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[Julius Ibidus]

Where did MS touch you?

 

[GhostOfTsu]

A useless purchase for MS. All these games and franchises were already coming to Xbox and PC. This is just jerk off material for xbox fans.

Starfield was developed from the ground up as a multiplatform title with zero input from MS and suddenly they call is a new MS IP lol

You can't erase history.

 

[yurinka]

That is 100% not what Phil Spencer said after the deal closed and you know it. He said they would continue to support LEGACY titles such as FO76 and TESO or provide patches to games that receive patches but future titles are exclusive to GamePass platforms.

I posted above the transcriptions of both Phil Spencer and the CFO. The CFO said "first or best' which doesn't mean full console exclusive at all. Phil said : "Obviously I can't sit here and say every Bethesda game is [an Xbox] exclusive, because we know that's not true".

And Phil wasn't talking only about legacy games, notice that in addition to legacy he also mentions 'contractual things', and that he first talks about investing on existing communities on other consoles (which can mean new DLCs or new games for existing IPs like Fallout, Doom or Elder Scrolls, but let's think he only means DLC) and after that mentions "and even in the future may be" as if talking about future games or IPs "either contractual things or legacy on different platforms":

"There's communities of players - we love those communities and will continue to invest in them - and even in the future there might be...either contractual things or legacy on different platforms that we'll go do."

 

[ManaByte]

I posted above the transcriptions of both Phil Spencer and the CFO. The CFO said "first or best' which doesn't mean full console exclusive at all. Phil said : "Obviously I can't sit here and say every Bethesda game is [an Xbox] exclusive, because we know that's not true".

And Phil wasn't talking only about legacy games, notice that in addition to legacy he also mentions 'contractual things', and that he first talks about investing on existing communities on other consoles (which can mean new DLCs or new games for existing IPs like Fallout, Doom or Elder Scrolls, but let's think he only means DLC) and after that mentions "and even in the future may be" as if talking about future games or IPs "either contractual things or legacy on different platforms":

"There's communities of players - we love those communities and will continue to invest in them - and even in the future there might be...either contractual things or legacy on different platforms that we'll go do."

If you think games like Starfield and TESVI are coming out on the PS5, you're going to have a very rough few years.

 

[[Sigma]]

And to that I say:

So much hype from this game we've seen nothing of outside of random screenshots. Knowing Bethesda, this game is more likely to barely be playable day 1, gameplay be garbage and include a day 1 patch bigger than the actual game.

 

[elliot5]

A useless purchase for MS. All these games and franchises were already coming to Xbox and PC. This is just jerk off material for xbox fans.

Starfield was developed from the ground up as a multiplatform title with zero input from MS and suddenly they call is a new MS IP lol

You can't erase history.

ZeniMax was looking to sell. How is it guaranteed they would come to Xbox and PC if someone else were to buy them up and prevent it?

Who is making the argument that Starfield wasn't likely being made for PS? Who is erasing history? It's just clear that the game is now considered a first party title regardless if Microsoft had input. Same thing with Deathloop and Ghostwire Tokyo.

 

[Stuart360]

A useless purchase for MS. All these games and franchises were already coming to Xbox and PC. This is just jerk off material for xbox fans.

Starfield was developed from the ground up as a multiplatform title with zero input from MS and suddenly they call is a new MS IP lol

You can't erase history.

Er except now Microsoft will be getting the money from the game sales, and they wouldnt of before buying Zenimax.

 

[yurinka]

If you think games like Starfield and TESVI are coming out on the PS5, you're going to have a very rough few years.

I think they will very likely be timed console exclusives. I think they will be announced and released for Xbox and PC, and around a year after release will be announced and released for PS5.

I don't give a fuck where they release them, I never bought a Bethesda game. And from other Zenimax teams I think I only bought Doom 2016. But can't remember now if I bought it or if I played it because they included it on PS Now, PS Plus, free weekend or similar.

 

[Deleted member 471617]

A lot of PlayStation fanboys seem to be very salty. Oh well.

 

[VFXVeteran]

And to that I say:

So much hype from this game we've seen nothing of outside of random screenshots. Knowing Bethesda, this game is more likely to barely be playable day 1, gameplay be garbage and include a day 1 patch bigger than the actual game.

