DKehoe
Member
Yeh I didn’t hate it as much as others seemed to. But it was disappointing for sure. I thought Waltz could have been really good but they didn’t do that much with him.
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Lashana Lynch will be ‘introduced to Bond 25 audiences as the new 007
Yeh I didn’t hate it as much as others seemed to. But it was disappointing for sure. I thought Waltz could have been really good but they didn’t do that much with him.
Papa
Banned
I’m the opposite. I don’t care if they make a spin off in the Bond universe with a black female agent with a different number, but 007 and James Bond are synonymous. The symbology is everything.
Rockondevil
Member
I can deal with whoever being 007 but if anyone other than James Bond is "James Bond" I'll be pissed.
However why can't they use other 00 agents. Like seriously have a different 00 agent that's female. Have Idris Elba as another 00, he would be amazing. Why has it always got to be 007.
Also have to agree with many of the others that they could've chosen a better looking person.
However why can't they use other 00 agents. Like seriously have a different 00 agent that's female. Have Idris Elba as another 00, he would be amazing. Why has it always got to be 007.
Also have to agree with many of the others that they could've chosen a better looking person.
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MiyazakiHatesKojima
Banned
Gavin Stevens
Formerly 'o'dium'
It could be a bright green space alien named Mother Fucker Tarquin for all I care.
When are we gonna go back and get a bit silly? That’s what I want. Give me some stupid Q branch shit already god damn it! I wasn’t raised on Roger Moore for nothing you swines!
When are we gonna go back and get a bit silly? That’s what I want. Give me some stupid Q branch shit already god damn it! I wasn’t raised on Roger Moore for nothing you swines!
Scopa
The Tribe Has Spoken
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Gavin Stevens
Formerly 'o'dium'
207 page Era thread coming right up!
xrnzaaas
Member
We already had a Bourne movie without Jason Bourne and it wasn't a big success. A lot of the people won't go to the cinema no matter if the iconic character is not present or is sidelined.
The Bloody-Nine
Member
For fuck sake. If this is true you just killed the series.
JimmyRustler
Gold Member
Hollywood really dropping the ball Right now. Too funny.
Didn't
Nobody_Important
say Craig was backing this decision? Probably wants to go down as last true Bond. Smart man.
Didn't
Nobody_Important
say Craig was backing this decision? Probably wants to go down as last true Bond. Smart man.
Gavin Stevens
Formerly 'o'dium'
Of course. This leaks, everybody starts taking about not just a “black” bond, but a WOMAN?!!? Everybody loses their minds, everybody suffers heart attacks, Internet goes into melt down...
...but there is no such thing as bad news. This gets everybody talking.
Film comes out, “come in 007”, then 10 minutes later she’s dead. Rest of the film is about a retired 007 who ends up going back in the service. “The titles yours of you want it again you cock”.
Camera pans over his ugly monkey like face, hint of a smirk.
Roll credits.
Boom. Job done. Internet outrage increased ticket sales by 74 million percent, Phoenix Walker Bodge gets a new hat to cover her mole. All is well.
...but there is no such thing as bad news. This gets everybody talking.
Film comes out, “come in 007”, then 10 minutes later she’s dead. Rest of the film is about a retired 007 who ends up going back in the service. “The titles yours of you want it again you cock”.
Camera pans over his ugly monkey like face, hint of a smirk.
Roll credits.
Boom. Job done. Internet outrage increased ticket sales by 74 million percent, Phoenix Walker Bodge gets a new hat to cover her mole. All is well.
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The Bloody-Nine
Member
Craig couldn't possibly say anything else. Because the internet hate mob would go after him like they go after everyone they deem 'ist'.Hollywood really dropping the ball Right now. Too funny.
Didn't
captainraincoat
Banned
i actually thought this was a joke........nope
its gonna bomb hard
its gonna bomb hard
octiny
Banned
Didn't
For context, Lashana Lynch is setting to the left of him. With that amount of stuttering, body language & choice of words you can see through what he says vs. what he's actually thinking.
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MilkyJoe
Member
Bond fans hit the roof when a blonde man got the role, they are never paying to see this. I wonder if this will be the biggest bomb of all the gender reversal bombs, of late? 
Edit: just say this;
A poll of, at time of posting, 3700 people and 90% say they have no interest in this movie... Is this the biggest "What were they thinking?" of all time?
Edit: just say this;
A poll of, at time of posting, 3700 people and 90% say they have no interest in this movie... Is this the biggest "What were they thinking?" of all time?
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Silent Duck
Member
My god! I didn’t have my glasses on when looking at the news thumbnail and I thought GAF had it wrong and that it was Chadwick Boseman.
Oops.
I have really bad vision.
Edit: Yep, getting old. Eye doctor says I need new prescription glasses or Lasik. I don’t trust lasik.
Oops.
I have really bad vision.Edit: Yep, getting old. Eye doctor says I need new prescription glasses or Lasik. I don’t trust lasik.
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SirKicksalot
Member
Michelle Yeoh around the 1997 movie too. They wanted a female spin-off for decades. I never imagined they have the balls to make her 007 though.
pennythoughts
Member
Ooh he's a cutie, I'm in.
RokkanStoned
Member
I'm fine with Bond retiring and another person taking the 007 number, hopefully she'll be an interesting character foremost and not be an attempt at mimicking Bond. That's the great part about not having Bond be changed, but just switching out the agent.
Though this line " in walks Lashana who is black, beautiful and a woman " is cringe and gives me doubts as to whether she'll be a character or just cardboard to stick virtue signaling points to. If you switch things out, "in walks Craig who is white, beautiful and a man", it becomes obvious.
