PropellerEar
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Very impressive.
Very impressive.
Gamers love good games.
Most big publishers on PC disagree as they keep investing on DRM. What is a fact is how DRM has no negative impact on sales (not even online only has that effect, as shown by how Blizzard does it).
A big part of GaaS taking over PC is piracy and now this will influence the direction PlayStation will move towards. Sad.
The idea that people pirating wouldn't buy the game is bullshit, given that even games that require expensive hardware to run are still pirated just as much. Sony is handling their releases on PC pretty poorly in that regard and it will likely have a negative impact on their willingness to invest in single player games in the long run.
Piracy is a temporary problem, as the bulk of the money, specially in the case of single player games, is made close to release. Denuvo will usually delay piracy for many months and can be removed once it is beat by crackers.
No most of them probably got cheap PS4s(because PC gamers are cheap apparently?) and played them already because they aren't fanboys like you. Most PC sells will be double dipping.They will get a lot more sales on PC. Good stuff. Sony finally sees the light. We PC gamers are a patient bunch and I'm sure many of us have been waiting for this. It was only ever a matter of time.
Yeah this guys are hilarious. Thinking that people will wait 2 years to play the games they want lolNo most of them probably got cheap PS4s(because PC gamers are cheap apparently?) and played them already because they aren't fanboys like you. Most PC sells will be double dipping.
They will get a lot more sales on PC. Good stuff. Sony finally sees the light. We PC gamers are a patient bunch and I'm sure many of us have been waiting for this. It was only ever a matter of time.
The sequel is going to be explosive.Certainly gonna add a few million to that number on PC. Insomniac struck a gold vein that is gonna be rich for years to come.
Poor Niche-Man.Wait till the huge 500k extra sales come from PC.
You're a PS gamer so you don't count. I'm talking about PC gamers. We are patient. We will wait. Look at sales of GOW, for example. We waited years in lieu of buying a PS4 to play it. We will do it time and time again. So you speak for yourself, as a PS gamer.Sony saw "the light" two years ago when they said they were going to start putting games on PC. And speak for yourself on the waiting bit. I'm a PC gamer as well, but I'm not waiting around for PlayStation games to come to PC. PlayStation games are nearly always a day one purchase for me. And frankly, I can see more PC gamer buying PlayStation consoles when the next Spider-man launches instead of waiting for the port. That's just how good these games are.
Bullshit. Where are you pulling that stat that most PC "sells" are double dipping? That is absolutely wrong. GTFO with your made up stats.No most of them probably got cheap PS4s(because PC gamers are cheap apparently?) and played them already because they aren't fanboys like you. Most PC sells will be double dipping.
You're a PS gamer so you don't count. I'm talking about PC gamers. We are patient. We will wait. Look at sales of GOW, for example. We waited years in lieu of buying a PS4 to play it. We will do it time and time again. So you speak for yourself, as a PS gamer.
There's a slight difference here...Activision Spiderman didn't have the hype for Marvel Cinematic Universe behind.I think its more because its such a good game too. The Activision spider-man games didn't sell that well.
There's a slight difference here...Activision Spiderman didn't have the hype for Marvel Cinematic Universe behind.
No but they had the Raimi movies which were pretty damn big as wellThere's a slight difference here...Activision Spiderman didn't have the hype for Marvel Cinematic Universe behind.
Probably, but also different tech available...Now with some nice cutscenes you can impress anyone.That is true, but the games were not near the quality of Insomniac's Spider-man.
Yea, but MCU Spiderman (3 movies) sold about the same as the other 5 before cumulatedNo but they had the Raimi movies which were pretty damn big as well
Probably, but also different tech available...Now with some nice cutscenes you can impress anyone.
Building good-will first, and when you're releasing 4+ year old games, the break-even point is really low.Makes me wonder why Sony isn't putting Denuvo on their games given that they are single player only and easy targets for piracy.
That's all it needs to be - full price sales are very front-loaded across pretty much every game/genre.Denovo is only a temporary measure at best.
That 'negligible at best' cuts both ways - brand damage even in the worst fallout cases has barely registered on bottom-line, no matter what people online tell themselves.And at worst causes brand damage and is harmful to your customers experience.
GaaS started 20 years ago in markets where consoles had negative tie-ratios and PC was at best, unviable as a platform - and turned the game-industry from being small to non-existent into highly profitable practically overnight - and within 10 years, many of those markets were outperforming some of the biggest Western territories for revenues.As for GaaS, even if we assume that you're right that DRM is efficient, don't you think that the prevalence of GaaS has more to do with the fact that it makes games MUCH more profitable than most traditional single player games have any chance of being?
Dunno about first day, but FFVII Remake was cracked very fast, and I believe that one had Denuvo.That's all it needs to be - full price sales are very front-loaded across pretty much every game/genre.