Why are you shitting up the thread? These guys are excited for this game. Can you give them the same respect they give you when you guys praise PS exclusive games? I don't see them in there like at all.

 

[ManaByte]

I think they will very likely be timed console exclusives. I think they will be announced and released for Xbox and PC, and around a year after release will be announced and released for PS5.

Explain why. In detail. Why when Microsoft pays $7 billion for a company and explicitly states the games are exclusive to GamePass platforms that they'll release them on their direct competitor.

That's like Disney spending $70 billion for Fox and then making new Fox movies for Netflix. It makes zero sense in reality, but people here keep claiming it's going to happen for reasons.

 

[VFXVeteran]

Explain why. In detail. Why when Microsoft pays $7 billion for a company and explicitly states the games are exclusive to GamePass platforms that they'll release them on their direct competitor.

That's like Disney spending $70 billion for Fox and then making new Fox movies for Netflix. It makes zero sense in reality, but people here keep claiming it's going to happen for reasons.

I'm not sure why they would want the game anyway since they have nothing positive to say about it.

 

[oldergamer]

A useless purchase for MS. All these games and franchises were already coming to Xbox and PC. This is just jerk off material for xbox fans.

Starfield was developed from the ground up as a multiplatform title with zero input from MS and suddenly they call is a new MS IP lol

You can't erase history.

Get over it dude. It's a plastic box with software, this instance is certainly not worth trolling over.

 

[Starfield]

good read VFXVeteran

It could be that certain things have changed between now and then. I mean, it's been almost 3 years so far. Nate Purkeypile, the Lead Lighting Artist for Starfield (who worked at BGS for almost 15 years) recently left the studio aswell. Maybe his work on lighting is finished and he wants to do other things in the industry now.

 

[SteelCurtain 59]

Er except now Microsoft will be getting the money from the game sales, and they wouldnt of before buying Zenimax.

hate to be that guy, but it would either be "wouldn't have" or "wouldn't've"



And to add on to your point, not only do they get the money now from Bethesda, but studios can make the games they want instead of needing to make every game a blockbuster to try and get massive sales, and less commercially successful studios like Arkane or Tango get way more security in not potentially being closed down. I'd argue Xbox is getting both "more games" and "better games" because of buying Bethesda, but that argument tends to fall on deaf ears around these parts

 

[Bumblebeetuna]

At one time it was vita exclusive and that ceased when it went to other ps systems but it’s still ps exclusive. So at one time it was exclusive vita then it wasn’t. This game is console exclusive and also available on pc. It’s releasing for both on the same day isnt it?

Exactly. It can’t be xbox and pc exclusive. It can be Microsoft exclusive or xbox service exclusive. NOT exclusive to xbox and pc. It needs to be exclusive to whatever the common is. So tweet your boy and call him out. He used that emphatic spelling out of period but that tweet isn’t accurate. PC running Microsoft windows and owning xbox doesn’t change that. It’s wrong. You’re making this about something it isn’t. It’s about this guy falling all over himself to tweet something and it’s wrong. Don’t get all mad. You can play it day one on an xbox or a pc. No big deal.

Of course it can be exclusive to those because the underlining context is Microsoft. And let’s be honest, if the dude had claimed Microsoft exclusive you’d still be whining claiming it’s wrong because you can play it on a Samsung tablet using xCloud.

Also don’t be silly. The only person mad here is you, stumbling like crazy trying to muck up something extremely simple. It’s a tweet by a guy. You can literally just ignore it. Hope that helped.

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

hate to be that guy, but it would either be "wouldn't have" or "wouldn't've"



And to add on to your point, not only do they get the money now from Bethesda, but studios can make the games they want instead of needing to make every game a blockbuster to try and get massive sales, and less commercially successful studios like Arkane or Tango get way more security in not potentially being closed down. I'd argue Xbox is getting both "more games" and "better games" because of buying Bethesda, but that argument tends to fall on deaf ears around these parts

This argument is only possibly true in the short-term. The future is unknown. Let's say Arkane or Tango have bomb after bomb. Their engagement on GamePass or whatever is terrible. The studio management falls apart due to the acquisition. Microsoft as a company isn't growing to the extent shareholders desire in the future. This perfect storm for these studios to ultimately be restructured or shed.

