with specific trends and the disparate release schedule for it.

I have made it clear that I personally game on Sony platforms, but I still actively sell these other platforms in my stores and work to provide positive commentary on them, which is one of the things I enjoy about GAF is seeing the passion people have for their platforms, as I can often translate that to my customers, even if I don't personally have the same investment. I've repeatedly stated since the XBO S came out that they've made a great product that clearly reshapes the product messaging and adds some excellent feathers in their caps. How this translates to me somehow being against MS is beyond me.

Keep doing what your doing and ignore the hate. Someone out there will always take issue about anything.

 

[pitchfork]

Best Sellers in Video Games for October 2016 - Amazon
#47 PS4 Slim Uncharted Bundle
#57 PS4
#61 PS4 Uncharted 4 Bundle
#91 X1 S Madden 1TB Bundle
#93 X1 S Gears 2TB Bundle
#98 X1 S Battlefield 1TB Bundle

Ha! that Greenberg pic!

I know he gets a lot of grief on here, but the geezer fucking cracks me up : )

 

[c0de]

Really? That's what you got from my post, on that page where people were talking about November and December, and how Pro will influence things?

Right. Anyway, yes, in the predictions thread, I had called out XB1S as having the win for the month previously for our locations, so this really just fell in line with that. What else do you want me to say? We don't have a formal NPD thread until the numbers release next week, this is the closest thing where people were speculating.

And to the gentleman who says I'm apparently 'flag waving', and showing ignorance towards Nintendo - What? What are you even talking about? I offer clear cut breakdowns of the major competitors as I've always done, and if you have some kind of concerns or issues with my about Nintendo, please feel free to PM me so I can address you, rather than acting like a pariah. I don't talk about the Wii U much because there's frankly very little to say, and the 3DS can vary wildly, especially with specific trends and the disparate release schedule for it.

I have made it clear that I personally game on Sony platforms, but I still actively sell these other platforms in my stores and work to provide positive commentary on them, which is one of the things I enjoy about GAF is seeing the passion people have for their platforms, as I can often translate that to my customers, even if I don't personally have the same investment. I've repeatedly stated since the XBO S came out that they've made a great product that clearly reshapes the product messaging and adds some excellent feathers in their caps. How this translates to me somehow being against MS is beyond me.

Not really against MS but your tone regarding Xbox/MS is quite different to what you have to say about Sony/Playstation.
It's ok to have a preference, though, for sure. Just don't pretend to be objective when your posts say otherwise.

 

[ViolentP]

Why dont you reread your previous post?

Your are in a thread where xbox won the month, you start your post about writing a wall of text about Sony and their shipment and how you are satisfied with it. You start with how good Its for Pro and how it exceeded you expectations.

Than you write a spree about black Friday where you present the Sony bundles and what's included in them, and a solution for a more attractive one.

And lastly you close your post with Xbox offering as Generic.

Maybe its that?

Why would any of that upset you?

 

[Anticol]

Worldwide still waiting for that Xbox one Sexy, we'll get better picture once it release for the rest of the world, never say never.

Are you serious? PS4 has a ~22 million gap, I would love to hear the case where the Xbox one will not only close the gap but overtake the PS4 on worldwide sales, please enlighten me.

 

[ramparter]

The concentration on Sony from bish-checked members is really strange to observe on this site.

What bishChecked means?

 

[SwolBro]

Are you serious? PS4 has a ~22 million gap, I would love to hear the case where the Xbox one will not only close the gap but overtake the PS4 on worldwide sales, please enlighten me.

it won't world wide but i'm confident it will in the U.S. i think we're seeing a surge of xbox 360 owners finally come over.

 

[unapersson]

People are underestimating the effect 4k playback had on the xbox one slim. The fact that Sony not only ignored it in their slim model, but the pro as-well will allow Microsoft to forge a larger userbase of people looking for next generation visual experience. Hell, i will be picking the Scorpio over the Pro because of 4k playback alone.

I just think Sony are more interested in revenue from 4K gaming, they've experienced being the most popular platform for enthusiast media playback (Blu-ray) and it may just be that they don't want to pay a premium to be in that position again. Selling lots of consoles to movie buffs who don't care about the games when they have a standalone player coming next year. They don't need to promote the format if Microsoft are doing it for them, and I don't see as much enthusiasm for it as they had for blu-ray.

 

[c0de]

What bishChecked means?

Guy pretends to have insider information, bish approaches, checks, guy is legit, tag.
In this case, we have a sales insider, giving us some information on some stores.

 

[Abdiel]

Why dont you reread your previous post?

