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[Philfrag]

They never showed or suggested this was a thing in the game

They didn't show it. But 13 minutes into the showcase Todd says it. He says you can land anywhere on the planet then goes onto say you can land on any planet in that system, then continues by saying you can do the same in all 100 systems in the game with over 1000 planets 'all open for you to explore'. How the hell did you miss that?

 

[Shmunter]

Mere mention of Horizon and L from Turok made fanboys harass him and hence the tweet was deleted



Some of you need to take a look

What’s going on?

 

[Mephisto40]

They didn't show it. But 13 minutes into the showcase Todd says it. He says you can land anywhere on the planet then goes onto say you can land on any planet in that system, then continues by saying you can do the same in all 100 systems in the game with over 1000 planets 'all open for you to explore'. How the hell did you miss that?

He never says you can land anywhere on the planet

 

[treemk]

Looks awesome, it will be interesting to see how the RPG mechanics play out and how they try to make 1000s or worlds feel unique. Like all Bethesda games I'm sure it will be best played on PC with the inevitable unofficial patch.

 

[yamaci17]

Looks awesome, it will be interesting to see how the RPG mechanics play out and how they try to make 1000s or worlds feel unique. Like all Bethesda games I'm sure it will be best played on PC with the inevitable unofficial patch.

i think most of them will be AI generated random stuff. think of Minecraft and its randomly generated biomes.

hand crafted worlds will also be there... of course they will most likely be 5-10 planets at most. 3-5 detailed planets with a hefty size of a city, and 3-5 planets that have detailed outposts/small settlements/colony like with barren lands (but said barren lands might include interesting side content)

other 100+ or 1000+ words... as others said, they will be thematically randomly generated. it will still be fun to explore them, since potentially, that's how our galaxies function. go to something like mars, it would feel like a minecraft generated world lol. of course it would still be fun to explore, but it may get boring quickly fast. take your screenshots, there will be tons of randomly generated caves, mountains etc that will create wonderful landscapes for you to admire. gather specific resources that only exists on the said random generated planet. do not elaborate further, leave, and return to your main quest!

they will also act as eye candies, practically, u can build your outpost to any planet so you will maybe visit 5-15 of them to find the most suitable planet for your own tastes. i think it would be cool to have these planets such as minecraft worlds.

 

[icerock]

What’s going on?

Not much, John setup a poll to ask people opinions on what they think of technical prowess of Starfield. After finishing dead last, warriors got really angry as to why John threw Horizon:Forbidden West in there. It should be "random", so John took it out of poll and added Forza Horizon 5 for a fresh poll. Let's hope it isn't last this time.

 

[captainnapalm]

I mean did anyone think this game was going to be a visual and technical showcase? It's a massive Bethesda RPG. They are famous for putting those concerns more or less last.

What there is though is an incredibly large bump in visual quality by Bethesda RPG standards, which is about as much as you could have hoped for.

 

[EDMIX]

That's right, best temper expectations. Todd always finds a way to sell us features that sound mouth watering and are actually in game but not what we thought they'd be/underwhelming in practice.

Given the way Bethesda games have always worked, their games are designed around loading you into locations that are differently sized when viewed outside and explored inside (ala the Tardis). My guess is the planets you can land on, whether they be all or only some, will be much smaller than they look from space. You'll be loaded into an instanced area, and when you reach the edge of the map you'll loop back around on the opposite side. It will technically be "the whole planet", but different from other space games where the planets are actually planet sized. This will work in line with and perfectly with how they've always handled dungeons/interiors.

Well said.

Agreed completely. I see this more as a way to get from 1 place to another with the occasional ship battle.

So if its like a dungeon type thing where you press land, see a cutscene or something and end up in pre-determined spot, I'm 100% ok with that. So what they are saying as "planets" I think we need to consider that is what they might just be calling a level, dungeon, area etc vs the fucking size of a planet. So with how Fallout and Elder Scrolls works, I'm expecting more of that tbh.

 

[Arcadialane]

Imagine showing this game to someone 30 years ago, watching their head explode, and then telling them that people were shitting all over it. Absolutely wild.

