HeisenbergFX4
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Its in the US silly question did you restart the console?
Its not an update it just appeared for me
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VRR support rolling out this week for PS5
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Its not an update it just appeared for me
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Yeah, just made the edit a second after you quoted me.
EDIT: Had to restart the system. And then wait a few seconds for the update to apply. The downloads notification box showed an update was installed but i never saw it download. Weird. The vrr option didnt show up right away either.
omegasc
Member
yeah it needs either a restart or you can go to System Feature Updates, like for updating the Controller.
01011001
Banned
that's sadly common among PC monitors, my Dell also doesn't support it. that one has such an old HDMI chip it doesn't even support 120hz over HDMI
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Low Moral Fibre
Member
Spider-Man Remastered runs at 80-100 FPS in performance RT at least when you are just messing around outside of combat. Pretty crazy.
MM still drops below 60 FPS pretty often but you wouldn't tell without a FPS readout.
MM still drops below 60 FPS pretty often but you wouldn't tell without a FPS readout.
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
I somewhat agree and disagree with you at the same time, with an example.
I'm really digging Tormented Souls right now, it's made by a very small team and we shouldn't expect the same kind of optimization effort that an Insomniac or a Coalition would do.
I played through the entire game with Freesync, as I have it on default, so to my eyes it felt like a super smooth go through and through.
But as an experiment I started the game again to replay the opening areas in the first few minutes with Freesync on/off.
Captured off-screen cause native capture won't show it. Apologies for my shitty phone camera.
Video 1 - FS On:
Video 2- FS Off:
The big painting on the right side of the wall is the easiest place to see, in the FS On video it just looks normal, like it should.
In the FS Off video, you can notice a very visible judder, if it's this noticeable on a shitty off-screen, you can probably imagine it's a little more so when you're actually playing.
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My whole point with this rant of a post is that Freesync, the technology, has some very tangible benefits in a lot of use cases and we shouldn't dismiss it. Of course 100% locked native optimization will always be preferred, but that's not possible in all cases to the same extent.
KURDISTAN YPG
Member
Excuse my ignorance, but will this help with online ping?
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
No, that's a whole another thing unfortunately.
Lethal01
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01011001
Banned
Spider-Man now runs at ~90fps with fluctuations of about 10fps up and down from that. that is superior than any stable 60fps framerate when using VRR
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Look at the example videos I posted above, VRR is great even for 60hz games that don't quite meet the target all the time.
Perceptibly you cannot tell a difference in smoothness and most importantly there's no more visible judder.
01011001
Banned
yes but that was his argument that it's only a crutch, which it isn't, it can elevate 60fps games that leave enough GPU resources on the table to reach 90fps or even higher, and 90fps is where stuff really starts to feel super smooth.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Oh yeah, Dying Light 2 does that and easily reaches 90~100 FPS when the system detects VRR and unlocks the frame rate.
In an ideal world all games should do that, but unfortunately I think that's only gonna be possible on cross-gen or ports of last gen games where there's enough head room. I don't see that happening for dedicated next-gen games.
Anchovie123
Member
Seems to run anywhere from 80-100fps on performance RT during city traversal. I'm actually surprised at just how much overhead there was here wow. I wish we could know exactly what resolution its running at.
Low Moral Fibre
Member
Sorry Spider-Man 40fps mode but Performance RT is still where it's at. I guess to protect against drops below 60fps they had to leave a ton of FPS on the table so most of the time it's above 80fps now.
OMG!
VRR only works on patched PS5 games in spite of the vrr toggle in the system menu.
Video proof!
This is a huge fail on Sony's end. No wonder they took so long to enable VRR on playstation. It's crap compared to VRR on Xbox
VRR only works on patched PS5 games in spite of the vrr toggle in the system menu.
Video proof!
This is a huge fail on Sony's end. No wonder they took so long to enable VRR on playstation. It's crap compared to VRR on Xbox
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Venuspower
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Unfortunately, this is not strange. PS5 simply does not support FreeSync via HDMI. PS5 only has support for HDMI Forum VRR. While both standards are based on the same specification, both are advertised differently in the EDID. This is why you are not able to use VRR on your monitor.
01011001
Banned
OMG!
VRR only works on patched PS5 games in spite of the vrr toggle in the system menu.
Video proof!
This is a huge fail on Sony's end. No wonder they took so long to bring playstation. It's crap compared to VRR on Xbox
to be fair there are games on Xbox that also don't support VRR, it's usually an issue with the game's vsync that blocks VRR.
games on Xbox that have issues are WatchDogs Legion in 60hz output (works at 120hz), Fortnite, Aragami 2 and some others I can't remember from the top of my head
Venuspower
Member
I have seen a few people where VRR worked just fine with Elden Ring.
€: Where VRR does not seem to work are 30 FPS games.
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omegasc
Member
OMG!
VRR only works on patched PS5 games in spite of the vrr toggle in the system menu.
Video proof!
This is a huge fail on Sony's end. No wonder they took so long to enable VRR on playstation. It's crap compared to VRR on Xbox
if the game is locked to a framerate it needs a patch, as was the case with Dying Light 2 on Xbox.
Horizon has locks to 30 and 60 depending on the selected mode. It does not auto-unlock framerates and it is on the dev to chose.
I can see Guerrilla adding a VRR option soon.
I tested Elden Ring, Tales of Arise and it worked on both.
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Mr Moose
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Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart is getting an update, not sure if it'll be the same as Spider-Man though.
OMG!
VRR only works on patched PS5 games in spite of the vrr toggle in the system menu.
Video proof!
