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CaviarMeths
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Spider-Man '02 will always have that wow factor due to being the first time the hero appeared on the silver screen and being a groundbreaking superhero movie in the same way that Superman '78 and Batman '89 were.
Remove that, and I think Homecoming is the better movie. I wouldn't say it's better than Spider-Man 2, but it's pretty comfortably the 2nd best Spider-Man movie to date.
Remove that, and I think Homecoming is the better movie. I wouldn't say it's better than Spider-Man 2, but it's pretty comfortably the 2nd best Spider-Man movie to date.
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broncobuster
Banned
Personally, I think it's because it's a nice steady line of good. So while there's no No Man's Land scene that's above and beyond, it also doesn't stumble towards the end.
Reminds me of The Force Awakens in that regard.
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PhoncipleBone
Banned
Just watched the Sam Raimi Spider-Man movie for the first time. I'll watch 2 tomorrow. It was pretty decent. I liked it OK! I think I liked Homecoming a good bit more, but I'm not sure how much of that has to do with my level of familiarity with the MCU versus... well, anything else, really.
Dunst and Dafoe were great.
Dunst and Dafoe were great.
PhoncipleBone
Banned
The build up to the "He's back!" moment in Spidey 2 still gets me more hype than anything else in any comic book movie. That build up, then culminating in the clock tower/train fight is so damn good.
We had over an hour of Peter being shit on in every direction, both personally and professionally (both masked and unmasked jobs), then he finally just snaps back into hero mode. The music building, JJJ losing it, then culminating in this shot as the theme flares.
That moment, like many of the best moments in the Raimi films, are cheesy, but obviously loving homages to old school super hero comics and adaptations of them.
Ugh. I think I will be watching Spider-Man 2 tomorrow.
The first two Raimi films are just love letters to the silver age Spider-Man stuff. Homecoming is modern age Spidey/Ultimate brought to wonderful life.
We had over an hour of Peter being shit on in every direction, both personally and professionally (both masked and unmasked jobs), then he finally just snaps back into hero mode. The music building, JJJ losing it, then culminating in this shot as the theme flares.
That moment, like many of the best moments in the Raimi films, are cheesy, but obviously loving homages to old school super hero comics and adaptations of them.
Ugh. I think I will be watching Spider-Man 2 tomorrow.
The first two Raimi films are just love letters to the silver age Spider-Man stuff. Homecoming is modern age Spidey/Ultimate brought to wonderful life.
PhoncipleBone
Banned
I just question why you would watch it again. I haven't convinced myself (or had enough booze) to watch it a single time, and I love me some Grimlock. But mainly 80s Marvel comic Grimlock.
It was on and i was walking through the room
We need Raimi back doing superhero movies. Here's hoping he gets Flash and DC is smart enough to just let him do what he wants.The build up to the "He's back!" moment in Spidey 2 still gets me more hype than anything else in any comic book movie. That build up, then culminating in the clock tower/train fight is so damn good.
We had over an hour of Peter being shit on in every direction, both personally and professionally (both masked and unmasked jobs), then he finally just snaps back into hero mode. The music building, JJJ losing it, then culminating in this shot as the theme flares.
That moment, like many of the best moments in the Raimi films, are cheesy, but obviously loving homages to old school super hero comics and adaptations of them.
Ugh. I think I will be watching Spider-Man 2 tomorrow.
The first two Raimi films are just love letters to the silver age Spider-Man stuff. Homecoming is modern age Spidey/Ultimate brought to wonderful life.
I can agree with this. I did really enjoy Homecoming though
Guardians 2 opened weak and WW fumbled its final boss, so I'd place Homecoming above them.
Logan is untouchable
George Oscar Bluth II
Banned
I dunno, Scott Derickson's approach to Doctor Strange was anything special for the most part.
PhoncipleBone
Banned
So the film is an encephalo beam. Got it. I shall make a point to avoid it then.
The Last Knight makes even less sense than that.