You could show pretty much any game from today to a person 30 years ago and it would blow their mind. What a weird way to try and compliment the game 'Starfield looks kinda amazing if you compare it to 30 years ago' I mean I would hope so. There are legitimate complaints for the game, and the gunplay and ai looks objectively bad when you compare it to other released games, from what we saw.

 

[Philfrag]

He never says you can land anywhere on the planet

'you can also explore anywhere on the planet'. I'll grant you he doesn't say 'land'. But watching what is being shown on the screen as he says that where you have a marker going over the surface of the planet with a land button on the right of the screen I think it is at least safe to say its heavily suggested that this will be a thing.

 

[Snake29]

First, ignore those who do authority speak on the answer to this without citing a source or at least minimum a disclaimer. It's not confirmed until it's confirmed.

With the information we have right now it seems like auto-landing is the more likely option, but with my assumption that there'll be added flexibility in the form of "land anywhere" as I've suggested below.

But again: It could be that this is specifically the map option and that you could still choose to fly down to the surface manually, who knows..

You might want to watch this then:

 

[adamsapple]

Why do so many people want manual landing ?

I just want to press a button and see a 3 second landing cut scene and not have to worry about blowing up the ship when trying to land lol.

 

[MMaRsu]

Why do so many people want manual landing ?

I just want to press a button and see a 3 second landing cut scene and not have to worry about blowing up the ship when trying to land lol.

Bc its cool

 

[Mephisto40]

'you can also explore anywhere on the planet'. I'll grant you he doesn't say 'land'. But watching what is being shown on the screen as he says that where you have a marker going over the surface of the planet with a land button on the right of the screen I think it is at least safe to say its heavily suggested that this will be a thing.

Exploring the planet could be as simple as hitting an "explore planet" button that then shows you landmarks you can land at

Plus it's never implied that you can land on every planet, the vast majority of those planets are going to be gas or other sorts of planets you can't land on. Think about the amount of planets in the solar system you could feasibly land on with a space ship

 

[Kev Kev]

Why do so many people want manual landing ?

I just want to press a button and see a 3 second landing cut scene and not have to worry about blowing up the ship when trying to land lol.

its just another way for people to take a shot at the game.

it would be cool to fly in planet and land where ever you want, but thats the last thing i would want bethesda to focus on. its so unnecessary.

Exploring the planet could be as simple as hitting an "explore planet" button that then shows you landmarks you can land at

Plus it's never implied that you can land on every planet, the vast majority of those planets are going to be gas or other sorts of planets you can't land on

ok enough. stop making statements like your todds boyfriend. youve been doing this the whole thread and you dont know shit, youre just talking out your ass. judge the game based on the facts we know and stop making shit up

 

[Mephisto40]

its just another way for people to take a shot at the game.

it would be cool to fly in planet and land where ever you want, but thats the last thing i would want bethesda to focus on. its so unnecessary.


ok enough. stop making statements like your todds boyfriend. youve been doing this the whole thread and you dont know shit, youre just talking out your ass. judge the game based on the facts we know and stop making shit up

You realise not every planet in the universe is inhabitable dont you?

This isn't making stuff up, it's thinking with your brain, instead of blindly expecting something totally unrealistic

 

[Philfrag]

Exploring the planet could be as simple as hitting an "explore planet" button that then shows you landmarks you can land at

Plus it's never implied that you can land on every planet, the vast majority of those planets are going to be gas or other sorts of planets you can't land on. Think about the amount of planets in the solar system you could feasibly land on with a space ship

I admire your apprehension and weariness of Todds language. This is the correct way to think, especially when dealing with game devs. That said, he is heavily implying that what I said is true. Especially with what is being shown on screen. Even if 20% of those planets are gas giants and cant be landed on it would still be impressive to see. Either way I think his point is you can land on a shit ton of planets. Of course this only means something if these planets are interesting to explore

 

[Topher]

You realise not every planet in the universe is inhabitable dont you?

This isn't making stuff up, it's thinking with your brain, instead of blindly expecting something totally unrealistic

So you think most of these planets are going to be something you can look at from space but not land on? Not sure there is much point in highlighting all these planets if that is all there is to it.

