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[Journey]

Claim: Xbox Series X is more powerful than PS5, more teraflops and memory bandwidth.

Fans: I don’t care, it’s all about Sony exclusives and that SSD.

Multiplatform game running better on Xbox Series X.

Fans: Outraged, can’t be true, must be a biased source, devs suck or lazy.
*Leaps off bridge

 

[Pallas]

Interesting, it’s not a huge shock that one or even both consoles may have issues on the same or even different games altogether. Capcom will get it up and running, one platform might have a advantage over the another but I think overall both games will look great at release and play great, and if not, day 1 patch Incoming.

it looked fine on the pro..

When RDR2 first released it had some weird graphics glitch or something similar that really made it look a lot less impressive than its Xbox one X counterpart which ran the game in native 4K iirc. I’m not sure if Rockstar even releases a patch to fix it but since they heavily advertised the game with exclusive dlc, I imagine it was fixed.

It was a bit of a funny thing considering it seemed like Rockstar put more work into the Xbox one X version at the time.

 

[Honey Bunny]

PS5 owners need to brace themselves for a gen like Xbox One owners had when it comes to multiplats. If the spec info is accurate.

 

[scalman]

yh and nothing to do with console , just devs . or maybe its si advance thats next gens cant even handle it .... but in the end devs ... its not hardwarer fault. dont be mistaken by this , when someone was payed a lot or ws just azy its not hardware fault. in kost cases its not even that just click bait.

 

[Bryank75]

Actually its 20-30% difference which more like going from a 5700xt to a 2080 super.

It's 15%... you can imagine whatever figures you like though.... whatever you do instead of playing good games.

 

[Redlancet]

It also looks fine on PS4 and XBO, but that’s not the point

the point its xbox fanboys acting like these two were different versions,xbox versions look crispier,thats all, fi you have both go for the x but pro users will havea excellent experience

 

[Mr Moose]

It's 15%... you can imagine whatever figures you like though.... whatever you do instead of playing good games.

PS5 ~15% less, Series X ~18% more. (TF).

 

[Rossco EZ]

Interesting, it’s not a huge shock that one or even both consoles may have issues on the same or even different games altogether. Capcom will get it up and running, one platform might have a advantage over the another but I think overall both games will look great at release and play great, and if not, day 1 patch Incoming.




When RDR2 first released it had some weird graphics glitch or something similar that really made it look a lot less impressive than its Xbox one X counterpart which ran the game in native 4K iirc. I’m not sure if Rockstar even releases a patch to fix it but since they heavily advertised the game with exclusive dlc, I imagine it was fixed.

It was a bit of a funny thing considering it seemed like Rockstar put more work into the Xbox one X version at the time.

oh ok, wasn’t aware of any graphics bug when i played it. actually got a one x recently and have been playing through it again and won’t deny that the image does look slightly sharper. ps4 pro didn’t look crap to me though as somebody said.

 

[DarkLite]

Poster on era, not too sure if its ps5 or ps4 pro,

And gets quite rightly shamed on era for nonsense.

Interesting seeing the worms come out of the wood work lol

He is referring to Resident Evil Village. This game is a next-gen exclusive. It's not coming to PS4, PS4 Pro or Xbox One, refer to:

Resident Evil Village is Next-Gen Only Due to “Bigger Focus on Exploration” – Rumor

gamingbolt.com

And the insider knew months before the reveal that resident evil village is coming. Is a good source.

It's 15%... you can imagine whatever figures you like though.... whatever you do instead of playing good games.

there is still a huge difference between having a lot of CUs with locker clocks vs having a few CUs with extreme overclock in terms of performance. DF did a couple of tests and having a high clock doesn't help very much, it simply doesn't scale so well. We will see in a couple of years when the next-gen only multiplatform games arrive.

 

[Frito_Pendejo]

When rumours fly that RE8 is struggling on PS5 though its m
"Hahaha what a weak system, dat secret sauce bro! Playstation advantage my ass"

when Halo Infinite is shown and looks underwhelming and have less than 10 weeks left
"Hey bros, they got lots of time to fix this, they've got those 12 flops to work with. #Ibelievein343"

Except this never happened. Most of the Xbox fans I saw on here, or the ones that are left I should say, seemed extremely disappointed by the reveal and the rest were the Sony guys with their “muh Craig avatar” shit.