How is that possible?
Just got back from Spiderman, it was ok. Not really into this high school thing and Spidernoob. Wasn't really interested in seeing Peter "learn" to be Spiderman again, though I suppose this had to be the case. Logan was king this year..probably put it 4th on my list so far.
Logan
Guardians 2
Wonder Woman
Spiderman Homecoming.
Logan
Guardians 2
Wonder Woman
Spiderman Homecoming.
PhoncipleBone
Banned
They are at least not Batman v Superman bad. More like slow motion train wrecks you can't look away from but you know you should.
It's pretty incredible. The Last Knight has like 5 plotlines going on at once, none of which make any fuckin sense.
They're worse, easily. Age of Extinction is the most painful 3 hour theater experience I've ever had. That movie felt like 6 hours.
2 words make me want to see it "Nitro Zeus"
WhiteRabbitEXE
Member
I mean, the first one is surprisingly okay. Two is a straight up dumpster fire though, and yeah, it is that bad. All I remember is straight up racist robots and a gag about one giant-ass one having wrecking balls for testicles. Checked out of the series after that. Did catch a little of 3 on cable and it was pretty shit though.
PhoncipleBone
Banned
That makes me want to finally try Age of Extinction, oddly. Just to see if it is truly that awful.
But your description sounds like how BvS made me feel. I would rather watch Revenge of the Fallen again before BvS again.
Shit, I said it when BvS came out, but I would rather watch a 24 hour marathon of Green Lantern and X-Men Origins: Wolverine on loop than see BvS again.
The scene of Bumblebee transforming around Shia in the third one was pretty cool in theaters at least. I haven't seen it since opening day, but might punish myself again soon.
Age of Extinction is one of those movies that makes you feel every minute of it plus 5 more.
The Last Knight felt pretty brisk in regards to pacing so that alone made me like it more than AoE. Yeah, none of it made sense but I wasn't checking my watch every 10 minutes either.
Jesus christ lol.
Xmen wolverine is at least comically bad so will always be easier to sit through than alot of other bad super movies. Some of the CG work on xmow is just mind blowing on a level of this doesn't even make sense.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
Green Lantern and Wolverine are just bad. No spectacle. Nothing you can laugh at. At least with BvS you get some dumb spectacle and Wonder Woman. I think I fell asleep to Wolverine. I've yet to see it in it's entirety.
Dash_Riprock
Member
The ONLY good thing that can be said about The Last Knight is that at least it didn't have a creepy Irish dude trying to justify statutory rape with a lamented card he kept in his wallet.
And I would still watch it over BvS every time.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
BvS is way better than The Last Knight.
The Last Knight made me give up hope for Bayformers, and that in itself is an achievement.
PhoncipleBone
Banned
GL and Origins are just bland as hell. There is nothing particularly good or awful about either one besides how bland and boring they are. In a way, that makes them worse than many other films for me because I don't feel passionately one way or another about them. They just simply are. It was the same way I felt about Spider-Man 3.
Meanwhile, BvS just makes me angry and ashamed for the people who made it. I thought I was mad about Man of Steel, but BvS was a special level of horrible for a big budget comic film.
I am thankful that WB/DC knocked it out of the park with Wonder Woman. It gives me hope for their future films. I just hope JL doesn't immediately crush that hope under its boot.
Meanwhile, BvS just makes me angry and ashamed for the people who made it. I thought I was mad about Man of Steel, but BvS was a special level of horrible for a big budget comic film.
I am thankful that WB/DC knocked it out of the park with Wonder Woman. It gives me hope for their future films. I just hope JL doesn't immediately crush that hope under its boot.
Dash_Riprock
Member
All the the Bayformers films except maybe the first one were shit so even though The Last Knight was somehow the worst one yet by this point I am numb to the whole thing.