Your are in a thread where xbox won the month, you start your post about writing a wall of text about Sony and their shipment and how you are satisfied with it. You start with how good Its for Pro and how it exceeded you expectations.

Than you write a spree about black Friday where you present the Sony bundles and what's included in them, and a solution for a more attractive one.

And lastly you close your post with Xbox offering as Generic.

Sigh.

I'm satisfied because it means we have plenty of inventory. I made similar comments about the initial shipments of most new hardware, regardless of company. It means we have plenty to work with. My apologies if using an NPD thread where discussion was taking place is somehow weird.

And yes! The xbox listing we have is generic, I don't really get it. It's just a reduced system price that is already a "bundle", but nothing on top of it. Target and Wal-Mart are doing better deals for the system, from what I've seen listed, our ps4 one is still something I've been giving a hard time since the slim came out. That's called reading our offerings.

Honestly, I'm more just trying to clear the air so if people actually felt like they had some kind of concerns, I could address them, but acting like I had an agenda for my post is silly.

 

[viHuGi]

So they still need 2 years to catch up in America and they will probably never catch up worldwide, then why people are talking like the ps4 is done?

Dude it's Neogaf, remember 2010 over here NPDs? Doom and Gloom for Ps3 and in the end Ps3 won in sales WW by some difference.

 

[digoutyoursoul]

Dude it's Neogaf, remember 2010 over here NPDs? Doom and Gloom for Ps3 and in the end Ps3 won in sales WW by some difference.

What are the numbers?

 

[digoutyoursoul]

Why would any of that upset you?

How do you know they are upset?

 

[ViolentP]

How do you know they are upset?

It's apparent.

 

[Diprosalic]

Is this XBox improving or Sony declining?

Annectodal evidence but the Pro didn't exactly fly from the shelves here i europe. Available in huge quantities everywhere. Then again, X1S did not improve much on the horrible sales of the XB1. Seems like both are in a bad state right now internationally.

 

[digoutyoursoul]

It's apparent.

Asking questions of someone is being upset?

 

[Nightengale]

I don't think it will, Theres been too many months where they've seen the volume of consoles be below the Xbox in the US, and they have not responded at all, they've just kept on with their plans for PSVR and Pro and the UC4 bundle.

4 month =/= many months.

Also, as you said, they have Pro plans, which I would imagine they believe would be a spark plug to ignite sales. Pro is their response which hasn't proven itself yet.

The COD and BF bundles last year were massive, but surely cost Sony to get them, this year they have the Uncharted bundle? the US has proven it doesn't really care about Uncharted as much as the ROW so its not enticing. They could have priced the slim more competitively at launch, yet they went with 299, when they must be saving plenty of costs on the revision.

Europe/Asia has CoD: IW+MW bundle and WD1+WD2 bundle , so it's not true that Sony doesn't have bundles. Sony "USA", for some reason, has refused to bring them over day-and-date with rest of the world.

Welfare posted a valid theory that Sony is presumably leaving those bundles for December, and will instead ride Pro and 249 UC4 bundles + additional deals for November. But my belief is that they should bring it as soon as they can in November instead of holding off post-BF.

Adding the fact that no Pro's have enticing bundles (the reason why i don't have one) and i think its clear to see Sony aren't going for volume, they're going for Revenue.

No Pro bundle is very simple. It's a launch hardware that is aimed at enthusiast. Just like how PS4 and XB1 launched vanilla without any enticing bundles, Sony is treating Pro like a new console, and that @$399, the console will sell itself without needing to add any enticement factors until after launch window.

It's why many consoles don't introduce many colours out-the-gate and sick bundles. New colours are there to entice and excite the product to increase sales after sales slow down.

PS4 Pro can sell itself at launch. Introduction of new colours and enticing bundles will come later after launch to "re-energise" sales post-launch. It's a typical business move.

 

[mejin]

Really? That's what you got from my post, on that page where people were talking about November and December, and how Pro will influence things?

Right. Anyway, yes, in the predictions thread, I had called out XB1S as having the win for the month previously for our locations, so this really just fell in line with that. What else do you want me to say? We don't have a formal NPD thread until the numbers release next week, this is the closest thing where people were speculating.

And to the gentleman who says I'm apparently 'flag waving', and showing ignorance towards Nintendo - What? What are you even talking about? I offer clear cut breakdowns of the major competitors as I've always done, and if you have some kind of concerns or issues with my about Nintendo, please feel free to PM me so I can address you, rather than acting like a pariah. I don't talk about the Wii U much because there's frankly very little to say, and the 3DS can vary wildly, especially with specific trends and the disparate release schedule for it.

