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A Halogaf Community Thread: The Old Becomes New

stickkidsam

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If we can get even a final tech preview in September on mah birfday... that'd be great.

Seriously I just want to play this damn game. For as many things as I could think of to worry about, that first preview gave me a LOT to love. I have no doubt the gameplay in this is going to be rock SOLID.


That's got some Michelangelo (fuck that's hard to spell) energy. WHY IS IT RAPH?
 
So uh... out of nowhere it looks like they've announced fucking Flood Firefight for MCC, amongst a bunch of other shit.

I kind of wish they'd put the guys working on MCC on Infinite because they are doing an excellent job with this game.
Why didn't they announce this at Gamescon? There are many many aspects to MCC that are indeed excellent (finally), however one area that continues to suck is social playlist management and cheating which continue to be garbage and completely lack variety or sustain of churn for maps/gametypes. If we get isolation, midship or assembly anymore there will literally be no other maps being selected. They're still heavily weighted months later and seasonal changes in between too. As for cheating we're now back to people able to kill a game entirely and lag other people out. Had it twice last night out of about 6 games, in social no less. Fuckers killed the game when we came back from losing to the final kills shifting our way for the win. Pathetic. 1) they can even still lag people out 2) they can lag themselves out and the game selects a new host but craps out and it's an unfinished game stating selecting a new host. On dedicated servers? WTF@#E@@!.

How that even functions is beyond me if it's dedis. I once heard there's an invisible host player sort of thing going on to get the older MCC titles working on dedis. Sounds like cheaters have learnt how to fuck with that.
 
Why in the ever loving fuck is isolation 2 flag still in the playlist rotation when you can still pass the flag between the windows. 343 really don't play their own game in the wild do they. SMH.
 
Why in the ever loving fuck is isolation 2 flag still in the playlist rotation when you can still pass the flag between the windows. 343 really don't play their own game in the wild do they. SMH.
Yeah that's a broken mess haha. I'm not a big fan of Isolation to begin with. I played some social ce slayer yesterday and got matched up against a pair of players (multiple games) that were one shotting everyone with sniper rifles. It sure felt like they were cheating, but perhaps not. I can't remember if they were controller or keyboard. I'd expect that using a mouse might trivialize aiming with the sniper rifle but I don't know. What I do know is there was no point in trying to paly. They were winning games at scores of like 50 to 10.
 

stickkidsam

Member
What country is this? In the US so far, we're just getting the standard disc in a flimsy plastic case (might as well just go digital) version. I also don't see Gamestop or Best Buy offering any extras either.
U.S. resident here. I pre ordered the collectors edition from Best Buy. It came with the steel book and that one Chief statue (normally sold separately) where he’s holding an AR while stepping forward… menacingly.
 
Check out the new helmets coming to Halo 3 and Reach in Season 8



 
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Yes.

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Havoc2049

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U.S. resident here. I pre ordered the collectors edition from Best Buy. It came with the steel book and that one Chief statue (normally sold separately) where he’s holding an AR while stepping forward… menacingly.
Ha... I remember that bundle. That was a while ago. I found that Target has the steel books if anyone is interested. Just plain Jane copies this go around is kinda lame, but it is what it is.
 
I like it Ozzy. Very gladiator-esque.

So at work but occasionally looking for anything Halo related on the interwebs. Saw these and chuckled a bit. The controversy abounds!


 

stickkidsam

Member
I feel conflicted here. I like having a few wild armors in Halo. I'm actually a bit bummed out that the Samurai armor was made non-canon. You could make some kind of case for there being some rare armors based off historical warrior cultures or legends. Especially since the UNSC has upped the publicity of Spartans with the IV program. It's also neat getting some new designs in the old games. A few of these look really rad.

On the other hand... there is not a doubt in my mind that this is TAME compared to what we're gonna see in Infinite's seasons. At this point we should probably just hold on to our BUTTS and hope to god that 343 has the sense to at least not turn the games into a total cartoon.

Yeah the Halo subreddit is completely shitting on the new helmets. I don't think they're THAT bad, and can be toggled off anyway, but they're definitely a bit jarring.
They can be toggled off?
 
Yeah the Halo subreddit is completely shitting on the new helmets. I don't think they're THAT bad, and can be toggled off anyway, but they're definitely a bit jarring.
Yes agreed. In many ways the Hayabusa helmet in Halo 3 really didn't fit Halo either but it does look good.