BvS on the other was the first on screen pairing of Bats and Supes ever, the true start of the DCEU and a bunch of other crap. While yeah, its a better film on a technical level, its utter failure on every conceivable level hurt me far more than any Bayformers film since I did not see it coming (at worst I expected it to be just as bad as Man of Steel, not a film so bad it made me nostalgic for Kevin Costner getting tornadoed and Supes causing 9/11 x 100).
OrangeAtlas
Member
I really do wonder if they're actually going to follow up the Knightmare stuff in Justice League/Justice League 2/Flash, or if it's been completely scrapped with Zack Snyder's departure and will exist forever as a confusing tangent in an already padded film.
QuantumZebra
Member
Automatically makes SM1 the best.
RBelong2Us
Member
Damn, Rock is super bitter about how poorly Baywatch did in the states , smh.
"Lil comedy" that cost 70 mil lol
"Lil comedy" that cost 70 mil lol
Lmao dude no
BvS has severe issues with character motivations, pacing, lack of action, and so on, but I ask you to name a single thing about it as bad as Bumblebee peeing on John Turturro, the racists bots, Devastater's testicles, Sam's Family, Shia's screaming in TF3, Ken Jeong, or statutory rape jokes.
You can't.
I mean, your avatar is from BvS right? Just saying. Also, they're equally bad (all the sequels), but the first TF is better than BvS.
TF4 was so bad it took three days to watch it.
The worst thing about BvS is not even the film itself, it's everything it means for the DCEU.
Thanks to Snyder forcing this retarded move of having BvS instead of MoS 2 we have:
- An edgy murderer tired careless Batman who's done with all of the Gotham stuff offscreen
- An undeveloped gloomy edgy murderer Superman who has less dialogue in a movie named after him than Spider-Man as a cameo in Civil War.
- A dark and gritty cinematic universe in which the SECOND movie is a team up.
- A Justice League movie with 7 characters of which only 2 have had their own origin movies. Yes, introducing fucking Flash in a group movie.
I can't fucking stand Zack Snyder. He destroyed Superman just so he could finally make his fucking edgy wannabe Miller Batman fanfic.
The Dark Knight is darker than whatever tryhard Sasuke shit Snyder has ever come up with, yet it's not even remotely as depressing and hopeless.
Thank god for Patty Jenkins really. About time a good director came in.
I'm watching WW a third time for sure.
Thanks to Snyder forcing this retarded move of having BvS instead of MoS 2 we have:
- An edgy murderer tired careless Batman who's done with all of the Gotham stuff offscreen
- An undeveloped gloomy edgy murderer Superman who has less dialogue in a movie named after him than Spider-Man as a cameo in Civil War.
- A dark and gritty cinematic universe in which the SECOND movie is a team up.
- A Justice League movie with 7 characters of which only 2 have had their own origin movies. Yes, introducing fucking Flash in a group movie.
I can't fucking stand Zack Snyder. He destroyed Superman just so he could finally make his fucking edgy wannabe Miller Batman fanfic.
The Dark Knight is darker than whatever tryhard Sasuke shit Snyder has ever come up with, yet it's not even remotely as depressing and hopeless.
Thank god for Patty Jenkins really. About time a good director came in.
I'm watching WW a third time for sure.
Sgt. Kabukiman
Banned
Quicksilver needed a whole trilogy to fully introduce the complexity of his powers.
And every time I watch Seven Samurai I'm just confused. Who are these characters and where are their seven origin films?
The DCEU has a lot of issues but the lack of solo movies before Justice League is meaningless. Nobody is going to be confused, these characters are easy to establish. Plenty of blockbuster films have large casts of characters.
First off, you're comparing Quicksilver and Scarlet Widow? to Flash.
Second, I never said they were properly introduced in Ultron. They're barely characters but ultimately it doesn't even matter because they're not remotely as important for the Avengers as Flash is for the Justice League.
Also Ultron of all things was still a better movie than anything Snyder and I'm 100% sure it'll end up being better than JL unless Whedon makes a miracle, so it has that.