I mean, I’m partial to Xbox and I said the game looked awful. I also complained about the shit Spencer has shown and am not totally convinced I’m getting an series X at launch. If you want to be so totally in the tank for one brand that you’re willing to fight anything negative that’s on you.

 

[Mr Moose]

He is referring to Resident Evil Village. This game is a next-gen exclusive. It's not coming to PS4, PS4 Pro or Xbox One, refer to:

Resident Evil Village is Next-Gen Only Due to “Bigger Focus on Exploration” – Rumor

gamingbolt.com

And the insider knew months before the reveal that resident evil village is coming. Is a good source.

It's a cross-gen game that had its current gen cancelled.

 

[Pallas]

Dusk Golem deserves to eat shit for the FUD he is spreading.
Mat (a much more reliable insider) already said that the difference would be minimal.

You can tell him to eat shit afterwards, if it’s proven to be nonsense. I don’t know why you or others get offended over this stuff. I mean isn’t Dusk pretty reliable when it comes to Capcom stuff? Whatever the case, I’m sure it’ll look fine at around launch.

 

[Shakka43]

-Whore for attention
--Receive attention
---Bitch about given attention

 

[Stooky]

Haha so called ‘insider’. This is a trash thread. Every game has frame rate problems during development. The last step is optimization. Unless this game is coming out next m month it will be fine.

 

[Journey]

the point its xbox fanboys acting like these two were different versions,xbox versions look crispier,thats all, fi you have both go for the x but pro users will havea excellent experience

So a benchmark shows a 2080Ti outperforming a 2070, and the point of the benchmark is that if you own a 2070 you should be happy because they both look sharp... alrighty then lol, the real point is that it shows how one hardware is clearly more capable than the other which will reflect on multiplatform games like PS4 over XB1 regardless of XB1 games looked fine for Xbox fans

 

[SoraNoKuni]

Ok this is literally just propaganda at this point, but I guess the x t shirt boys need something to grab on while they fall.

The engine never ever had any problem running flawlessly even in PS4 with some of the greatest visuals we've seen this gen, this is horse shit.

 

[Night.Ninja]

He shouldn't have posted it, you already know you can't say anything negative about the PS5 with out being swarmed on or ridiculed.

Time will tell I guess

 

[REE Machine]

Except this never happened. Most of the Xbox fans I saw on here, or the ones that are left I should say, seemed extremely disappointed by the reveal and the rest were the Sony guys with their “muh Craig avatar” shit.

I mean, I’m partial to Xbox and I said the game looked awful. I also complained about the shit Spencer has shown and am not totally convinced I’m getting an series X at launch. If you want to be so totally in the tank for one brand that you’re willing to fight anything negative that’s on you.

There was so much damage control from known youtubers to reddit etc. People were defending that trash.

 

[Night.Ninja]

Ok this is literally just propaganda at this point, but I guess the x t shirt boys need something to grab on while they fall.

The engine never ever had any problem running flawlessly even in PS4 with some of the greatest visuals we've seen this gen, this is horse shit.

So are you expecting the same PS4 visuals on PS5? I assume the engine would have been upgraded to take advantage on the new consoles and pc hardware no

 

[Frito_Pendejo]

There was so much damage control from known youtubers to reddit etc. People were defending that trash.

I get most of my gaming news or info from here. I’m not a big fan of the Timdogs of the world. I’m totally fine calling shit, shit.

 

[REE Machine]

I get most of my gaming news or info from here. I’m not a big fan of the Timdogs of the world. I’m totally fine calling shit, shit.

Same as I

 

[Frito_Pendejo]

Ok this is literally just propaganda at this point, but I guess the x t shirt boys need something to grab on while they fall.

The engine never ever had any problem running flawlessly even in PS4 with some of the greatest visuals we've seen this gen, this is horse shit.

Why is it horse shit? A guy who’s been basically dead on according to most who’ve seen him post before suddenly is posting horse shit because?