One thing I will say is that Halo will never become Fortnite, at least I hope not. They'd need to introduce dancing and no helmet spartans with pink hair for it to even begin to approach Fortnite levels.

Haha here we go :pie_roffles: I laugh haha but it's so true.
 
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stickkidsam

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Yes agreed. In many ways the Hayabusa helmet in Halo 3 really didn't fit Halo either but it does look good.
Funny thing is, that actually works since Infinite doesn't have RvB anymore. Those bois could be on the same team.

One thing I'll say for the Hayabusa helmet armor though is that looking at it, it still looks like something from Halo. I saw someone ask what the line is for artistic deviation, and they said "When you look at it and can't tell it's from a Halo game". That feels like the best answer to me. A lot of those new helmets look straight out of Doom (which looks fucking awesome). Hopefully 343 will try and walk that line instead of doubling down on the insanity.
 
I feel conflicted here. I like having a few wild armors in Halo. I'm actually a bit bummed out that the Samurai armor was made non-canon. You could make some kind of case for there being some rare armors based off historical warrior cultures or legends. Especially since the UNSC has upped the publicity of Spartans with the IV program. It's also neat getting some new designs in the old games. A few of these look really rad.

On the other hand... there is not a doubt in my mind that this is TAME compared to what we're gonna see in Infinite's seasons. At this point we should probably just hold on to our BUTTS and hope to god that 343 has the sense to at least not turn the games into a total cartoon.


They can be toggled off?
Yes, there is a toggle to ensure that you only see the original armor sets and not the mythic ones.
 
On the other hand... there is not a doubt in my mind that this is TAME compared to what we're gonna see in Infinite's seasons. At this point we should probably just hold on to our BUTTS and hope to god that 343 has the sense to at least not turn the games into a total cartoon.
Yeah I'm worried about that too. Unfortunately I think the leaked snowman head is probably a preview of what's to come. :/

Hopefully 343 will let us toggle off the more... "outlandish" armors in Infinite too.
 
Last night I played a few games of CE in the master chief collection and had an absolute blast. Gonna have to go back and watch my captures and maybe upload them. Of course my captures usually show poor gameplay when I think I had been playing well.

I had been playing Halo 3 and 4 a lot more recently for challenges but every time I go back to CE it just feels like home. The double melee in CE has to be the most satisfying button glitch in all of Halo. I was never a BXR person. Plus randomly melee'ing a person is much more situational and less op compared to manipulating the firing rate of the Battle rifle. That and the risk of blowing oneself up with grenades in CE.
 
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Good new vid from Xperia, sums up a lot of how I've been feeling about Infinite since the flight ended.



Also, invites for the new MCC flight are going out. I haven't gotten one yet but the new armors are VERY weird looking. Flood are indeed in ODST Firefight and it appears Elites are too. There also seems to be emotes?
 
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Good new vid from Xperia, sums up a lot of how I've been feeling about Infinite since the flight ended.



Also, invites for the new MCC flight are going out. I haven't gotten one yet but the new armors are VERY weird looking. Flood are indeed in ODST Firefight and it appears Elites are too. There also seems to be emotes?

Thanks for the heads up. I need to watch that Xperia video. Plus, there are no tweets from Xbox about Season 8 that I can tell. I've searched twitter and, while I can see all the pictures and updates from random people reacting, I didn't see any specific source or links.

EDIT: Bleah I still can't find anything. The stuff on Halowaypoint is old.

This guy has all sorts of stuff on his twitter feed but I don't know where it's coming from.


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Never mind. I'm an idiot again. It's insider stuff, which I don't think I signed up for the TMCC Insider. That's how slow my brain works. I spent over 10-15 minutes trying to figure this out :messenger_tears_of_joy:

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I am an insider. It's all the same thing :messenger_tears_of_joy::messenger_tears_of_joy:
 
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I'm actually okay with the post-game poses for Halo CE and Halo 3.

Well today has certainly been eventful. Marty has re-emerged, posting both a tweet and video that basically confirm Bungie went after him.




Dang that sucks. Really wish 343 could have worked with him somehow but I'm not sure he is or ever really was that interested.
 
