GHG
Gold Member
I'm referring to where he said he tried dolby on PC and wasn't impressed., if using a headset that's the expected result.
I don't use a headset, I have a 7.1.2 system that I use.
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VRR support rolling out this week for PS5
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I'm referring to where he said he tried dolby on PC and wasn't impressed., if using a headset that's the expected result.
I don't use a headset, I have a 7.1.2 system that I use.
Hezekiah
Banned
Stable games with locked frame rates will have dips that are virtually indistinguishable to the human eye, i.e. a very occassional drop to 58 or 59 FPS.
thatJohann
Member
Also horizon forbidden west does not work with VRR even if you enable setting to apply VRR universally to unsupported games. It must have a flag to bypass it. Lame.
When PS5 is on or off?
A lot of games have their own 3d audio software on them, so adding sonys 3d audio on top only clashes with it
With horizon, a first party game, it sounds fine, just nothing mind bending
Ive heard great things about demons souls and returnal, but i dont have those games
I also play a lot of shooters so its no fun to constantly turn on and off the 3d audio per game
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
you do know how the tech works right?
Do you consider 30 FPS smooth, or 40 FPS smooth, or 60 FPS smooth if there is no frame pacing issues and its updating perfectly per second?
So VRR literally updates the frames perfectly in sync per second. If it fluctuates it varies the refresh rate so it updates perfectly within a second. Its entire purpose is to make the frames update smoothly and eliminate tearing. If its working correctly its nothing but smooth.
Now if you think 30 FPS is a juddery mess and you cant play a game at anything under 60FPS then thats a different conversation entirely lol.
Anchovie123
Member
Funny, I remember people shitting on this game and all its "unnecessary modes" future proofing and more options is always a good thing!
Topher
Gold Member
VRR isn't going to smooth out drops that large though. I've been using it on PC for quite some time and if frames drop that far it will be quite noticeable.
nominedomine
Banned
Paying for a Dolby Atmos license is the best deal in gaming. I'm just looking for a Dolby Atmos headset that supports AA batteries and I'm set for this entire gen.
As for Dolby Vision what's even the point of a nextgen console without it? Essential feature.
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Hezekiah
Banned
Don't forget Machine Learning.
And make sure to check Colt Eastwood's Twitter page for any other tech that might have been missed.
rofif
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thatJohann
Member
Lego Star Wars Skywalker saga is also much better with no screen tearing although I did notice a section where fps dropped below 40fps for a moment. That game is terribly optimized tho. Needs a patch badly.
Hezekiah
Banned
Are you being serious, or are you and Riky still trying to score points while an exclusive feature on your 'check-list' has been taken away?
PS5 update brings VRR support to 14 games this week, more to follow
Call of Duty, Deathloop and 13 others either sync refresh rate, or will soonwww.polygon.com
Not sure why it seems to be on a game by game basis but it's always better to get more features even when they take longer to get. Odd that Elden Ring might not get the patch initially.
azertydu91
Hard to Kill
Weird I just did that and it worked.
vaibhavpisal
Member
While playing GOTG, I am noticing it's always smooth but once or twice occassional hitch here and there.
Still find it superior to 30 locked which always look a bit slide show ish.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Well if it instantly dropped from 60 to 40 then yeah I can see you noticing it, but in reality it usually fluctuates and makes it much harder to spot.
I've had excellent experiences with it on XBOX. My PC has a monitor with the G Sync module so that is even better, but Elden ring etc on XBOX is super smooth with VRR. I need to try Guardians on Xbox but I started it on PC.
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Insane Metal
Gold Member
Fucking finally.
vaibhavpisal
Member
It's about 5 yrs late and still doesn't support Freesync.
Hmm ..
Quiet a bit more catching up to do I guess.
JackMcGunns
Member
I'm sorry, but if you're a gamer, this isn't boring at all. Might as well call SSD speeds, Zen 2/RDNA 2 and this whole generation boring as well. VRR is part of next gen.
Topher
Gold Member
Drops that far are usually not gradual but I get what you are saying. Removing the judder of a drop of a few frames is ideal.
nominedomine
Banned
Nah, Sony is about to launch a DualSense revision that removes haptic feedback and replace rechargeable batteries with AA batteries. Selling games makes some money but selling the AA batteries that you need to play those games is where they get you hooked for life.