I have made it clear that I personally game on Sony platforms, but I still actively sell these other platforms in my stores and work to provide positive commentary on them, which is one of the things I enjoy about GAF is seeing the passion people have for their platforms, as I can often translate that to my customers, even if I don't personally have the same investment. I've repeatedly stated since the XBO S came out that they've made a great product that clearly reshapes the product messaging and adds some excellent feathers in their caps. How this translates to me somehow being against MS is beyond me.

You're going mental if you start to quote every aggressive post here.

People have some kind of repressed anger for those last 3 years.

Edit.: Anyway, I'm grateful for your insights.

 

[DasPenguin]

So they still need 2 years to catch up in America and they will probably never catch up worldwide, then why people are talking like the ps4 is done?

Yeah, you can leave that word out completely. There is absolutely zero chance that Xbox catches the PS4 worldwide in this gen. Well, if Sony stops selling consoles at the end of this year for good, then it's possible.

People don't understand the pull that Sony has in Europe. They are basically giving away OG Xbox One's here in Scandinavia. Bought mine dirt cheap, but the masses don't care one bit.

If you go to the bigger stores, there's barely any games on sale for Xbox One. The video game section in supermarkets is basically 80 % sony, 20 % Xbox. Have no idea where you could even find a Wii U at this point. During the last gen 360 and PS3 were pretty much 50/50.

 

[ViolentP]

Asking questions of someone is being upset?

It's not about asking, it's about how you ask. You should know this by now. Why are you defending him anyway? He hasn't done anything wrong.

 

[digoutyoursoul]

It's not about asking, it's about how you ask. You should know this by now. Why are you defending him anyway? He hasn't done anything wrong.

"It's about how you ask" yes I'm aware of that since a very young age

I'm not defending him. I'm asking why you thought he was upset? Thats it.

 

[Jarod McChicken]

We are not in the official Xbox festival thread as far as I understand, we are discussing NPD and US market situation as a whole, so Abdiel's confirmation about how the PS4 Pro did at launch is not only welcome but an obvious necessity. The PS4 Pro launch just happened to be the same day we learned about the october results.

 

[Elandyll]

Heheh. I always wince when people use Amazon charts as an a wider indicator of sales.

Well frankly it's the first time it's that wrong, without really clear explanation beside the Walmart and Gamestop discounts on OG XB1 bundles.

It has before been wrong occasionally, but it always seemed there were clear indicators why, if you were reading between the lines (like that month where a PS4 bundle was top of hardware, but close enough you had 2-3 XB1 Skus right after it).

Afaik Amazon is still 10%+ of the market, no?

 

[ViolentP]

"It's about how you ask" yes I'm aware of that since a very young age

I'm not defending him. I'm asking why you thought he was upset? Thats it.

Read his post. He isn't simply asking questions, he's using adversarial terminology to refer to the points the poster he quoted was making. You're always going to have people that think differently than you, it's one of the better parts of community driven forums. But it really shouldn't be allowed to become upsetting.

 

[digoutyoursoul]

Read his post. He isn't simply asking questions, he's using adversarial terminology to refer to the points the poster he quoted was making. You're always going to have people that think differently than you, it's one of the better parts of community driven forums. But it really shouldn't be allowed to become upsetting.

I have read his post and I didn't get a upset vibe which is why I asked you, why you thought differently. That's it. No harm is there?

 

[ViolentP]

I have read his post and I didn't get a upset vibe which is why I asked you, why you thought differently. That's it. No harm is there?

No harm at all. His post just read as upset to me. I asked him only to say it isn't worth it. Even if there was bias in what he was addressing, people want what they want. It isn't hurting anyone.

 

[digoutyoursoul]

No harm at all. His post just read as upset to me. I asked him only to say it isn't worth it. Even if there was bias in what he was addressing, people want what they want. It isn't hurting anyone.

Very true mate

 

[Bitch Pudding]

Why dont you reread your previous post?

Your are in a thread where xbox won the month, you start your post about writing a wall of text about Sony and their shipment and how you are satisfied with it. You start with how good Its for Pro and how it exceeded you expectations.

Than you write a spree about black Friday where you present the Sony bundles and what's included in them, and a solution for a more attractive one.

And lastly you close your post with Xbox offering as Generic.

Maybe its that?

Yeah, why the hell is he talking about sales in a sales thread™. In case you didn't realize, this is not an XBOX-only thread, it's about NPD October results.

 

[gypsygib]

XB1 bundle prices are much better than PS4's in Canada.