Microsoft doesn't have the greatest history with acquisitions, just look at Rare. So we will just have to wait and see whether or not the Microsoft acquisition is for the better or not. I argue that an acquisition of this size is generally not a good thing for the industry as a whole. It really depends on how struggling Arkane/Tango were and if there was risk of them going away without MS intervening.

 

[Umbasaborne]

Nah, he’s wrong: NeoGAF told me that Microsoft couldn’t afford exclusives, because the ZeniMax purchase was so expensive that if they didn’t put their games on PlayStation that Microsoft would go bankrupt.

This must be the case!!! Gaf is never wrong, especially when they are talking about how much better sony is than microsoft!!

 

[FrankWza]

Of course it can be exclusive to those because the underlining context is Microsoft. And let’s be honest, if the dude had claimed Microsoft exclusive you’d still be whining claiming it’s wrong because you can play it on a Samsung tablet using xCloud.

Also don’t be silly. The only person mad here is you, stumbling like crazy trying to muck up something extremely simple. It’s a tweet by a guy. You can literally just ignore it. Hope that helped.

There’s a thread on this “tweet by a guy” and it is 100% not accurate. As you said, he even left out xcloud. It’s not a Microsoft exclusive either. There are games like flight simulator that you Cannot play on xbox which is owned and funded by microsoft. When and if they name their service that is all encompassing they can say it’s exclusive to whatever that may be. But today, you’re wrong. It can’t be exclusive to “those” because those are NOT the same thing. Unless you want to turn on youre series x or s and show how you’re playing microsoft flight simulator today? Since they’re the same thing

 

[OsirisBlack]

I think the studio acquisition is a good one for Microsoft. Forgot the evil within was Bethesda so there are a few good games to come out of this for team green. Revamped doom is actually fun and TES is amazing. The remaining games .. fallout and others were never my cup of tea. Still good gets for the collection. Not sure why people are mad.. SFV was pc and ps4 only just like FF7 remake and intergrade and FFXVI look to continue the trend. Also stop pretending those games are coming to PS ecosystem. No one spends 7 billion dollars to help their opponents.

 

[cripterion]

As long as it's on pc... these games thrive on pc thanks to the modding community, no way in hell you'll get me to play this on console.

 

[Hezekiah]

We need to see the game first.

New IP and no one seems to know a damn thing about it. I'm guessing it comes out Summer 2022 at the earliest.

 

[SteelCurtain 59]

This argument is only possibly true in the short-term. The future is unknown. Let's say Arkane or Tango have bomb after bomb. Their engagement on GamePass or whatever is terrible. The studio management falls apart due to the acquisition. Microsoft as a company isn't growing to the extent shareholders desire in the future. This perfect storm for these studios to ultimately be restructured or shed.

Microsoft doesn't have the greatest history with acquisitions, just look at Rare. So we will just have to wait and see whether or not the Microsoft acquisition is for the better or not. I argue that an acquisition of this size is generally not a good thing for the industry as a whole. It really depends on how struggling Arkane/Tango were and if there was risk of them going away without MS intervening.

If they have "bomb after bomb", they probably would've been canned much sooner being just part of Bethesda, then a longer leash as part of Game Pass, so more games

Also Microsoft is not a singular person, so even if the Rare acquisition didn't work out (which is incredibly subjective and personally I disagree with), to act like Microsoft now is the same as Microsoft then is just as dumb as acting like Sony now is the same now as they were when they launched the PS3. Different people running it. It's entirely disingenuous to act like something that happened 20 years ago has any bearing at all on this acquisition. In fact the fact that it had been that long prior to 2018 that Xbox had made any serious acquisitions should tell you all you need to know about how different Xbox is now then it was in the early Xbox days.


