sony used to be a company that had quality at the top of priorities, if you start making decisions solely on possible profits, you start losing the fanbaseVery few people in here seem to understand how a business works. However, it seems the average age in here is about 13 so that makes sense. (Or maybe that's the average IQ, the jury is still out on that)
They never said they were going to avoid crossgen games. They always said they wanted to see games using their next gen tech but that they were going to support PS4 during at least 2 or 3 years after PS5 launch. They are doing exactly what they said.
Until they do next gen true game. NO im not surprise.What I want to know is why we are getting such diminishing returns in these games? For example. I can argue days gone in ps4 pro looks better than returnal built ground up on ps5, and it also runs at a higher resolution. Returnal is just running at 60fps.
I haven’t seen any generational leaps visually from ps4/pro other than FR and resolution.
8GB ram - 16GB
HDD - SSD
1.8 TF - 10.3 TF
idgi?
Dude im not making it up lol the head of Playstation and Cerny said it if you gone be mad be mad at them for straight up lying to us all.
Not ashamed to say that I'm a bit confused.. 20% slower loading? install sizes? Seems a lot, but I'll take your word for it.yes 20% isn't that much
Well, it's going to be hard to come to a point of agreement when you are actively pretending that this wasn't deceitful.
I mean, it was. And here you are acting like I'm "throwing the word around".
Also, not sure why you are writing off the fact that it is cross-gen. That does have an effect on the game's potential. Yes, even the PS5 version.
Sounds like you just don't want to acknowledge it and want everyone to shut up about it, to be frank.
sony used to be a company that had quality at the top of priorities, if you start making decisions solely on possible profits, you start losing the fanbase
no I was taking about GPU power ..there's a thread about ue5 test running on a ssd Evo 970 Sam a 4k 60fps ..go to check it how much supercalifragilisticexpialidocious i/o it need. That pr brainwashed some of you.Not ashamed to say that I'm a bit confused.. 20% slower loading? install sizes? Seems a lot, but I'll take your word for it.
But it can be even more.And yet Horizon Forbidden West is the best looking game I've ever seen. Your point is moot.
I think Sony where somehow able to edit their Youtube video graphic overlays (i.e. 'exclusive') without having to re-upload I seem to remember?
Well there goes the SSD straight to the garbage bin.
What happen to "We believe in generations" ??? and whats with all this spin from you lolThere’s a difference between “Sony is releasing some games that utilize the full power of their new console, while other don’t as the generation begins” and “Sony is lying about them creating games that can only be possible on the PS5”.
The first is reality the second is just whining about Sony not releasing enough games to YOUR liking, and eating massive losses on $300 billion budgets for a small install base. It was easier to make next gen only games when the budgets were a third of the size they are now or even a fifth.
There’s no indication that they won’t continue with their approach of some games only on PS5 and some games not. And it will get less and less skewed towards cross gen even next year.
That doesn't sound like a game.no I was taking about GPU power ..there's a thread about ue5 test running on a ssd Evo 970 Sam a 4k 60fps ..go to check it how much supercalifragilisticexpialidocious i/o it need
sony used to be a company that had quality at the top of priorities, if you start making decisions solely on possible profits, you start losing the fanbase
Well, I don't want to go in circles, but since you brought it up again, yes "release date changes happen all the time", but context matters. Sony was very deceitful in this situation. It is clear that they knew the game would not launch in 2021 when they announced it. When you straight up know that what you are saying isn't true, but you say it anyway. that's called deceitful. That doesn't bug you - I get that. But you shouldn't be surprised that it bugs other people. Again....Not every game delay is equal.Okie Dokie then
The first god of was was fantastic, and was a PS4 game, and from the footage we have seen of horizon, another cross gen game i have no doubt this will look fantastic, and at the very least will run butter smooth on newer hardware.
GT7 looks to literally just be GT Sport will new tracks and cars, running better, i can only see the differences being the number of cars on the track, other then that it will most likely just run at a lower res too on PS4.
I know the ps5 beings new potential, but that potential will come, this gen has launched into a post pandemic world, something thats never happened, supply chains are fucked, peoples jobs are fucked alot of peoples lives are fucked.
I honestly didnt even think we would have new consoles, but we have them and i love mine, but till the world catches up and peoples lives get back to normal, im happy to just have the games come out and people be able to play them and the companies make enough money that these teams can eventually get to the pure next gen stuff.
And like i said before, release dates have changes from the initial trailer since the dawn of time, and im sure it is marketing to get you buying the console, but the game wasnt cancelled, just pushed back, it will come.
Maybe because they still weren't sure if the game was going to be able to run at a proper performance on base PS4, so they prefered to work in both versions, announce it only for PS5 and if PS4 wasn't enough for the game then they would drop the PS4 version to avoid another Cyberpunk case.The titles were announced as PS5 games. If it's not a big deal, why did they hide this information?