 

[SoraNoKuni]

So are you expecting the same PS4 visuals on PS5? I assume the engine would have been upgraded to take advantage on the new consoles and pc hardware no

Of course it will have better visuals, capcoms vision of that engine is to look plenty good while running smooth as they already showed us with all of their latest releases, they won't fuck up the performance. And if they do it's their problem and will probably be the same for all platforms because of shitty re engine updates and not due to the ps5. Don't be fanboys, it's really pathetic at this point.

 

[geordiemp]

He is referring to Resident Evil Village. This game is a next-gen exclusive. It's not coming to PS4, PS4 Pro or Xbox One, refer to:

Resident Evil Village is Next-Gen Only Due to “Bigger Focus on Exploration” – Rumor

gamingbolt.com

And the insider knew months before the reveal that resident evil village is coming. Is a good source.



there is still a huge difference between having a lot of CUs with locker clocks vs having a few CUs with extreme overclock in terms of performance. DF did a couple of tests and having a high clock doesn't help very much, it simply doesn't scale so well. We will see in a couple of years when the next-gen only multiplatform games arrive.

Rubbish, he said all games, then only RE8, then might be ps4 pro, then ps5, and now he says might be 1800p60.

He does not know.

So now we saying XSX plays games that are not developed yet better.

Fuck me the stupidity of some.

 

[xStoyax]

 

[Antwix]

 

[Physiognomonics]

Thank you both for that. We will see which one is correct.

It's always better to wait for real facts but remember that Dusk Golem info is hearsay (someone told him...) while Matt info is first hand information (he has seen it with his own eyes).

 

[SoraNoKuni]

Dusk golem was basically caught lying just yesterday about SFVI, his story was that of a Hollywood movie script, yet people take this braindead news as a given. Come on people.

 

[hwraytracer]

So much pain in this thread, some of you need hugs ...

The game will still be great to play on your console of choice

 

[xStoyax]

Dusk golem was basically caught lying just yesterday about SFVI, his story was that of a Hollywood movie script, yet people take this braindead news as a given. Come on people.

What did he say about that?

 

[Clintizzle]

Sony fans please go ahead and add a network-wide block on anything coming from Digital Foundry for the next year or so.

I don't think you guys can handle this.

 

[SoraNoKuni]

What did he say about that?

Dusk Golem: Street Fighter VI delayed out of 2021

www.neogaf.com

 

[Thirty7ven]

He shouldn't have posted it, you already know you can't say anything negative about the PS5 with out being swarmed on or ridiculed.

Time will tell I guess

Posts like these are embarrassing. Why would you be in favor of spreading falsehoods?

Know that it all started with him saying it was about several games. The more he got pushed the harder the story changed.

 

[bitbydeath]

Sony fans please go ahead and add a network-wide block on anything coming from Digital Foundry for the next year or so.

I don't think you guys can handle this.

 

[Calverz]

This from the same Dusk Golem that claimed RE3 Remake "won't be what you expect"?

Yeah...

But also told us about re8 months ago in a village and castle waaaaay before the trailer and ono leaving street fighter like over a week ago. So yea.....pretty legit.

 

[Dr Bass]

2/3 versions of the game using DirectX 12 while the other version that's reportedly struggling isn't.

What’s your point? DirectX12 isn’t some panacea.

Sony has low level graphics APIs.

DX12 is not an advantage in the slightest.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

I didnt read all these pages but no.

 

[loktaiextatus]

PS5 owners need to brace themselves for a gen like Xbox One owners had when it comes to multiplats. If the spec info is accurate.

Well.. that was a 30-40 percent gap. This is a 15 percent gap.... So I would think if so, it would be to a lesser extent.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Yup. It's a-ok for Grounded (a WIP early access game) to be evaluated on performance and features. Hiccup performance and bare bones. People should know what it's like even if it's not the final game.

Nope. It's not ok for RE to be publicized about performance. It's not ok to tell gamers what development is like.

 

[Mr Moose]

Sony fans please go ahead and add a network-wide block on anything coming from Digital Foundry for the next year or so.

I don't think you guys can handle this.

Series X is the more powerful machine, I don't think anyone is saying otherwise. Struggling with 1080p/60fps on a cross-gen game is questionable.

Yup. It's a-ok for Grounded (a WIP early access game) to be evaluated on performance and features. Hiccup performance and bare bones. People should know what it's like even if it's not the final game.

