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How PlayStation Plus Compares to Xbox Game Pass and Nintendo Switch Online

Topher

Gold Member
I'd say 95% of PS fans posting on Neogaf have expressed that gamepass is bad for those reasons listed above. So that's why I don't see this being successful. Unless those criticisms of Gamepass weren't genuine.

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MY biggest annoyance out of that list (excluding the day one games) is that Nintendo do a family plan! I did not realise this.

I would pay a few extra quid a month for a family plan so my daughter can use it on her xbox (she rarely plays so I'm not buying another subscription).
 

Schmick

Member
MY biggest annoyance out of that list (excluding the day one games) is that Nintendo do a family plan! I did not realise this.

I would pay a few extra quid a month for a family plan so my daughter can use it on her xbox (she rarely plays so I'm not buying another subscription).
Pretty sure you can share you Gamepass library anyway across two consoles.

 

The_Mike

I cry about SonyGaf from my chair in Redmond, WA
Ryse isn't a console seller, but it was a dumb fun graphic demo like Godfall was for ps5.
xbox has the best online service since the 360 era, no need to do comparisons.
To be fair, the time I played on my ps4 for a short duration of time a year ago i didn't notice any problems, whereas I suffered a minor problem logging in with game pass one or two times where the problem lasted only 5 minutes but were still annoying (on pc and game share so couldn't log in)
 

Dodkrake

Banned
"This list is wrong because there's no yearly prices for Gamepass" - "That's because gamepass doesn't have a yearly plan at a discount"

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"Yeah, but gamepass actually costs 1 quid per month" - "No, it really doesn't, it's just the first month"

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"Yeah, but gamepass has day one releases" - "nothing prevents Playstation Plus from having day one releases, they just won't have sony studios day one releases"

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"Sure, but I can download all games instead of streaming them. Check mate"

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PS: I hate streaming services for games and will not avail of anything other than the Essential plan (which is what I have right now). Additionally, they are different services and quite obviously different strategies competing with eachother. I wouldn't expect them to be the same, nor one is better than the other. I'm excluding Nintendo here, btw.
 
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Godot25

Banned
PS Plus is just worse Game Pass. Catalogue of third party games without day one first party games. And knowing Sony, they won't even have their first-party as permanent additions to the catalogue. And it costs same amount of money.
 

Topher

Gold Member
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Banjo64

cumsessed
PS Plus is just worse Game Pass. Catalogue of third party games without day one first party games. And knowing Sony, they won't even have their first-party as permanent additions to the catalogue. And it costs same amount of money.
Not really. The meat and potatoes is the Xbox One/Series and PS4/5 offerings.

£83.99 for 12 months vs £131.88.

£47.89 difference.

I mean I’m not going to lie, if they slap Returnal and Rift Apart in this thing day one, even if they’re only on there for 3-6 months initially, it’d probably make the £83.99 worth it to me.
 

Topher

Gold Member
Since I can get Game Pass Ultimate for 3 years for 181$ it's not really a valid point isn't it, right?

No, that is very much a valid point. Just as the point that I made that I can get Game Pass without paying a dime with Microsoft Rewards. I'm talking about the pricing structure that most people are going to pay.

Is that a permanent offer, or could Microsoft pull it tomorrow?

Most definitely not permanent. Microsoft is allowing all kinds of loopholes to build a subscriber base. It is a good strategy, but at some point all those loopholes will close.
 
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Godot25

Banned
Is that a permanent offer, or could Microsoft pull it tomorrow?
Well, since I used it yesterday I really don't care rn. So I paid 181$ for 3 years of GPU vs. 360$ for 3 years of PS Plus :) You can do the math.

And tbh, Game Pass Ultimate even at 180$ per year provides much more value then PS Plus at 120$ considering fact that I just last year saved up much more because I wanted to buy Outriders, Forza Horizon 5, Halo Infinite and The Ascent day one but I didn't need to thanks to Game Pass. And this year it will be A Plague Tale: Requiem, STALKER 2, Starfield, Forza Motorsport, Redfall and Deathloop at minimum
 
Well, since I used it yesterday I really don't care rn. So I paid 181$ for 3 years of GPU vs. 360$ for 3 years of PS Plus :) You can do the math.

