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[Mibu no ookami]

It's possible they're waiting for the game to come together more and for some of the Elden Ring hype to die down a bit before revealing more gameplay.

If the game comes out in December, it's got to go gold by November, and if November, it needs to go gold by October.

With 6 months to go, there should be more gameplay available than what we've seen, so it is a decidedily marketing decision not to show this game, unless it is further than 6 months out and needs to be delayed and if that is the case, they probably need to just delay it. The problem is that Sony really doesn't have anything else on the docket for this year. They probably should have delayed Horizon a couple of months. They underestimated the Elden Ring hype.

 

[Wastelander92]

They probably waiting until they can give a hard date at the end. Already got delayed once, they don't want to do that again most likely.

 

[kraspkibble]

I’m not sure about that they both can arrive this year. I haven’t really paid attention to Starfield but I’ve seen some GoW2 gameplay so the game is definitely in a playable state. Pretty good chance we are getting it this year especially after the message from that SSM employee.

Maybe tell us why you believe GoW2 should be delayed?

lol what they gifs meant to show?

some bald dude swaggering up to an "amazing view". some dogs on ice. and somebody opening a door with their ass.

 

[Mibu no ookami]

Better to do the opposite of what Sony did for Deathloop.

Would Deathloop have been anywhere near as successful as it was without the broad marketing push behind it? That and the complete lack of other games at the time?

 

[ElCasual]

The game will be out a day before of the Playstation Showcase of June. So the next month will be a State of Play for God of War

 

[MatrixReloaded101]

Two big Sony games (Horizon and GT7) launched in the last two months. Why would they take away attention from those games by talking about God of War Ragnok now?

The game is probably not even coming out until the end of the year. Plus they will need games to counter what Xbox will drop at the end of the year to avoid not repeating what happened last year.

 

[ElCasual]

Would Deathloop have been anywhere near as successful as it was without the broad marketing push behind it? That and the complete lack of other games at the time?

I buy Deathloop but the IA is SO STUPID that I quit the game, yes the mechanics and art of the game are cool but the IA ruins the game.

 

[Mibu no ookami]

Why when it's only April. Go back to 2018 when we had barely seen any of God of War 2018. They didn't start promoting it until the end of January that year if I'm not mistaken. Ghost of Tsushima we barely knew anything about until April or May 2020. Sony typically doesn't take the full wraps off their games now until months before launch. The game could still be coming this summer/fall. I expect we'll see something here in the next couple months.

This is patently false.

There was a 10-minute gameplay trailer for God of War during e3 2016... there was a 9-minute e3 trailer for Ghost of Tsushima in 2018.

There has been a significant shift in Sony marketing after the release of Ratchet and Clank Rift Apart and the quality of Sony titles seems to have slipped a little bit starting with Rift Apart. The games aren't nearly as polished or whole as the primary pillars of the PS4 generation. Uncharted 4, Last of Us 2, Spider-Man, God of War, Zero Dawn, Ghost of Tsushima.

The lack of revolution with Zero Dawn and seemingly with Ragnarok is troubling. GOWR will be 2 years from the PS5 launch. It needs to drive things further than Forbidden West has.

 

[Chronicle]

It will come.

 

[Mibu no ookami]

I think the question for Sony marketing is do you want to release Forspoken and God of War at the same time. Forspoken isn't Elden Ring, but Sony has invested money in Forspoken being successful. That itself could lead to a delay of God of War or at least have it wait until early December.

 

[sircaw]

Personally, I would not worry too much, Sm Studios is one of the best in the business, and Sony has been on fire with what they have released since the ps5 launched.

I very much believe you will be getting another game of the year, so with that in mind, he is something to cheer you up.

 

[Topher]

I am yet to see why this is not being sold as dlc for the original GOW, I have played GOW recently on my ps4pro and I am not that excited about the ragnarok

DLC? sigh….

 

[Tiago Rodrigues]

Has schreier ever developed a game? How is that moron suddenly an expert?

What is this post...he doesn't develop games but he has a lot of inside info. Come on now

 

[adamsapple]

My PS4 Pro is ready.

 

[MasterCornholio]

lol what they gifs meant to show?

some bald dude swaggering up to an "amazing view". some dogs on ice. and somebody opening a door with their ass.

That the game is in a playable state. It’s not like we haven’t seen gameplay from it yet. I would be very concerned if that was the case.

 

[MasterCornholio]

What is this post...he doesn't develop games but he has a lot of inside info. Come on now

He was right about PlayStation Plus months ago and he even nailed the reveal. He’s got to have some sources to be that accurate.