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omegasc
Member
I just tried it on Tales of Arise Graphics mode, and it is a lot better in the area I tested. It's a good title on PS5 to use for testing how much difference VRR can make. From noticeable 'choppiness' of the fluctuating frames to a smoother experience. From this test I would prefer Graphics mode to Performance mode. I guess 'anything' over 40fps on my TV (LG C9) is acceptable.
Could not yet test PS4 games, as I could not remember any game in my library with unlocked framerates that the PS5 can't push to 60... (I admit I didn't try that hard)
Miles Morales and Spider-Man I stay with Performance RT though, I noticed quite the difference. I guess the Performance modes are now completely unlocked on VRR capable TVs so it is getting past 60? I forgot to pop up the TV menu with the actual hz in use.
Could not yet test PS4 games, as I could not remember any game in my library with unlocked framerates that the PS5 can't push to 60... (I admit I didn't try that hard
)Miles Morales and Spider-Man I stay with Performance RT though, I noticed quite the difference. I guess the Performance modes are now completely unlocked on VRR capable TVs so it is getting past 60? I forgot to pop up the TV menu with the actual hz in use.
Hezekiah
Banned
Five years late - yes because there were so many VRR-supporting TV owners in 2017.
It's idiotic posts like this which take focus away from the feature itself.
Tchu-Espresso
likes mayo on everthing and can't dance
Mashing the green button on my LG CX still shows Miles Morales as 120Hz FIXED.
What am I doing wrong?
Edit: unplugged the cable and now get a “your tv doesn’t support VRR” message.
What am I doing wrong?
Edit: unplugged the cable and now get a “your tv doesn’t support VRR” message.
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Tiago Rodrigues
Member
What do you mean it's being done on a game by game basis?PS5 update brings VRR support to 14 games this week, more to follow
Call of Duty, Deathloop and 13 others either sync refresh rate, or will soon
Not sure why it seems to be on a game by game basis but it's always better to get more features even when they take longer to get. Odd that Elden Ring might not get the patch initially.
Some games are getting updates but they added 40fps modes and stuff like that, like the Insomniac games.
Elden Ring didn't get an update and plenty of people are saying it's playing much better, specially the Performance Modes.
It's like some of you guys want PS5 to not have this working feature at this point...
Hezekiah
Banned
I think some people have a totally skewed view of what it actually does and to what extent, some even expecting some kind of 'performance boost'.
I already stated this multiple times. If you're sensitive to framerate drops you will still notice them but it means you won't get judder and tearing associated with those drops without VRR.
It's a nice fallback to have where the devs have fucked up (particularly because on console you can't change the settings until you get a satisfactory result) but games locked to a target framerate is a far superior experience.
vaibhavpisal
Member
I mentioned Freesync, that's how I use said feature.
Certainly there were more Freesync monitors back then, than hdmi 2.1 TVs we have now.
Sure you are fine with whatever is offered, doesn't mean everyone will be happy with it.
Arioco
Member
Yes, it should. Samsung TVs support VRR since 2018, which means VRR is supported on TVs that lack HDMI 2.1 ports (for example my Q7, which has only 4 HDMI 2.0 ports).
So if your TV doesn't support it through the 2.0 ports is just because Samsung didn't wanted them to, but HDMI 2.1 is not a requirement for VRR.
GHG
Gold Member
My view is that over 60 is smooth, anything else is very much perceptible, even more so if it's variable. Just because screen tearing and judder are eliminated it doesn't make those 40fos moments look and feel like 60fps. Far from it.
That's not to say I won't play certain games in certain circumstances under 60fps (e.g. I locked Cyberpunk 2077 to 30fps on my PC at release so that I could play it with ray tracing fully enabled - the improvement in atmosphere was worth it for me. The IQ difference in horizon Forbidden West was also substantial enough for me to settle on the 30fps mode), but generally speaking I'm looking to get things over 60 where possible.
It's also with noting that the percentage differences between the highs and lows are what make the difference in perceptible smoothness, even with VRR enabled. To use your example, if a game is bouncing around between 40-60fps then the first thing I'm doing is trying to get those lows up in to the 50's. If that's impossible then I'll just say fuck it and pump the settings/resolution further to get the highs down close to the lows. If under 60fps then the tighter the fps range the better.
Some people have been trying really hard to overstate what this feature does. That's all I'll say.
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Tchu-Espresso
likes mayo on everthing and can't dance
LG CX saying VRR not supported. Why?