Though this line " in walks Lashana who is black, beautiful and a woman " is cringe and gives me doubts as to whether she'll be a character or just cardboard to stick virtue signaling points to. If you switch things out, "in walks Craig who is white, beautiful and a man", it becomes obvious.
VulcanRaven
Member
I don't think she is replacing James Bond. She just got the 007 codename because Bond retired. Bond comes back from retirement because they need him and gets the codename back when the movie ends.
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MilkyJoe
Member
This is the logical outcome. But the woke intention is going to cost them dearly. Dearly enough to shelve the franchise for a while? Who knows.
The Bloody-Nine
Member
Do you mind? I'm trying to be outraged over here.
Nymphae
Banned
Woo-Fu
Banned
Why would the sex of the main character have anything to do with story? There will be an evil mastermind. There will be some sexy henchmen. Bond will sleep with any/all of them and save the day. As far as the story goes you can freely change around the sex of any of those people and the plot is still the same.
RokkanStoned
Member
Ugh, I dislike that. Don't introduce someone new to the agent number and drop it after a movie. A far more interesting thing would be Bond coming back to aid or as a mentor figure for the new 007 agent or as a contact. Or him becoming the new M. Definitely not just dropping him back in it after one movie.
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Pagusas
Elden Member
Why would any part of any story matter, you can freely change anything around and the plot will be basically the same, same three act system, same shit different day. Our whole entertainment system is all about changing small variables in the same stories and representing them to the audience as something new.
Sometimes making a change like the sex of a character, or the location, or the time period can at least bring a new angle to a story to give it some life, or open new opportunities to change other variables.
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Javthusiast
Banned
Yes she is not James Bond, yes you can bet your ass on the fact that they will go forward with her after Craigs Bond retires in this next movie, as the new 007 character in all upcoming bond films after.
By them saying she just takes over the code name not the James character himself, they just trojan horse her in as the new face of the franchise.
By them saying she just takes over the code name not the James character himself, they just trojan horse her in as the new face of the franchise.
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Kadayi
Banned
The main problem with the Craig Bond films is that they turned the latter two into great big navel gazing exercises. I legitimately had to wonder when watching Spectre whether the writers has seen the Austin Powers films when it turned out that the big bad happened to have a personal grudge with Bond over stuff to do with his childhood and the weird retconning at the end which implied that he had been pulling a 'it was me Austin!' all along. Demented writing.
The Bloody-Nine
Member
If so, the franchise will last for precisely one more movie.
Fridge this character? No fucking way. She will be smarter and tougher than Bond, and will make the plot saving choice. Guaranteed!
They had the chance to embrace the "Bond as codename" mythology but then screwed it with Skyfall (and Spectre). Either they have to retcon that as personality conditioning (which would be interesting as well) or accept that James Bond is a specific person, not a cover identity.
#Phonepunk#
Banned
finally we have POC to glorify the man who in the book that sourced his first hit film described his enemies as "Chigros" (a word used 6,000 times in the book) who "have the intelligence of the Chinese, but the vices of a black man so they are a very dangerous breed"
gonna lead to some weird discussions in 10 or so years once some kids want to go back and read the original books on their favorite black hero James Bond.
gonna lead to some weird discussions in 10 or so years once some kids want to go back and read the original books on their favorite black hero James Bond.
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captainraincoat
Banned
I don’t really care that it’s a female but I honestly don’t think directors these days are actually equipped to introduce strong female leads into major movies..most come of reeking of social justice conformity and do the cause no favors
The case in point would be terminator 2 ...you went on the journey with Sarah Conner from a locked up patient to a badass shotgun wielding terminator destroyer.....fast forward to today we know Sarah Conner is a tough female character...why does the first pr come out for the new terminator movie saying sexists beware.....we don’t need fucking signposts directing us to a good female lead...give us the actual development of the character make us believe they are worthy
James Cameron did that in less than 10 mins screentime with Linda Hamilton but now today we get hey guys these are all girls fighting terminators so if you don’t think they are badasses your a sexist pig
The case in point would be terminator 2 ...you went on the journey with Sarah Conner from a locked up patient to a badass shotgun wielding terminator destroyer.....fast forward to today we know Sarah Conner is a tough female character...why does the first pr come out for the new terminator movie saying sexists beware.....we don’t need fucking signposts directing us to a good female lead...give us the actual development of the character make us believe they are worthy
James Cameron did that in less than 10 mins screentime with Linda Hamilton but now today we get hey guys these are all girls fighting terminators so if you don’t think they are badasses your a sexist pig
VulcanRaven
Member
That is just my speculation and I think it is likely. Bond and the new 007 work together to beat the bad guys. James Bond is still the main character of the movie. I don't think she will be 007 in the movie after this.
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JareBear: Remastered
Banned
They couldn’t have gone with Idris Elba? Or made a new franchise? Or wrote stories involving two agents?
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Tickle My Tendies
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GymWolf
Member
People getting mads about this news...
Schrödinger's cat
Banned
I'm gonna wait and see.
But I will say this: Although it may not be Bond, Chev Chelios is sacred. Don't even think about it.
But I will say this: Although it may not be Bond, Chev Chelios is sacred. Don't even think about it.
Silent Duck
Member
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Dr.Guru of Peru
played the long game
Man, the outrage culture here is tiring.
She's not James Bond. She's the employee that replaced him after he quit his job. Fairly certain the British government is allowed to hire black women now.
Daniel Craig is still Bond. Get a grip, folks.
She's not James Bond. She's the employee that replaced him after he quit his job. Fairly certain the British government is allowed to hire black women now.
Daniel Craig is still Bond. Get a grip, folks.
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