And tbh, Game Pass Ultimate even at 180$ per year provides much more value then PS Plus at 120$ considering fact that I just last year saved up much more because I wanted to buy Outriders, Forza Horizon 5, Halo Infinite and The Ascent day one but I didn't need to thanks to Game Pass. And this year it will be A Plague Tale: Requiem, STALKER 2, Starfield, Forza Motorsport, Redfall and Deathloop at minimum
I have gamepass ultimate , a series x and ps5 console and I’m planning to get the top tier ps+ subscription as well. Personally I feel ps+ will be much more valuable to me because let’s face it, Sony has a long history of great exclusives that you can play on their service while, let’s be honest, Xbox first party games are not great. Even the latest games you can see the user base going down quickly and I got bored with halo as well after like 2 hours. Maybe ms has great games in the future but they’re not there yet and the quality of the games in gamepass is largely average at best. While the library of ps+ will be both larger and higher quality. Only difference with ms is that ms have first day release of their exclusives but that’d only be valuable if they’d be really good. Maybe in the future they will, but they’re not there yet now.
 
Ps plus and gamepass are the basically the same thing minus day 1 games for ps plus. Though I hear sony are putting much newer games like returnal on there. If they add more like ratchet and demons souls, then i would subscribe. Let's not forgot 3rd party either. Sony will try to make deals with them too.
 
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Tams

Member
The real big thing is: All three charge you to use the internet you already pay for.

Nintendo isn't giving you modern games either, and is actually more expensive when you factor in you can get PS+ or Xbox live for a discounted rate on ebay.
This is a stupid take.

They aren't charging you for your Internet connection. They're charging you for using their servers. And those servers do not come cheap. Go ask any server mod (who is involved in actually technically running it).

Nothing is truly free. The sooner you realise this; the better.
 
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JLB

Banned
Ps plus and gamepass are the basically the same thing minus day 1 games for ps plus. Though I hear sony are putting much newer games like returnal on there. If they add more like ratchet and demons souls, then i would subscribe. Let's not forgot 3rd party either. Sony will try to make deals with them too.

Do this math: If you are a new user, and sub to PS plus: How many games become available? Now: If you sub to GP: How many on that case?
Thats the other little big difference.
 
Normally I'd agree with you but millions of gamers want a PS5 that dont have one yet. PlayStation + Extra tier will be a Godsend and save me money on day 1 as I dont have a PS5 yet hopefully by the time the service launch I do and wont need to buy all the games I want to catch up on. For hard core gamers who got the console day 1 and purchased all the games they've wanted and easily still able to keep up won't need this.

Yeah that's fair, I mean I think any of these subscriptions or services like the PS Collection add great short term value for people just getting a console or jumping into the ecosystem for the first time.

I guess I'm thinking about the long term value, which is a valid concern when we're talking about a subscription service. Say you get your PS5 later this year. Like most players, you'll probably buy God of War Ragnarok when it releases. And future first party games too. So when these games that you already own come to the subscription service a year or so later, what is the value of that service in terms of first party games?

You got Gamepass for like 6 games?

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Uh what? I'm talking specifically about the value of adding first party games day one. Obviously there's added value elsewhere.
 

JLB

Banned
This is a stupid take.

They aren't charging you for you Internet connection. Theycre charging you for using their servers. And those servers do not come cheap. Go ask any server mod (who is involved in actually technically running it).

Nothing is truly free. The sooner you realise this; the better.

This is correct, though the server bills in many cases would be easily covered by MTX profit.
 

nemiroff

Gold Member
I wonder why they omitted "Day One" and "Play Anywhere" (and PC integration for that matter) in their chart. These plus "Game Streaming" and "EA Play" should at least be their own categories, it doesn't make any sense to lump some of these together as a grey mass "misc" (especially since they put "trials" and "discounts" in their own categories).
 
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Calverz

Member
Ultimate is more expensive yearly, considerably more so.
This is a silly argument. The vast majority of people are going to get these as monthly. Not buy a yearly thing.

And anyway. It’s not really as you can find deals for gamepass ultimate if you are smart…..
 

Topher

Gold Member
This is a silly argument. The vast majority of people are going to get these as monthly. Not buy a yearly thing.

Not true on the PlayStation side and frankly I doubt that is true for Xbox gamers either. Jim Ryan said more than 2/3 PlayStation gamers subscribe annually. That just makes sense as it is a much better deal than paying monthly.
 
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adamsapple

Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
I'd say 95% of PS fans posting on Neogaf have expressed that gamepass is bad for those reasons listed above. So that's why I don't see this being successful. Unless those criticisms of Gamepass weren't genuine.


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This is a silly argument. The vast majority of people are going to get these as monthly. Not buy a yearly thing.

And anyway. It’s not really as you can find deals for gamepass ultimate if you are smart…..


It's not even a matter of being smart, MS officially advertises Gold to GPU conversion on Xbox.com

So essentially you can get 1 year of GPU for $60 + $1.
 