Nope. It's not ok for RE to be publicized about performance. It's not ok to tell gamers what development is like.

You can buy Grounded.
We haven't seen Resident Evil VIII running at 1080p. We've seen it running at 4K though.

 

[Bryank75]

Sony fans please go ahead and add a network-wide block on anything coming from Digital Foundry for the next year or so.

I don't think you guys can handle this.

I mean...sure if Xbox actually has anything worth playing... Halo Infinite isn't exactly inspiring!

 

[Mister Wolf]

What’s your point? DirectX12 isn’t some panacea.

Sony has low level graphics APIs.

DX12 is not an advantage in the slightest.

Its an advantage if the developers are struggling with the alternative.

 

[TLZ]

Game doesn't even look nextgen, it looks like a current gen game. Why would it struggle to run on nextgen machines?

 

[SoraNoKuni]

What’s your point? DirectX12 isn’t some panacea.

Sony has low level graphics APIs.

DX12 is not an advantage in the slightest.

Actually dx12 is a higher level api than what Sony uses, but it sounds awesome so it must be better /s

 

[Calverz]

Ok this is literally just propaganda at this point, but I guess the x t shirt boys need something to grab on while they fall.

The engine never ever had any problem running flawlessly even in PS4 with some of the greatest visuals we've seen this gen, this is horse shit.

Hmmmmm ok. We already had lord gaben confirm the xsx was “better” and now we have a pretty reliable source, saying he has heard from multiple people about a big power gap.
Please brace yourself for the digital foundry comparisons. Maybe sit down for them. Clutching your “Craig” photograph.....

 

[IntentionalPun]

Hmmmmm ok. We already had lord gaben confirm the xsx was “better” and now we have a pretty reliable source, saying he has heard from multiple people about a big power gap.
Please brace yourself for the digital foundry comparisons. Maybe sit down for them. Clutching your “Craig” photograph.....

He said he'd talked to a "pool of developers"; and then he admitted it was all about one game lol

 

[Hunnybun]

Another thread of low effort drive by trolling by fanboys of both sides. Grow up weirdos.

Tell me about it. So many fucking dickheads on both sides. A lot of the time it feels like we get the rejects from Resetera, but not the sane ones who accidentally utter some opinion 1 degree to the right of Pol Pot, but the ones they rightly ban for constant console warring. It's pathetic.

All we really know so far about the two consoles is that the Xbox is more powerful, but only about half as more powerful than its competitor as the PS4 was. There's also the unknown quantity of the PS5's much faster SSD to consider.

On paper we should expect the gap to manifest in 2160p vs 1800p AT THE VERY MOST, which is actually pretty much imperceptible unless you choose to sit about a foot away from your tv.

So all good, really.

If it's true that RE8 on PS5 is really struggling to compete with Xbox then that sucks for PS5, but there's nothing wrong with stating that that really doesn't line up with everything we know about the 2 machines. No way we should be seeing >300% better performance on Xbox, that's just mad.

You don't need to be a PlayStation fanboy to recognise that much. And you don't need to be an Xbox fanboy to concede that right now we should expect a small advantage for Xbox in most multiplatform games.

 

[Mr Moose]

What’s your point? DirectX12 isn’t some panacea.

Sony has low level graphics APIs.

DX12 is not an advantage in the slightest.

He might be talking about porting. A game ported directly from PC might run better on the Series X than PS5 because of the OS (without optimization). I have no idea though, I'm not a tech nerd

 

[Dr Bass]

Its an advantage if the developers are struggling with the alternative.

Youre assuming that

1.) This is true and not exaggerated
2.) If it’s true the graphics APIs are to blame For “performance issues”.

If that WERE true it’s just software and would soon be remedied anyway.

I would bet my career there is no issue with Sony’s graphics libraries for PS5. They’ve been doing this for decades and know what they are doing. Longer than MS has had DirectX available for PC.

 

[reinking]

Yup. It's a-ok for Grounded (a WIP early access game) to be evaluated on performance and features. Hiccup performance and bare bones. People should know what it's like even if it's not the final game.

Nope. It's not ok for RE to be publicized about performance. It's not ok to tell gamers what development is like.

The difference being one is publicly available to be played and evaluated while the other is second hand information. Those two things are not the same.