Once you reach deep-discounts, piracy becomes increasingly less attractive as well.
I'm shocked about that one lol I really thought it would sell under as some side game or something, but that game is moving just as much units. Insomniac + Sony is going to be out here breaking all sorts of fucking records with Spiderman 2 and Wolverine lol
I'm happy this game is moving gangbusters and I hope that publishers take note.
Putting a fucking IP that is popular in game IS NOT FUCKING ENOUGH. The game MUST BE GOOD, it must be by developers that can...get this, MAKE GAMES lol We've seen so many fucking Transformer type, Fast And Furious type games its not even funny and seeing them flop got lots of us just believing those IP can't work as games, when lazy, bad development might have more to do with those poor sales. Look at all the hype behind that Harry Potter RPG coming out, its not solely just cause its in that universe, its about WHO is making it too and we believe it will be a quality game. If those things don't align, of course those games would flop and continue to do so. Maybe the likes of EA, Activision etc will take those licenses more seriously seeing this.
You're a PS gamer so you don't count. I'm talking about PC gamers. We are patient. We will wait. Look at sales of GOW, for example. We waited years in lieu of buying a PS4 to play it. We will do it time and time again. So you speak for yourself, as a PS gamer.
That actually makes a lot of sense, I believe they were just being cautious. I don't think Sony has revealed their entire PC strategy yet, PC is going to be key for Sony's success in markets like China.Building good-will first, and when you're releasing 4+ year old games, the break-even point is really low.
Watch that song&tune change if the day-1 people have been clamoring for happens.
That's all it needs to be - full price sales are very front-loaded across pretty much every game/genre.
Once you reach deep-discounts, piracy becomes increasingly less attractive as well.
You make up shit and I make up shit. Guess you don't like the taste of your own medicine.Bullshit. Where are you pulling that stat that most PC "sells" are double dipping? That is absolutely wrong. GTFO with your made up stats.
If Sony first party games are such big draws for the PC crowd, they would had all converted to PS systems during the past 20 years.Sony saw "the light" two years ago when they said they were going to start putting games on PC. And speak for yourself on the waiting bit. I'm a PC gamer as well, but I'm not waiting around for PlayStation games to come to PC. PlayStation games are nearly always a day one purchase for me. And frankly, I can see more PC gamer buying PlayStation consoles when the next Spider-man launches instead of waiting for the port. That's just how good these games are.
There’s this thing called owning multiple systems.If Sony first party games are such big draws for the PC crowd, they would had all converted to PS systems during the past 20 years.
The Avengers failure and the mild reception of Guardians of the Galaxy should be proof enough that the popularity of the MCU has nothing to do with the game’s success.There's a slight difference here...Activision Spiderman didn't have the hype for Marvel Cinematic Universe behind.
Depends which side of the narrative you're on. One side says exclusives draw in gamers. Yet the PC crowd with their uber rigs dont seem to care about consoles. Then if you release too many games on PC, the console crowd will shift over and go PC. Now youre bringing up option #3 which is rare: console/PC combo.There’s this thing called owning multiple systems.
Depends which side of the narrative you're on. One side says exclusives draw in gamers. Yet the PC crowd with their uber rigs dont seem to care about consoles. Then if you release too many games on PC, the console crowd will shift over and go PC. Now youre bringing up option #3 which is rare: console/PC combo.
If Sony first party games are such big draws for the PC crowd, they would had all converted to PS systems during the past 20 years.
Depends which side of the narrative you're on. One side says exclusives draw in gamers. Yet the PC crowd with their uber rigs dont seem to care about consoles. Then if you release too many games on PC, the console crowd will shift over and go PC. Now youre bringing up option #3 which is rare: console/PC combo.
I didn’t mean rare in reality. I game on PC too with my low end laptop.Not sure what you read. I didn't say Sony first party games were "big draws" for the PC crowd. I said these games coming to PC could entice PC gamers to buy PlayStation instead of waiting for ports. How that translates to something 20 years ago, I have no idea.
Great games draw in gamers, exclusive or not. You have a group of PC gamers who don't care about consoles and you have a group of console gamers who don't care about PC. Then you have those of us who game on both. And no, I don't think we are nearly as rare as you suggest. Frankly, I think you are far too hung up on the "narratives" of the "sides".
I didn’t mean rare in reality. I game on PC too with my low end laptop.
I meant rare as an option #3 narrative on forums.
Frankly, I think you are far too hung up on the "narratives" of the "sides".
Probably, but also different tech available...Now with some nice cutscenes you can impress anyone.
Yea, but MCU Spiderman (3 movies) sold about the same as the other 5 before cumulated
Spiderman is a lot more present in the pop-culture now than was before and thats due to MCU and Insomniac's SP benefit from that.