If they start losing their fan base that means they aren’t making decisions off of possible profits….. The only way a company survives is by making profits. High profits = bigger fan base and vice versa. How is it possibly that by chasing higher profits they would lose their fan base. That makes zero sense, it’s the execution of the profit making model that could cause people to leave, but the profit incentive is a given for almost every company.
If you don’t think their recent games these last 3-4 years have not been on another level when it comes to quality at launch then I don’t know what games you’re playing man.
How so? Their workflows scale.
Well to be straight I haven't got the opportunity to test between MM PS4 and PS5 versions.How so? Their workflows scale. You will not have loading screens, and be able to use flying mounts without a transition in Forbidden west on PS5.
I doubt effects, LOD, DOF, character model desnity/detail will look as good on PS5. Let alone the amouint of area you will see.
Go play miles morales on PS4 then go to PS5.
Night and day difference, PS5 version is like a different game, and thats because it is.
I mean....they still have more actual ps5 exclusives in the past 7-8 months than xbox has had....everyou guys owe me and Phil an apology.
last year i said crossing a generation takes a few years. Phil words got trolled non stop.
But no, you just believed the jimbo hype and made fun of the reality we spoke of.
When is GT7 coming out again? 2023?
It's not that. People just don't like such blatant deceit from the companies they support. It's one thing to delay a game, it's one thing to make a cross-gen game, two years in.Very few people in here seem to understand how a business works. However, it seems the average age in here is about 13 so that makes sense. (Or maybe that's the average IQ, the jury is still out on that)
NOW workflows can scale?
Yeah maybe GOW because its a slash/beat emup. GT7 needs completely overhauling, physics, damage and dynamic weather etc. Can't see that happening with that Jag cpu in mind.The more money Sony makes the more they can spend on hiring and acquisitions to make even more and even better games. Last gen ports aren't going to keep GT7, Horizon and GoW from being amazing games on PS5.
........what games have they released recently that were not quality? Miles was great, Demon Souls was an amazing remake, Rachet comes out in a week or so, Returnal was a great new rogue-lite experience for people that have not played games like that before.....I am seeing a disconnect here......sony used to be a company that had quality at the top of priorities, if you start making decisions solely on possible profits, you start losing the fanbase
The way Sony designs their games is different and hard to compare 1:1 with xbox because they are setup differently in software, devkits, and the API's they use.
What happen to "We believe in generations" ??? and whats with all this spin from you lol
Making a game next-gen only early in a generation doesn't magically change that game dramatically as nobody is going to ditch the entirety of their last-gen tech that quickly for every game, particularly for large-scale games.
You make a big game that takes half a decade to make, that releases within a few years of a new generation, your sequel is going to be based on that tech you spent half a decade working on.. as well as going to be iterating on many of the art assets.
That's the reality of it. Sure some level design could change here or there, but if you think an occasional loading corridor being missing is actually a "dramatic change' for gaming I don't know what to tell you.
Yeah, GT7 will melt your eyeballs alright.After seeing how great HFW looks, I don’t really give a shit. GOW and GT7 are still gonna melt eyeballs and make your PS4 explode trying to run them.
So one company can scale workflows and the other can't.
I'd like to see that quote saying "all future games will be ps5 only" but I don't think it exists.
Almost looks ps3 gen honestly. You sure this was in the trailer? If so, there's no way people can be surprised after calling it ps5 only quality.Yeah, GT7 will melt your eyeballs alright.
This is from the reveal trailer and I say it again... I am actually surprised that anyone believed that this wasn't a cross gen game. Low res textures, low poly trees and NPCs, no ambient occlusion... the grass/foliage is laughable. That scene from the reveal trailer (at 30 seconds mark btw) looks like a better PS3 game.
And PS5 is ez to dev on it...And PS3 almost killed Sony as a company with losses which demolished profits from two previous generations lmao. Stop this child bullshit you all
I have no idea about game development but how do things like this work? If it's developed on PS5, can they just 'drop the quality sliders' so it runs on PS4? Like switching between ultra and low settings on a PC?. Guess the downside would be more cutscenes of Kratos squeezing through tight gaps and boosting characters up to a ledge lol
Yeah and hopefully we see it soon!All the "fans" throwing tantrums and the trolls taking pot shots are going to shut up the second GoW Ragnarok gets shown for the first time.
Considering how good Sony's cross-gen efforts look, I'm not worried. It's not like we're getting Halo Infinite after Halo Infinite here. Then, I'd be pissed.
Yes, I took that screenshot. It's a panning shot from the trailer at the 0:30 second mark.Almost looks ps3 gen honestly. You sure this was in the trailer? If so, there's no way people can be surprised after calling it ps5 only quality.