 

[Tiago Rodrigues]

Right. So starfield likely releases this year and gow2 is pushed to next year. One has nothing to do with the other

Yes the game we've only seen one picture is the one not getting delayed but the one that was running amazing 6 months ago that we have actual footage from multiple setpieces is getting delayed lmao

 

[Mibu no ookami]

I am yet to see why this is not being sold as dlc for the original GOW, I have played GOW recently on my ps4pro and I am not that excited about the ragnarok

I think the reason here is how Guerrilla, Insomniac, Polyphony Digital, and Santa Monica has approached cross gen, which makes this look like DLC. It comes from the iterative succession of these games rather than feeling like a revolution.

When we look at gaming sequels, particularly gaming sequels on different generations of consoles, we expect significantly bigger games and better gameplay, not just higher resolution and framerate.

God of War 2018 runs at 1080p30 on base ps4.

So their answer is just to do 4K60 on PS5. Honestly, that isn't enough to get most people excited.

 

[Warnen]

For sure holding it back till the PC version is done


..... one can dream right?

 

[Borowski_1]

I think the question for Sony marketing is do you want to release Forspoken and God of War at the same time. Forspoken isn't Elden Ring, but Sony has invested money in Forspoken being successful. That itself could lead to a delay of God of War or at least have it wait until early December.

i think Forspoken will be a flop

also, there's Starfield, CoD, Hogwarts, Forspoken, Gotham Knights, probably Fallen Order 2, stuff from Nintendo, all around October-November

does Sony want to release GoW in that period?

 

[Hezekiah]

The Sony Santa Monica community manager just confirmed again last week that God of War Ragnarok is 2022

Great news. The good thing is that the devs have stuck with this year as the release date, plus we have seen a few minutes of gameplay footage six months ago.

 

[Mibu no ookami]

i think Forspoken will be a flop

also, there's Starfield, CoD, Hogwarts, Forspoken, Gotham Knights, probably Fallen Order 2, stuff from Nintendo, all around October-November

does Sony want to release GoW in that period?

It'll definitely want to be a flop, but it's in Sony's best interest to maximize the sales of Forspoken since they paid for exclusivity.

Without knowing what Sony has planned for Q1/Q2 2023, it's impossible to say.

 

[Represent.]

If Horizon Forbidden West is anything to go by, I don't think that'll be the case...

HFW is the best looking game ever made by a wide margin

 

[vaibhavpisal]

HFW is the best looking game ever made by a wide margin

Subjective.

I think it's Elden Ring cause of massive world with little to no copy paste areas.

 

[Represent.]

Subjective.

I think it's Elden Ring cause of massive world with little to no copy paste areas.

im sorry but elden ring is objectively not even close to the best looking game ever.

HFW also has no copy and paste. the world GG created is stunning

 

[OceanGaming]

It's been 6 months since we had the only thing that can be labled as "info". So it's now April and we're yet to have a release date, or anything new , really

Just like with "WhErE Is StArFiElD GaMePlAy?" -concern- , just calm your titties and wait for May/June/July.

 

[LordCBH]

We’ll get a state of play for it about a month out from release.

 

[MasterCornholio]

Subjective.

I think it's Elden Ring cause of massive world with little to no copy paste areas.

As much as I love Elden Ring it looks last gen to me. It’s a fantastic game but it isn’t close to HFW level of visuals.

 

[Balducci30]

What’s up with people concerned with games due to lack of pr 9 months before release?

 

[Borowski_1]

We’ll get a state of play for it about a month out from release.

and nothing else before that?

but would be the poorest marketing campaign for a Sony first party

 

[Fredrik]

They've convinced themselves that it wasn't the main studio who made 76 as a coping mechanism

It’s not about coping, FO76 was simply a collaboration between multiple Bethesda teams since the main Maryland team lacked experience in online games. And that didn’t work out. They obviously aren’t throwing anyone under the bus but they’ve said that one group went directly from FO4 to Starfield, so these Starfield devs, no idea how many, should be out of the FO76 blaming equation at least.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

It’s not about coping, FO76 was simply a collaboration between multiple Bethesda teams since the main Maryland team lacked experience in online games. And that didn’t work out. They obviously aren’t throwing anyone under the bus but they’ve said that one group went directly from FO4 to Starfield, so these Starfield devs, no idea how many, should be out of the FO76 blaming equation at least.

Yeah, that's the standard production pipeline for Bethesda. You'll also have a group that's gone directly to ES6 for pre-production when they launched 76

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

Dupe post

 

[DenchDeckard]

I don’t believe the game had a Craig like moment to be honest. It definitely won’t be like a Halo Infinite type delay.

Oh yeah, deffo no chance of a Craig moment.

