Realistic looking faces are getting better, but two things that are still bad making them look like zombies are:
I think we've gotten close with eyes. We still have a ways to go with mouths. From Modern Warfare:
Def not a bad attempt by IW thoughI think we've gotten close with eyes. We still have a ways to go with mouths. From Modern Warfare:
Some of it looks photorealistic until she moves her mouth.
No one did because we're all ashamed of our words.
because the cut scenes in modern warfare are pre-rendered cgi instead of in-game cut scenes.I think we've gotten close with eyes. We still have a ways to go with mouths. From Modern Warfare:
Some of it looks photorealistic until she moves her mouth.
There are no mental gymnastics because she has an average face and average people exist. Nowhere in the lore of Horizon did they say Aloy was a supermodel or had the beauty of the gods
OMG Aloy is pregnant!There are no mental gymnastics because she has an average face and average people exist. Nowhere in the lore of Horizon did they say Aloy was a supermodel or had the beauty of the gods
She has a bigger jawline now, which could be due to quite a few factors that also happen in real life like aging or weight gain. It is what it is.
Mental gymnastics would be to try and convince everyone that Aeris or Yuffie from FFVII Remake have real life faces.
IDK what they doing but Aloy and the Chick from Returnal are not lookers at all loli thought they did a remarkable job of capturing the likeness of aloy's new model
i thought they did a remarkable job of capturing the likeness of aloy's new model
But in fantasy movies and even comics people get gritty and dirty. Why can't games?
When you use photogrammetry to capture a subject ideally you would have a lighting set up that gives you very flat lighting as shadows and occlusion can screw up the scan data. Which is why most scan data, even the top of the line stuff, still needs some clean up in a digital sculpting package such as ZBrush.
It’s the other side of those feminist character design comments from ResetEra.
Courtney Hope is so hot. I don't know what the fuck they did with her face. She was fine in Quantum Break. Poor her.I personally never liked scan faces in games because they always something off about them.https://images.app.goo.gl/SkAGs32FvFKejfMZ7
I personally like custom faces that most Japanese developers use for their games.....They less realistic but I don't know they feel more natural to me.
Fun fact: I've seen people in off-topic complain about/make fun of the looks of 2 out of 5 of the people in that screenshot.Gritty and dirty does not mean the character has to be ugly.
Try and find an under-chin angle shot of her to see if it matches.
100% Basing it off realistic while not going too far is the best thing JP developers do instead of just scanning. It comes off as way more natural and never hits uncanny valley or looks stiff. I don't know what the Yakuza developers do despite keeping it so close to the actors for the main characters, but they also make sure it doesn't go too far. Also, I just don't care about the actor behind them outside of their voice work when it comes to a video game.I personally never liked scan faces in games because they always something off about them.
I personally like custom faces that most Japanese developers use for their games.....They less realistic but I don't know they feel more natural to me.
Beauty is certainly subjective, but most actresses are generally attractive by general consensus. From what I've seen in film, men and women are generally attractive, but not too attractive to the point where it's actually distracting. And depending on the film, the most attractive are actually dressed down. Charlize Theron in Fury Road is a great example of that.
Yep. Here's Jill from RE3make without makeup (and without chapstick, it seems):
Games can be anything that the designers want them to be. They're not your games.
These are all under feed sex slaves from a movie. Wearing that, will leave you with no skin.Gritty and dirty does not mean the character has to be ugly.
Oh it's not the no-makeup look, it's the "no-makeup" look. Thanks for clearing that up.
Google searching "postmodern" will beget that kind of response.
The problem with this line of thinking is that you genuinely believe one can't exist without the other. There could literally be zero blue haired people at a dev team who genuinely want to make an average looking woman protagonist(again, as tech progresses to show that we can finally do blemishes and wrinkles), and you'll automatically slot them under 'pandering', when that wasn't even their intent to begin with, because in your mind they're already perceived to be one way.
Lol, you can call it whatever you want, but the reality is that female game characters don't have to be supermodels. And if you ask most character designers, they don't care about how attractive a character is.
Good that you can actually understand thingsOh it's not the no-makeup look, it's the "no-makeup" look. Thanks for clearing that up.
Thank you, I'm learning so much from you. Who knew that a low-resolution photo that I found in 5 seconds on Google doesn't show every single imperfection of the actress' skin??
The only thing I don't understand is why you're being pedantic about a low-resolution photo in the defense of unattractive Western character designs. And also acting like a dick for no reason. But I guess some people are just that miserable.
Your words, not mine.
Without getting too heavy into Aesthetics, I'm quite sure Michelangelo wasn't consulting his marketing team when he sculpted the statue of David. Regardless, let's assume that marketing is the cause. I would presume that marketing did market research in an attempt to understand their target market. Perhaps, the majority of feedback they received - as consensus - preferred attractive character models to less attractive models? If so, what inferences could you possibly conclude from this?
No, don't do this.
You're barking up the wrong tree, idiot. Look up my post history and you'll see there is no "trashing" of western developers. Literally all I did was post a picture I found on Google in 5 seconds as an example to back up OP lmao. And then that other nerd got offended with his 'ACKTUALLY its not no-makeup its "no-makeup" spiel'
The point is that artists don't like following forumas/traditions because they're inherently boring.
Borrowing this from the Aloy thread:
Also makeup:
Also instagram filters and facetune:
Don't let social media, magazine covers, and makeup warp your perception of reality.
You're a bit premature. You're asking for a response to something that was never posited.