 

[Mephisto40]

I admire your apprehension and weariness of Todds language. This is the correct way to think, especially when dealing with game devs. That said, he is heavily implying that what I said is true. Especially with what is being shown on screen. Even if 20% of those planets are gas giants and cant be landed on it would still be impressive to see. Either way I think his point is you can land on a shit ton of planets. Of course this only means something if these planets are interesting to explore

I appreciate the leveled response

Do not get me wrong, I am looking forward to playing this game, I bought an xbox series S just so I could play this and the next elder scrolls game

I just wish people would be a bit more level headed about their expectations running into this, because if people get their hopes up too much the game is going to bomb at launch, which I don't personally want to see

I think people should be expecting more of a mass effect andromedia than a star citizen from this game in regards to the actual space travel

By all means if im wrong I'll put my hands up, but some of the stuff people are expecting the creation engine to do are just beyond the realms of realism. I will honestly be surprised of they let you walk around on the surface of more than 10 planets in this game

 

[dottme]

Mere mention of Horizon and L from Turok made fanboys harass him and hence the tweet was deleted



Some of you need to take a look

It doesn’t look to be much better for Starfield
my feeling, Elder Scrolls always have shitty character. But at least this time it looks better. The best point was often the forest that looks incredible for their time. But we mainly see rocks in this presentation.
so I’m not surprise the feeling is bad. I do expect however some people to be able to do some great screenshot.

 

[Kev Kev]

You realise not every planet in the universe is inhabitable dont you?

This isn't making stuff up, it's thinking with your brain, instead of blindly expecting something totally unrealistic

i realize the only thing youve done the last 48 hours is post itt and that number of posts is a pretty decent percentage of your total posts on this forum in the last 2 years lol. and just about every single one of those posts are you criticizing starfield with little to no logical reasoning, or based on absolutely made up conjecture by yourself. enjoy my ignore list, troll

 

[johnjohn]

I appreciate the leveled response

Do not get me wrong, I am looking forward to playing this game, I bought an xbox series S just so I could play this and the next elder scrolls game

I just wish people would be a bit more level headed about their expectations running into this, because if people get their hopes up too much the game is going to bomb at launch, which I don't personally want to see

I think people should be expecting more of a mass effect andromedia than a star citizen from this game in regards to the actual space travel

By all means if im wrong I'll put my hands up, but some of the stuff people are expecting the creation engine to do are just beyond the realms of realism. I will honestly be surprised of they let you walk around on the surface of more than 10 planets in this game

Did Mass Effect Andromeda have manual space flight and allow you to land anywhere on any planet? I've never played it. They already showed like 10 planets in the gameplay reveal, do you really think those are the only planets in the game lol?

 

[S0ULZB0URNE]

Mere mention of Horizon and L from Turok made fanboys harass him and hence the tweet was deleted



Some of you need to take a look

Wait people are surprised that SF visuals don't fare well?

 

[niilokin]

Everyone always talking how big BGS game worlds are but the amount of items you can just pick up everywhere and have (derpy) physics... in which other games can you find a potato in an urn in a thousand year old tomb and take it to your crib and adorn the mysterious potato on a make shift altar and worship it everytime you come by from your adventures

 

[yamaci17]

starfield destroys horizon sharpened west lol

irrevelant, uninteresting world of horizon universe will also be left in dust when starfield hits. those two horizon games cant even hit a candle to something like morrowind. devoid of life and soul, that's what guerilla's games amount to. starting with their protagonist with weird blobby face

 

[IntentionalPun]

At it's core this game is still going to be a Bethesda RPG.. you will talk to people, get quests... hopefully be able to kill NPCs to mess up quests... choose sides that effect the story,etc.etc.,etc.

I'm hoping that's like 90% of the focus lol... like camp building was in FO4, but you could all but skip caring about it.

I'm so meh on this space shit lol

 

[TheGodfather07]

people think it doesn tlook good? i think it looks great for a bethesda game. who was expecting rockstar/naughty dog level detail?

 

[sankt-Antonio]

You tell me? youre the one talking bout NPC faces like it the most important thing in the game lol
As long as Starfield NPC don't look like this then it all good for me lol

Again, what are you talking about?
"youre the one talking bout NPC faces like it the most important thing" - where, when?

Its fascinating how much you are projecting...

 

[IntentionalPun]

people think it doesn tlook good? i think it looks great for a bethesda game. who was expecting rockstar/naughty dog level detail?