Also, Sea of Thieves is Rare's most successful game (even if personally I'm not the biggest fan), and most of the super instrumental people in early Rare left BEFORE Microsoft bought them, so I'm not sure what "just look at Rare" is supposed to mean in this context? That you are just trying to find arbitrary ways to downplay the excitement of other people?

 

[FunkMiller]

My 3070 is ready.

 

[Alphagear]

What's with all the hype around this game and Bethesda in general?

Played all their games in the past 2 decades.

Their games are a technical mess with bugs and crashes.

Or is it a case of now Microsoft own them they are top tier?

 

[Dolomite]

It's a good thing everyone on Had has those monster Rigs I keep hearing about

 

[SteelCurtain 59]

What's with all the hype around this game and Bethesda in general?

Played all their games in the past 2 decades.

Their games are a technical mess with bugs and crashes.

Or is it a case of now Microsoft own them they are top tier?

They've made many beloved games over the course of their history, and have always been viewed as one of the top tier studios by the average gamer, and have tons of super high selling games like Skyrim for instance, they own two of the most popular IP in gaming (Elder Scrolls and Fallout). They were beloved well before Xbox bought them, if anything them being bought has made a bunch of people pretend they didn't like them that much now that they can't play them on Playstation (not everybody obviously)

 

[VulcanRaven]

Will the Bethesda Indiana Jones game be exclusive too? I hope not. They really should have said that when it was announced.

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

If they have "bomb after bomb", they probably would've been canned much sooner being just part of Bethesda, then a longer leash as part of Game Pass, so more games

Also Microsoft is not a singular person, so even if the Rare acquisition didn't work out (which is incredibly subjective and personally I disagree with), to act like Microsoft now is the same as Microsoft then is just as dumb as acting like Sony now is the same now as they were when they launched the PS3. Different people running it. It's entirely disingenuous to act like something that happened 20 years ago has any bearing at all on this acquisition. In fact the fact that it had been that long prior to 2018 that Xbox had made any serious acquisitions should tell you all you need to know about how different Xbox is now then it was in the early Xbox days.


Also, Sea of Thieves is Rare's most successful game (even if personally I'm not the biggest fan), and most of the super instrumental people in early Rare left BEFORE Microsoft bought them, so I'm not sure what "just look at Rare" is supposed to mean in this context? That you are just trying to find arbitrary ways to downplay the excitement of other people?

Rare was one of the top studios of that era. To say that it's been a great acquisition for Microsoft is bogus. Rare was basically out-performing Nintendo in many areas during the N64 gen. You cannot spin their acquisition as a positive. If Rare were managed well, there's no reason they wouldn't be a much larger studio today with an enormous portfolio of strong IP. They should be one of the top game developers in the world with an output similar (or greater than) Insomniac Games. Microsoft managed that studio acquisition as poorly as possible.

You rightly point out that Microsoft is not a singular person. Sentiment can change. Leadership can change. Just because Phil has been granted a leash today does not mean that leash will be there tomorrow.

To be quite frank, I am not seeing much difference of the Microsoft today vs. the Microsoft that purchased Rare other than perhaps larger pockets. Many of their home grown studios are a disaster. 343 is absolutely classic mis-management. And that is with their prized IP with Halo. They clearly do not understand how to manage studios very well.

The "sea of thieves is Rare's most successful game" seems to be a meme based on wishful thinking of those that love Xbox. There's absolutely no evidence that this is anywhere close to reality.

 

[FrankWza]

What's with all the hype around this game and Bethesda in general?

Played all their games in the past 2 decades.

Their games are a technical mess with bugs and crashes.

Or is it a case of now Microsoft own them they are top tier?

The way it was explained was that they would still operate however they always did.

It's a good thing everyone on Had has those monster Rigs I keep hearing about

Maybe everyone has a tablet or Apple TV? Who knows where the service will end up?

Got to admit, I liked both evil within, not enough to say buy a console for or in a league like say god war, but I enjoyed them and reminded me of RE4.

The rest of Betheseda catalogue you would have to remind me what they were, so who gives a crap.

Wake me up when evil within 3 is announced.

yeah the mikami part is less impactful because ghostwire still gets a full release and we don’t know how many games he has left anyway. Last thing I read on him he sounded kind of done with the industry. Still an awesome creative dude though.