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Topher

Gold Member
It's not even a matter of being smart, MS officially advertises Gold to GPU conversion on Xbox.com

So essentially you can get 1 year of GPU for $60 + $1.

I wouldn't say they "advertise" it. If you look in the FAQs on the support page you'll find it there.
 
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adamsapple

Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
I wouldn't say the "advertise" it. If you look in the FAQs on the support page you'll find it there.

I've said before, they really ought to be advertising it a lot more. It's only a homepage on Xbox.com right now with barely any official mention.

But Gold to GPU is by far the cheapest way to get into the service.
 

Calverz

Member
Not true on the PlayStation side and frankly I doubt that is true for Xbox gamers either. Jim Ryan said more than 2/3 PlayStation gamers subscribe annually. That just makes sense as it is a much better deal than paying monthly.
Yea at the current price 🤣
I wouldn’t take that as the gospel when it comes to £100. I know lots of people who won’t pony up £100 on one go. They might pay monthly though.
 

Thirty7ven

Banned
Gamepass is a subscription being leveraged by MS deep pockets to price competition out of the market, and I've been vocal about how it doesn't serve the industry and it's a race to the bottom but Sony is on the other hand, asking a premium for a shit service with 0 transparency on how it will roll out releases for it and at the same time using its existence to keep being frugal with game discounts, something that in the past was one of its strenghts as it allowed money conscious fans to buy games at an affordable price if they waited.

These companies are treating their fanbases like buffoons, but at least MS is asking little in return.
 
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Topher

Gold Member
Yea at the current price 🤣
I wouldn’t take that as the gospel when it comes to £100. I know lots of people who won’t pony up £100 on one go. They might pay monthly though.

At a higher price there is even more incentive to pay annually. Why do you think people would want to actually pay more money out of their pocket by paying monthly? That makes no sense at all.
 
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Tams

Member
This is correct, though the server bills in many cases would be easily covered by MTX profit.
I'd rather pay a relatively cheap subscription for the product directly than encourage more microtransactions.
 
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Uh what? I'm talking specifically about the value of adding first party games day one. Obviously there's added value elsewhere.
This is still a small risk for MS compared to what Nintendo's and Sony's games are worth in therms of popularity.

I am not excited at the idea that I would have to pay to get access to a rolling library of games, which is smaller than the library of games I already own and more importantly picked according to my tastes.

Imagine wanting to replay Halo: infinite in a couple of years... Either the game will be completely different or it may or may not be on the current offerings.

We'll end up like people are with music/video/etc. Where people have to register to a couple of services and spend hundreds of dollars a month in gaming subscription services... Where they used to buy a couple of games, they choose, in a year and be able to play it for as long as they choose to.

Now, I would never even start a big openwold game on GP just in case it would leave before I reach the end.
 

Calverz

Member
At a higher price there is even more incentive to pay annually. Why do you think people would want to actually pay more money out of their pocket by paying monthly? That makes no sense at all.
Lmao. How do you think people buy houses and cars???!! The average user is not going to pay £100 lump sum every single year. Monthly payments are more manageable. Even if it means paying monthly.
 
I'd rather pay a relatively cheap subscription for the product directly than encourage more microtransactions.
They will push for microtransactions anyway, we have as much in paid games than in mobile games.

That should tell you all you need to know about how marketing works.
 

Topher

Gold Member
Lmao. How do you think people buy houses and cars???!! The average user is not going to pay £100 lump sum every single year. Monthly payments are more manageable. Even if it means paying monthly.

Are you seriously comparing a subscription to a gaming service to buying a house or a car? Don't be MrFunSocks MrFunSocks dude. Just don't.

Here....how about a real example...

Top Selling Xbox subscription on Amazon
Xbox Live Gold 12 Month Membership

Most wished for Xbox subscription on Amazon
Xbox Live Gold 12 Month Membership
 
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Do this math: If you are a new user, and sub to PS plus: How many games become available? Now: If you sub to GP: How many on that case?
Thats the other little big difference.

The number doesn't matter. I bet most people subscribe to play certain games. At the moment the flow of releases isn't good enough to continuously subscribe. Which is why Microsoft want to eventually release a game every quarter. Sony will have the same problem. Your not going to bring in alot of new subscribers just for old games. It's the newer games that will draw in like returnal and other newer ps5 games.
 

adamsapple

Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
I'd rather pay a relatively cheap subscription for the product directly than encourage more microtransactions.

Well, thankfully neither PS Now or GP seem like they're pushing/leaning folks more towards MTX shit right now.
 
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