A2una1
Member
Or, like me, you might have disabled VRR in Game Optimiser. If you own a LG TV that is
Tchu-Espresso
likes mayo on everthing and can't dance
Game Optimiser? That’s only models starting from the C1 right?Or, like me, you might have disabled VRR in Game Optimiser. If you own a LG TV that is
Venuspower
Member
Has anyone here take a look into the video information on PS5?
My PS5 says that the VRR Range of the PS5 is between 48 Hz and 120 Hz:
Since the LG C9 has a VRR Range of 40 - 120 it looks like PS5 is actually limited to 48 - 120 Hz.
My PS5 says that the VRR Range of the PS5 is between 48 Hz and 120 Hz:
Since the LG C9 has a VRR Range of 40 - 120 it looks like PS5 is actually limited to 48 - 120 Hz.
vaibhavpisal
Member
Has anyone here take a look into the video information on PS5?
My PS5 says that the VRR Range of the PS5 is between 48 Hz and 120 Hz:
Since the LG C9 has a VRR Range of 40 - 120 it looks like PS5 is actually limited to 48 - 120 Hz.
It will be 48-120 hz.
With some nicer tvs you get LFC which could go down to 20 hz.
I suppose PS5 should resort to that below 48 Hz.
SLB1904
Banned
Yeah don't know mate. Maybe is the games you ate playing. I haven't play horizon so don't know for sure. The games needs to made using the tempest like returnal for example
Dust-by-Monday
Member
Anyone get VRR working on HDMI 2.0 yet?
Jayjayhd34
Member
LG CX saying VRR not supported. Why?
You using hdmi 2.1 cable .
omegasc
Member
check the HDMI ULTRA HD Deep Color setting, it needs to be ON, as well as Instant Game Response.LG CX saying VRR not supported. Why?
right, and thats a pain in the butt to figure out which games are made for it and which are not. From what I hear, Returnal and Demons soul sound phenomenal, but i dont have nor care about those games. For the rest of the games not optimized for it, it all sounds muffled, or just standard, nothing special (with 3d audio on). Turning it off, brings back a normal sounding audio
So if I am not playing those 1-2 games, then I might as well just have it off right? If I ever end up buying a game known for the amazing 3d audio, then i guess ill turn it on for that game
The thing I dont get is, on xbox, i have Dolby atmos on for everything, and it all sounds phenomenal.
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not supported for 2.0
Venuspower
Member
But that does not make sense unless the PS5 itself is limited to 48 Hz. All 2019 LG OLEDs have a VRR Range from 40 - 120 Hz. Usually that is what the PS5 should detect because it is what is reported in the EDID of the TV. Since this is not the case the 48 Hz limit should come from the PS5.
LFC is a complete different story. Will be interesting to see, if PS5 does have support for LFC. Would be good for TVs that does not ship with LFC.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
Not true HDMI 2.0 supports VRR just up to 60 HZ as like the Xbox One X
2021 Samsung QE55Q80A here, PS5 says it’s supported, have had no issues with the Series X VRR, but it will not kick in on PS5, I have swapped the PS5 and X’s hdmi ports and nothing changes, Series X is working on any input, the tv shows hdmi 4 as the gaming input so I assume this should be the best one, I have turned the tv off at the mains, the PS5, any other ideas.
SamaelSavage
Banned
Can someone check Bloodborne with VRR?
omegasc
Member
Try the other 3D profile settings. I was on the default one but it seems one down is the best for me. Also, did you try other EQ settings? Default one is 'meh'. I Googled one recommended setting and adjusted from there. Made quite de difference, and the Pulse does a decent job. Still, I mostly use an Arctis Pro Wireless and it is so much better, cleaner sound.
Also, GT7 sounds great.
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yeah messing with profile helps, and messing with EQ helps a lot too, I have a EQ for footsteps. But i play a lot of apex, and it just factually sounds better with the 3d audio off....because apex own 3d audio is better, if you add it on top, it just creates a muffled sound, but i think thats because its competing with another. Im not complaining about the pulse, just that turning on the 3D audio options on the ps5 settings do nothing for me, at least for the games i play
but thats my whole point, its looking to me like for most games its better off
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mitchman
Gold Member
The console "calls home" at regular intervals, and hence can receive updated settings. Such as VRR, the UI has been there for some time, now they flip the switch to enable it. They can also disable it the same way if the shit hits the fan.