 

[Dolomite]

I have absolutely no idea what you’re saying. What I’m saying is, I believe something can’t be exclusive to 2 things. So, console exclusive and also available on pc. You can’t say microsoft exclusive because people would expect to be able to play it on a tablet or something

Is horizon Zero a Sony exclusive or not?
I can play the game on a pc.

Just stop, the mental gymnastics aren't helping your cause. Starfield is MS exclusive. HZD is a Sony exclusive

 

[Alphagear]

They've made many beloved games over the course of their history, and have always been viewed as one of the top tier studios by the average gamer, and have tons of super high selling games like Skyrim for instance, they own two of the most popular IP in gaming (Elder Scrolls and Fallout). They were beloved well before Xbox bought them, if anything them being bought has made a bunch of people pretend they didn't like them that much now that they can't play them on Playstation (not everybody obviously)

Well I have played most their games on Microsoft consoles especially during 360 days since they ran better.

Skyrim and Fallout 3 were decent games and even they were a technical mess with bugs and crashes.

They were released over a decade ago.

I'm not understanding the hype around Starfield considering we haven't even seen the game in the flesh or have I missed something?

 

[Croatoan]

"This guy is never right," says the incresingly nervous Sony fan.

 

[FrankWza]

Os horizon Zero a don't exclusive or not?
I can play the game on a pc.

Just stop the mental gymnastics aren't helping your cause. Starfield is MS exclusive. HZD is a Sony exclusive

Great. Tell the guy who wrote the tweet he made an incorrect statement while you play flight simulator on your series console today

 

[RoboFu]

Cool .... what is it?

 

[OneTruth]

No GamePass on Playstation - no Bethesda games on PS5. Why Playstation fanboys dont understand this??.

 

[Dolomite]

Great. Tell the guy who wrote the tweet he made an incorrect statement while you play flight simulator on your series console today

gonna be honest chief, I don't care about Jeff grubb any more than I care about you. Why are you trying to convince me that Jeff is wrong, whilst trying to reinvent the meaning of a console exclusive? PS3 had games release simultaneously on PC, while leaving out xbox and you wouldn't question whether or not they were exclusives? Morrowind released on the original Xbox and left the PS2 out, who would question it's exclusivity status?

Mass effect, used to be a console exclusive. Yrs later it rereleased for PS, imagine that? If anything MS has made thier exclusive content more accessible ( Tablet, phone PC, Smart TV streams) while still remaining exclusive to platforms that run MS's proprietary Service: Gamepass. The second Starfield is announced for another console, we can all agree that it's no longer a console exclusive.

 

[Fredrik]

That is 100% not what Phil Spencer said after the deal closed and you know it. He said they would continue to support LEGACY titles such as FO76 and TESO or provide patches to games that receive patches but future titles are exclusive to GamePass platforms.

That’s not how he phrased it, he never mentioned any titles, that’s why this talk never ended. It’s still up in the air what he actually meant with legacy titles, if he meant the Fallout, TES, DOOM IPs or just TESO and already released games.

 

[yurinka]

Explain why. In detail. Why when Microsoft pays $7 billion for a company and explicitly states the games are exclusive to GamePass platforms that they'll release them on their direct competitor.

That's like Disney spending $70 billion for Fox and then making new Fox movies for Netflix. It makes zero sense in reality, but people here keep claiming it's going to happen for reasons.

Most big 3rd party publishers get a big portion -in many cases half or even more- of their AAA revenue selling games/DLC/IAP on PlayStation, something explained with the install base market share. So I assume it's the same in the case of Zenimax. So I highly doubt they will reject all this huge amount of revenue just to make happy some fanboys, because as a company they will want to recoup the investment they did on Zenimax as fast as possible in some years and to get a positive ROI.

On top of that MS is already losing a ton of money almost giving away 1st and 3rd party games day one on Game Pass, and as Game Pass grows their revenue from 1st party sales on Xbox and PC will keep decreasing because even if a small portion of players will continue buying some of their favorite games on physical even if they already have them on Game Pass, the majority of Game Pass users won't. So until Game Pass grows until a critical mass that allows them to turn it into a profitable business,, if it even achives its, they will want to have a good alternative revenue sources, and the main Zenimax one, or at least a huge one, should be as of now to sell games on PlayStation.