Dang that sucks. Really wish 343 could have worked with him somehow but I'm not sure he is or ever really was that interested.
He's stated before that he's open to it but MS/343 have never reached out to him. Pretty sure they even blocked him from being involved in MCC's creation for whatever fucking reason. It just seems like all these companies hate him because he committed the cardinal sin of being willing to speak his mind and call out bullshit instead of just going along with everything like a mindless corporate drone.
 
He's stated before that he's open to it but MS/343 have never reached out to him. Pretty sure they even blocked him from being involved in MCC's creation for whatever fucking reason. It just seems like all these companies hate him because he committed the cardinal sin of being willing to speak his mind and call out bullshit instead of just going along with everything like a mindless corporate drone.
So essentially he was cancelled. I wish I knew the whole story.
 
So essentially he was cancelled. I wish I knew the whole story.
A lot of it stems from Destiny 1 and how he wasn't happy with how things were being handled. He ruffled feathers which lead to Bungie firing him. He then sued them and won. I get the feeling there's been bad blood between them ever since.

I dunno what MS/343's problem with him is though, unless they just view him as a "liability" or something.
 
I downloaded the TMCC Insider last night. It was like 53 gigs and now I only have 3 gigs of space left on my Xbox one between Halo 5, The Master Chief Collection, and the TMCC Insider lol.



A lot of it stems from Destiny 1 and how he wasn't happy with how things were being handled. He ruffled feathers which lead to Bungie firing him. He then sued them and won. I get the feeling there's been bad blood between them ever since.

I dunno what MS/343's problem with him is though, unless they just view him as a "liability" or something.
I had no idea he sued and won. That is pretty epic. I'm gonna have to do some google searching for more info.
 
If I'm not included in that top 25 list I'm going to feel very slighted.

Jimmy Fallon Lol GIF by The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon



JUDGING​

A panel of judges outside of the HCS team and across all Halo generations were selected and tasked with creating their own individual Top 25 lists.

They are:

  • Bravo – Former Halo Pro Coach, and Commentator
  • Elamite – Former Halo Pro, and Commentator
  • Goldenboy – Halo Commentator (Also a Global Icon and National Treasure)
  • Clutch – Former Halo Pro, and Commentator
  • Walshy – Former Halo Pro, and Commentator
  • Goofy – Former Halo Pro, and Commentator
  • Mikwen – Former Halo Pro
  • Gaskin – Halo Commentator
  • Heinz – Former Halo Pro.
From there, we assigned a point value to each placing for each one of their lists. The 25th player on each of their lists received 1 point, and the 1st player on each of their lists received 25 points. We then tallied up the points for each of the players to create the final and official Top 25 list. The player with the highest total point value was named the Greatest Halo Player of All Time. The player with the 25th highest point value was named the 25th Greatest Halo Player of All Time.

In the case of the two players having the same exact point total, the tie was broken based on which of the tied players received the single highest ranking from one of the judges. For example, imagine two players were tied for 17th. Player A’s highest ranking on one of the judge’s lists was 12th. Player B’s highest ranking on one of the judge’s lists was 13th. Therefore, Player A received 17th on the list, Player B received 18th on the list.

The judges were given the following criteria and guidelines:

  • Focus on greatness in competition. External greatness around sponsorships, popularity, kindness, etc should NOT be a factor.
  • While 4v4 is the main competition and focus, consideration for other accolades including MVPs, individual tournament wins, and more can also be made.
  • Where possible, you should take statistics into consideration as well as including things like Kills, Assists, average placement, winning streaks, event wins, and more.
  • Other intangible considerations around reputation in the game, leadership, play-making abilities, eye test, and more can also be made.


SCHEDULE​

The players will be announced on the HCS Twitter account starting on Monday 9/6 at 10am PT, and for the first week we’ll be revealing three players a day which will then leave us with the Top 10. Along with the announcement, we’ll be celebrating the player’s success and sharing memories from their career. We encourage everyone to join the conversation online and share your favorite memories as well!

In Week 2 starting on Monday 9/13, we’ll be releasing a video each day starting with #10 and ending with #6. Each of these videos will be soley dedicated to the player, and you'll hear from Halo legends across the ages as they talk about what makes each of these players so great.