Literally nobody.

Fans didn't expect it, and don't care that much.

Haters didn't expect it, and just want to hate on Bethesda games.. which has now ramped up after being bought by Xbox.

Online gaming spaces have a sickness where a huge chunk of people wait around for threads on games they have no interest in to shit on them.. there are very few places to discuss videogames where this isn't true.

This forum badly needs a Starfield OT in communities where haters can be run off.

 

[TheGodfather07]

Literally nobody.

Fans didn't expect it, and don't care that much.

Haters didn't expect it, and just want to hate on Bethesda games.. which has now ramped up after being bought by Xbox.

Online gaming spaces have a sickness where a huge chunk of people wait around for threads on games they have no interest in to shit on them.. there are very few places to discuss videogames where this isn't true.

This forum badly needs a Starfield OT in communities where haters can be run off.

true but i can understand people saying it just isnt their thing. even a few xbox centric youtube channels have said the same thing. i just dont get people complaining about graphics or facial animations. bethesda have never been great at those things. just cause its a current gen only game, doesnt mean your gonna get rockstar level detail.

 

[IntentionalPun]

true but i can understand people saying it just isnt their thing. even a few xbox centric youtube channels have said the same thing. i just dont get people complaining about graphics or facial animations. bethesda have never been great at those things.

Oh for sure.. nothing wrong with that, and nothing wrong with constructive criticism of anything surrounding the game/demo.

Most of the shit posted isn't constructive and it isn't meant to be.. it's just probably 30-40+ year old men acting like 4chan trolls.

Most people on this forum probably spend 90+% of their time in threads about games or game platforms they have zero real interest in.

 

[darrylgorn]

If this game strikes the right balance of handcrafted spots with procedural generation then it will be game of the generation.

 

[Philfrag]

I appreciate the leveled response

Do not get me wrong, I am looking forward to playing this game, I bought an xbox series S just so I could play this and the next elder scrolls game

I just wish people would be a bit more level headed about their expectations running into this, because if people get their hopes up too much the game is going to bomb at launch, which I don't personally want to see

I think people should be expecting more of a mass effect andromedia than a star citizen from this game in regards to the actual space travel

By all means if im wrong I'll put my hands up, but some of the stuff people are expecting the creation engine to do are just beyond the realms of realism. I will honestly be surprised of they let you walk around on the surface of more than 10 planets in this game

I agree. I definitely don't think it's going to be anything like Star Citizen. I actually don't think you'll be able to land on planets by yourself. It will most likely be a cutscene transition.

 

[Swift_Star]

Mere mention of Horizon and L from Turok made fanboys harass him and hence the tweet was deleted



Some of you need to take a look

That’s really pathetic.

 

[MadViking]

I rewatched it today more carefully and I like it better now. Gives me good Mass Effect and The Expanse vibes. The graphics look pretty good too, sure maybe they are bit dull at times, but there were some really nice locations in the trailer as well.

 

[Sygma]

Looks like utter shit. Kinda laughable graphically speaking, gameplay was again poor, facial animations beyond outdated and the story seems to be Anthem 2.0 with "space artifacts" inevitably leading to collapsing / rebuilding the galaxy at will zzz

 

[rickybooby87]

Why do so many people want manual landing ?

I just want to press a button and see a 3 second landing cut scene and not have to worry about blowing up the ship when trying to land lol.

Wait, is there only the option for automated landing? Would be cool if you could do a manual landing, adds another layer of gameplay mechanics that would be sorta cool, especially if you are landing on an inhospitable planet that has a jank atmosphere, the turbulence, storms, etc, would be cool to fight through it to land safely. I say both options lol.

 

[Gudji]

Wait people are surprised that SF visuals don't fare well?

Looks incredible especially the animations /s

 

[Connxtion]

A just hope the planets orbit the sun, unlike NMS where it’s just a sky box.

Also, gas giants you could fly into like in star citizen they have a station in low orbit on the gas giants.

Just need to wait and hope stuff clarified, as I would love to be able to fly down to planets and when I can’t be bothered auto land

 

[Kev Kev]

A just hope the planets orbit the sun, unlike NMS where it’s just a sky box.

this would be amazing. and if the day and night cycles were accurate across the planet im not counting on it but that would be epic

 

[Decontamination Silo]

Can't believe we're worried about graphics, manual landing and faces when as far as I can tell they want us to split out time between space mining and shooing up crabs in a single player BRINK spin off?