 

[adamsapple]

They've convinced themselves that it wasn't the main studio who made 76 as a coping mechanism

But it wasn't. That should be more well known by now than it is.

No one's saying that Bethesda Maryland just let them at it with no assistance, but Bethesda Austin is the new studio that did most of the grunt work.

 

[MasterCornholio]

Oh yeah, deffo no chance of a Craig moment.

Let’s just assume that it does get delayed.

I’m pretty sure it won’t be because the game looks terrible or overall a broken mess. And it definitely will not be because of any negative feedback from the public.

With that said whenever it does come out I’m pretty sure the game will be fine. I’m not worried about it having any severe issues at launch.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

But it wasn't. That should be more well known by now than it is.

No one's saying that Bethesda Maryland just let them at it with no assistance, but Bethesda Austin is the new studio that did most of the grunt work.

Todd said it himself but i'm not going to bother finding that interview again, so here's Jason's post also confirming it

 

[MasterCornholio]

and nothing else before that?

but would be the poorest marketing campaign for a Sony first party

Expect multiple videos as well. Not to mention they might make a faceplate for it.

 

[RoadHazard]

Much concern.

 

[Zeroing]

What you prefer? starfield marketing “people will lose their minds?”

I rather they keep focusing on the game and show it when it’s ready.

 

[adamsapple]

Todd said it himself but i'm not going to bother finding that interview again, so here's Jason's post also confirming it

I think this is the quote you're looking for

“But this one, to be honest, we had a lot of difficulties during development and sometimes those difficulties do show up on the screen. You never want them to. We grew the studio, we’re four different studios now in North America, the one in Rockville, Austin, Dallas, and Montreal, and this was a game that really took a ton of people across those four studios coming together to make work. And we knew launch was just going to be the beginning. We’re really excited that the game actually did very, very well.”

That's just a studio head not wanting to throw any of their studios under the bus.

But if you want a confirmation, no place better to go than No Clip's documentary which lays it out as plain as possible.





Battlecry Studios was rechristened to Bethesda Austin and tasked with retrofitting multiplayer into the Fallout 4 engine/tech.

They worked over the tech Bethesda MD used for FO4.

Meanwhile main BSG MD was helping create the world and lore for the game.

 

[NewYork214]

I honestly don't want anymore info on game. Getting it no matter what. Not concerned at all on the quality of it. Just the release date

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

I think this is the quote you're looking for



That's just a studio head not wanting to throw any of their studios under the bus.

But if you want a confirmation, no place better to go than No Clip's documentary which lays it out as plain as possible.





Battlecry Studios was rechristened to Bethesda Austin and tasked with retrofitting multiplayer into the Fallout 4 engine/tech.

They worked over the tech Bethesda MD used for FO4.

Meanwhile main BSG MD was helping create the world and lore for the game.

They were responsible for getting the online tech sorted. They were not the lead devs for the game. That's the point

 

[Fredrik]

Yeah, that's the standard production pipeline for Bethesda. You'll also have a group that's gone directly to ES6 for pre-production when they launched 76

Maryland go from one big project to the next but the Austin team came in and did the heavy lifting for FO76 and that wasn’t standard. Starfield was already out of pre-production and in a playable state in 2018, active development started after FO4 in 2015.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

Maryland go from one big project to the next but the Austin team came in and did the heavy lifting for FO76 and that wasn’t standard. Starfield was already out of pre-production and in a playable state in 2018, active development started after FO4 in 2015.

Pre-production for Starfield ended when 76 was released or just shorrly before.

 

[ultrazilla]

This one is getting delayed until 2023. No doubt about it.

 

[adamsapple]

They were responsible for getting the online tech sorted. They were not the lead devs for the game. That's the point

I don't know what/how you're qualifying lead devs as here, but they are the studio which took the FO4 engine and retrofitted it for multiplayer, so the game development was primarily on them.

So, yes, when people say FO 76 was not the same team that's making Starfield, they're right.

 

[Shmunter]

Would be nice if they spent an extra year branching off a proper ps5 version instead of pure cross gen

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

I don't know what/how you're qualifying lead devs as here, but they are the studio which took the FO4 engine and retrofitted it for multiplayer, so the game development was primarily on them.

The one's who lead the development of the game? Unless you think engineers are lead devs

So, yes, when people say FO 76 was not the same team that's making Starfield, they're right.

No, they're wrong.

 

[adamsapple]

No, they're wrong.

I literally linked you to a documentary where they say the Austin studio was put in charge of retrofitting MP into the single player Fallout 4 engine.

But if you're hellbent on believing what you want to, you go girl.