In Week 3, starting on Monday 9/20, we’ll again be releasing a video dedicated to each player. On Thursday 9/23, we’ll open up a community poll so you can weigh in on who you think is the Greatest Player of All Time. Finally on the last day, we will reveal both #2 and #1 players on the list, and again each with their dedicated video and time in the spotlight.

THE FINAL POINTS​

Without revealing the names, we wanted to reveal the list and associated points so fans can see just how closely contested the list was. Halo pros both retired and current on this list are truly the Greatest Players of All Time.

  1. 219 Points
  2. 216 Points
  3. 192 Points
  4. 186 Points
  5. 174 Points
  6. 171 Points
  7. 158 Points
  8. 157 Points
  9. 149 Points
  10. 142 Points
  11. 129 Points
  12. 85 Points
  13. 83 Points
  14. 82 Points
  15. 78 Points
  16. 72 Points
  17. 68 Points
  18. 64 Points
  19. 51 Points
  20. 41 Points
  21. 39 Points
  22. 39 Points
  23. 35 Points
  24. 33 Points
  25. 28 Points
 
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Quick thoughts:

I didn't see anything egregious in that update. I was surprised they are keeping the hammer the same as I hated using it. It was slow and felt like the slowness was not only awkward but affected my aim with it as well.

Personally I like the radar not showing people who are sprinting or using their weapon. But it looks like 343 had enough complaints and are changing it back to a traditional radar. Lame.

They are looking at the HUD and considering changes. I hope they can implement a better and more intuitive version.

The last thing that I really cared about was the friend or foe system feedback and I guess they will continue to work on it. But they are going to make improvements to allow players to better see overshield, depleted shields, and what not. So that's good.
 
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I finally got to try out the season 8 flight for TMCC. The customizations are actually legit spiffy. I'm not really a fan of any of the new helmets but I went ham playing with all the other options. They've added animated visors to Halo 3, which is pretty sick. One other thing I noticed was that Halo CE has a new HuD and perhaps it felt just a tad different from what I'm used to. Not sure if I was imagining things. I need to take a screenshot of my Halo 3 armor. I used the rogue helmet but everything else is from season 8.

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Ugh why do my screenshots always look like trash lol...
 
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Turn on my console and there is Infinite multiplayer install and preorder on the dash. Installed some 230Mb and started it. The expected message of too early.
 
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stickkidsam

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lmfao Okay… okay… who was the genius who came up with “Light Armor” and “Heavy Armor” for Halo: Reach?

Last time I checked, wearing light armor doesn’t make your ass cheeks grow like they just discovered the meaning of Christmas. I wasn’t surprised to see this body type shit in Infinite but really? 343 is gonna go and pretend that Reach didn’t specify male and female? I’m dying xD
 
lmfao Okay… okay… who was the genius who came up with “Light Armor” and “Heavy Armor” for Halo: Reach?

Last time I checked, wearing light armor doesn’t make your ass cheeks grow like they just discovered the meaning of Christmas. I wasn’t surprised to see this body type shit in Infinite but really? 343 is gonna go and pretend that Reach didn’t specify male and female? I’m dying xD
Wasn't gonna say anything but... yeah. Stupid as fuck but not too surprised. :rolleyes:
 
Weird Halo thought of the day...

Why is the preorder campaign at AUD$99.95? Since multiplayer went F2P why isn't the overall campaign price lower? We're expected to pay the same price as the old games. It seems off by comparison to previous titles and pricing.
 
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Weird Halo thought of the day...

Why is the preorder campaign at AUD$99.95? Since multiplayer went F2P why isn't the overall campaign price lower? We're expected to pay the same price as the old games. It seems off by comparison to previous titles and pricing.
It is interesting that they're selling it at the same price. It might be worth it if 343 is going to add to the campaign story down the road via dlc and that dlc will be free. But since no one knows what is happening with the campaign - its development and its future - it is a hard pill to swallow. Or just wait until the game releases and play via gamepass.
 
It is interesting that they're selling it at the same price. It might be worth it if 343 is going to add to the campaign story down the road via dlc and that dlc will be free. But since no one knows what is happening with the campaign - its development and its future - it is a hard pill to swallow. Or just wait until the game releases and play via gamepass.
I'll get it via GP but just found it really weird pricing.
 
Another tweet I agree with



More posts because I love posting things lol.
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More HiddenXperia. I just love listening to people geek out over Halo. His enthusiasm is what I love most about his videos.
 
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