The Disney and Fox deal has nothing to do with Microsoft and Zenimax. Microsoft isn't a market leader in gaming, they are the 3rd one behind Sony and Nintendo. Even addiing Zenimax revenue/market share. There are over 1500 million games sold for PS4 and way under 10% of them are from Zenimax, so won't have an impact on PS4/PS5 Sony 3rd party game sales (their main revenue source). So to remove Zenimax games from PlayStation would be a dumb move that would have basically no effect on the Xbox vs PlayStation competition, it only would mean tons of less revenue for Microsoft and to make a few fanboys happy.

Fox catalog of movies and IPs is way bigger than the Zenimax one, and unlike Zenimax has a substantial market share so means a huge move in the market because now combining Disney and Fox they are a clear market leader of the box office, that's why they paid 10 times more for Fox than for Zenimax:
https://www.statista.com/statistics/187171/market-share-of-film-studios-in-north-america-2010/

So in their case, being Disney a clear market leader and having tons of top movies and IPs that give them revenue from many sources and not being Netflix the main one at all, makes sense for Disney to avoid Netflix and co because Netflix is a small part of the revenue that Fox made, unlike it happens with Zenimax, for who PlayStation was their top, or one of their top, revenue source. For Disney, having Fox movies on Disney Plus and not in Neflix will mean to make more money than before while at the same time earn market share and crush a bit more their competitiors (in this case Netflix & co). For Microsoft, to have Zenimax games in Xbox and not in PlayStation would mean to make less money than before beause they already had them on Xbox and made most of their money on PlayStation where Zenimax had a tiny market share of the total games sold in PlayStation, while Fox's main revenue source wasn't Netflix and Fox catalog was more important for Netflix.

 

[FrankWza]

gonna be honest chief, I don't care about Jeff grubb any more than I care about you. Why are you trying to convince me that Jeff is wrong, whilst trying to reinvent the meaning of a console exclusive? PS3 had games release simultaneously on PC, while leaving out xbox and you wouldn't question whether or not they were exclusives? Morrowind released on the original Xbox and left the PS2 out, who would question it's exclusivity status?

Mass effect, used to be a console exclusive. Yrs later it rereleased for PS, imagine that? If anything MS has made thier exclusive content more accessible ( Tablet, phone PC, Smart TV streams) while still remaining exclusive to platforms that run MS's proprietary Service: Gamepass. The second Starfield is announced for another console, we can all agree that it's no longer a console exclusive.

You might want to go back and do some reading. I said the game is xbox console exclusive also available on pc. That’s not what he wrote. It can’t be exclusive on xbox AND pc. There’s a difference between exclusive and console exclusive or platform exclusive. Ratchet is a PS5 exclusive. Not available on any other console or platform ps or otherwise. Deathloop is timed PS5 exclusive and also available on pc. His tweet is wrong.

 

[ManaByte]

Most big 3rd party publishers get a big portion -in many cases half or even more- of their AAA revenue selling games/DLC/IAP on PlayStation, something explained with the install base market share. So I assume it's the same in the case of Zenimax. So I highly doubt they will reject all this huge amount of revenue just to make happy some fanboys, because as a company they will want to recoup the investment they did on Zenimax as fast as possible in some years and to get a positive ROI.

On top of that MS is already losing a ton of money almost giving away 1st and 3rd party games day one on Game Pass, and as Game Pass grows their revenue from 1st party sales on Xbox and PC will keep decreasing because even if a small portion of players will continue buying some of their favorite games on physical even if they already have them on Game Pass, the majority of Game Pass users won't. So until Game Pass grows until a critical mass that allows them to turn it into a profitable business,, if it even achives its, they will want to have a good alternative revenue sources, and the main Zenimax one, or at least a huge one, should be as of now to sell games on PlayStation.

You do realize Microsoft is a $2 trillion dollar company and doesn't need any money from PlayStation...right?