This is a huge fail on Sony's end. No wonder they took so long to enable VRR on playstation. It's crap compared to VRR on Xbox
This you?
So therefor stuck without VRR on PS5 console
kyliethicc
Member
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Right. VRR does not unlock a games frame rate, to do that there needs to be a patch.
Otherwise VRR will just make sure the drops from the games current 60hz profile are less perceptible.
Deathloop has an ultra performance mode now
Preparing for that Definitive Xbox version with FSR 2.0 later this year
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Low Moral Fibre
Member
I wish I could delete the Spider-Man games from my memory and play them again at 80-100 FPS as it feels so so right.
Mr Moose
Member
I'm curious about Destiny 2.Deathloop has an ultra performance mode now
rofif
Banned
FINALLY.
So much of Elden Ring is running in top 50s and it just stutters.
But now it is buttery smooth. Best version of the game.
As you can see, it is still full RGB since ps5 recognized it's... a 60hz game ? SO it's using vrr with 60hz signal ?
I wish that was a choice for those 120hz games. Interesting
So much of Elden Ring is running in top 50s and it just stutters.
But now it is buttery smooth. Best version of the game.
As you can see, it is still full RGB since ps5 recognized it's... a 60hz game ? SO it's using vrr with 60hz signal ?
I wish that was a choice for those 120hz games. Interesting
01011001
Banned
FINALLY.
So much of Elden Ring is running in top 50s and it just stutters.
But now it is buttery smooth. Best version of the game.
As you can see, it is still full RGB since ps5 recognized it's... a 60hz game ? SO it's using vrr with 60hz signal ?
I wish that was a choice for those 120hz games. Interesting
the issue at 60hz tho can be that Elden Ring drops below 48fps and not rarely either, meaning if your TV only goes to 48hz you will still have stutters at 60hz output since low framerate compensation at 60hz only kicks in once you are below 30fps
therefore, for most people 120hz would be more beneficial for Elden Ring as you will definitely feel the drops below 48fps real hard
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Low Moral Fibre
Member
I'm getting the same endorphins as when you upgrade your PC and test old games that now run at a way better framerate. A long time coming but a beautiful update.
mitchman
Gold Member
FreeSync is not VRR.
Riky
$MSFT
Campaign is still at 60hz, I've just tested it.
01011001
Banned
yes it is. I think what you mean to say is FreeSync isn't "HDMI Forum VRR"
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Finally can play Elden Ring again. Decided to stop playing it a month ago to wait for the VRR update.FINALLY.
So much of Elden Ring is running in top 50s and it just stutters.
But now it is buttery smooth. Best version of the game.
As you can see, it is still full RGB since ps5 recognized it's... a 60hz game ? SO it's using vrr with 60hz signal ?
I wish that was a choice for those 120hz games. Interesting
Are you seriously comparing 1 or 2 broken games that dont support vrr properly on Xbox to the THOUSANDS of games on PlayStation where VRR doesn't work unless patched?
Please stop!
thebigmanjosh
Member
Not sure if this has happened to anyone else, but VRR didn't show up on my system and I got an error when selecting "Feature Update". Had to update the software in safe mode, then update features for it to work.
I've been in the software betas so maybe it has something to do with that.
I've been in the software betas so maybe it has something to do with that.
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mitchman
Gold Member
Oh, I think you need to correct every post in this thread now.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
OMG!
VRR only works on patched PS5 games in spite of the vrr toggle in the system menu.
Video proof!
This is a huge fail on Sony's end. No wonder they took so long to enable VRR on playstation. It's crap compared to VRR on Xbox
VRR on my PS5 only supports 48-120 fps. So its possible this is just an issue with Horizon.
Have we confirmed if this works in GT7? One game isnt proof. Could just be that GG messed up.
EDIT: Looks like Elden Rings works without the patch in 60 hz mode.
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Mr Moose
Member
When was the last update for it? I think I deleted the game lol.
Might not have received an update yet:
01011001
Banned
do we know that thousands of games don't work? haven't watched what you linked yet as I'm typing on my phone and aren't in the mood to watch that right now
01011001
Banned
well, VRR is the universal term, FreeSync is one form of VRR, so no I don't since HDMI Forum VRR is also a form of VRR. as long as people don't use VRR as specifically meaning HDMI Forum VRR in a way that can be misleading lol
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Freesync is AMD's version of VRR, Variable Refresh Rate.
Umm, yeah, VRR/FS/GSync should work on 60hz games as well, I don't see any reason why it wouldn't.
sankt-Antonio
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How’s Resident Evil 7 ? It’s a game I’ve noticed slowdowns when RT and 60fps settings are used.
Why is this game working with VRR but not other 60hz games like horizon forbidden west?FINALLY.
So much of Elden Ring is running in top 50s and it just stutters.
But now it is buttery smooth. Best version of the game.
As you can see, it is still full RGB since ps5 recognized it's... a 60hz game ? SO it's using vrr with 60hz signal ?
I wish that was a choice for those 120hz games. Interesting
Was there a VRR patch update for it or something ?
It seems like it from the video because he said vrr wsnt working in 60hz games he tested, but maybe he screwed something on his end.
I'll just wait for a second opinion or confirmation from digital foundry
Tiago Rodrigues
Member
OMG!
VRR only works on patched PS5 games in spite of the vrr toggle in the system menu.
Video proof!
This is a huge fail on Sony's end. No wonder they took so long to enable VRR on playstation. It's crap compared to VRR on Xbox
Your post reads like a tabloid. "omg!!" "video proof!!!"
All that and you're still not right. Plenty of games have VRR enabled and got no updates, lmao.
But that last sentence was rather transparent anyway...