 

[Garani]

You guys always try to talk around the question.

yeah, that's not really accurate, i don't remember him directing movies like Suburban Sasquatch or the such. they weren't all home runs but 'fair share of bad movies' is more descriptive of a director like Roger Corman (who i think is great). sorry to nerd out on this.

He's been directing movies for 50 years and in that career are maybe three or four that could be considered "bad". And even as "bad" as those are, they're better than most other directors will ever do.

This will be my last on Spielberg, because it's off topic. Of course I would take the worst Spielber to any Ryan Johnson (just to name one director). And even Johnson is a decent director for the type of stories that are his forte. But there are far better directors than Spilberg, a lot more brave in exploring film making and themes. Any Tarantino, Kubrick, Burton (to name a few) is better than the best Spielberg. Spielberg is good, but then the best.

Yet here you are making multiple posts in this thread, you care, a lot

Because you have the right to go and speak about PS5 stuff, but I can't voice a comment on Bethesda? Come on!

Sony should have started getting a studio together to create elder scrolls and fallout killers soon as Microsoft brought Bethesda. Competition and rivalry could produce some excellent games in the future if they go for it. All the outcry will definitely have got Sony attention.

This is why I keep saying that a successful XBox is good for Playstation: it pushes competition and we, the consumers, will rip all the benefit

So if Starfield is on Xbox and PC but not any other console what does that make it.

A Microsoft published title?

No GamePass on Playstation - no Bethesda games on PS5. Why Playstation fanboys dont understand this??.

And we, Playstation fanboys, should care because...

 

[Neil Young]

What's with all the hype around this game and Bethesda in general?

Played all their games in the past 2 decades.

Then why have you played ALL OF THEIR GAMES! Good lord.

 

[Dolomite]

You might want to go back and do some reading. I said the game is xbox console exclusive also available on pc. That’s not what he wrote. It can’t be exclusive on xbox AND pc. There’s a difference between exclusive and console exclusive or platform exclusive. Ratchet is a PS5 exclusive. Not available on any other console or platform ps or otherwise. Deathloop is timed PS5 exclusive and also available on pc. His tweet is wrong.

So it's a consoles exclusive? Dope. You get it, I get it and we can all agree that arguing over what tier of exclusivity an IP has is derivative, since each console's respective competitor won't have access to begin with.

 

[Dr Bass]

Except they aren't. People are ignoring this:

Man this video is difficult to watch. Who thinks this kind of marketing passing as some kind of "off-the-cuff discussion" is a good idea? It's like watching the home shopping network, with some sales person telling me why X product is just so necessary in my life. It's embarrassing for anyone who agrees to take part in it, and that includes Spencer and Howard. I don't understand what adult is fooled by this stuff.

Starfield will be exclusive. We don't need to watch tripe like this to know that.

 

[FrankWza]

So it's a consoles exclusive? Dope. You get it, I get it and we can all agree that arguing over what tier of exclusivity an IP has is derivative, since each console's respective competitor won't have access to begin with.

I never said anything different. You just jumped on one post without context. The tweet is still wrong and this thread is about the tweet. They’re making it console exclusive on xbox but they’re probably introducing 2-3 other ways to play the game on their service. It won’t be an exclusive because it’s available on other platforms. You can’t just throw the word around without meaning. He did with an emphatic period like he was being a hype man and he bungled it.

 

[yurinka]

You do realize Microsoft is a $2 trillion dollar company and doesn't need any money from PlayStation...right?

Maybe they don't need it, but they have been doing it, they said they will continue doing it and in business terms it would be dumb to don't continue doing it. So they will continue doing it. For sure not with all their games, many or maybe even all with timed console exclusivity but they will.

 

[ManaByte]

So they will continue doing it.

 

[VFXVeteran]

Guys, the arguing over exclusive is asinine.

PC is a shared platform. No company owns a PC. It shouldn't even be in the discussion.

Exclusive means only MS and only Sony and only Nintendo. Period.

 

[Topher]

Guys, the arguing over exclusive is asinine.

PC is a shared platform. No company owns a PC. It shouldn't even be in the discussion.

Exclusive means only MS and only Sony and only Nintendo. Period.