 

[JONEZZEEonGAF]

Need to see more gameplay it looks ok but nothing it's been hyped up to be. Kinda like a less colourful no man's sky ( apart from that cyberpunk neon city section).

 

[Kssio_Aug]

I wouldn't expect to be able to land in all these planets everywhere. I'm inclined to believe, in that matter, it will work kinda like Mass Effect. Maybe some planets with a more simple geography will allow you to land anywhere to gather resources; but I guess at least the more developed planets will only allow you to stop at certain locations, and some of them might offer quite big areas to explore though. And that's probably for the best... if they tried something like NMS in that regard, they probably woulnd't be able to make high detailed areas. If I'm proven wrong, I'll be happy though.

Realistically, I think the ship will be used to explore the space in search of new planets, and when you find one, it will give the option to land on it. And from that point you might be able to fast travel back and forth.

Looks incredible especially the animations /s

Shocking opinions some of you have. Totally unexpected.

 

[Gudji]

Shocking opinions some of you have. Totally unexpected.

Definitely...

Facial expressions looks fantastic in the game, btw!

 

[Nydius]

Media outlets are already carrying buckets of water for Bethesda, excusing the fact that this 'next gen only' game is targeting 4K/30 fps. All of the sudden there are articles with lines like this: "To be honest though, how many of us are really turning to Bethesda for graphical capabilities?"

Targeting a 4k/30 baseline on the Series X in 2022/2023 is an absolute embarrassment. 4K/30 was barely acceptable, but understandable, on the One X. Just because past Bethesda games launched and ran like shit doesn't mean they deserve a medal for never improving. The very same article goes on to talk about mods for Skyrim, missing the point entirely that the most popular mods for Skyrim were ones that completely overhauled the graphics. Graphics mods were so popular, in fact, that Bethesda basically ripped them off to create the Special Edition re-release. I won't be surprised if they do the same thing for Starfield.

 

[Kssio_Aug]

Definitely...

You can prove me wrong... I see no problem admitting an mistake.

Click on the video below, at the moment I linked it, and then tell me if there are that many games with better facial animations. It definitely feels to me way above the standard! And coming from Bethesda that's really an improvement, because Fallout and TES, up until now, were horrible in that regard.

 

[Lukaku's First Touch]

First, ignore those who do authority speak on the answer to this without citing a source or at least minimum a disclaimer. It's not confirmed until it's confirmed.

With the information we have right now it seems like auto-landing is the more likely option, but with my assumption that there'll be added flexibility in the form of "land anywhere" as I've suggested below.

But again: It could be that this is specifically the map option and that you could still choose to fly down to the surface manually, who knows..

To me, the scene where the spaceship takes of and it switches planets/scenery in the background but the plane stays in the same animation, makes it clear that landing and taking off back into space will be prebaked cutscenes and you wont be able to fly and land yourself.

 

[Snake29]

Why do so many people want manual landing ?

I just want to press a button and see a 3 second landing cut scene and not have to worry about blowing up the ship when trying to land lol.

Because:

 

[DragonNCM]

Exploring the planet could be as simple as hitting an "explore planet" button that then shows you landmarks you can land at

Plus it's never implied that you can land on every planet, the vast majority of those planets are going to be gas or other sorts of planets you can't land on. Think about the amount of planets in the solar system you could feasibly land on with a space ship

Gas planets are often giants & that have maybe 10 moons or more & you can land on the moons.....don't bland realism in video games

 

[Salty Popsicle]

Media outlets are already carrying buckets of water for Bethesda, excusing the fact that this 'next gen only' game is targeting 4K/30 fps. All of the sudden there are articles with lines like this: "To be honest though, how many of us are really turning to Bethesda for graphical capabilities?"

Targeting a 4k/30 baseline on the Series X in 2022/2023 is an absolute embarrassment. 4K/30 was barely acceptable, but understandable, on the One X. Just because past Bethesda games launched and ran like shit doesn't mean they deserve a medal for never improving. The very same article goes on to talk about mods for Skyrim, missing the point entirely that the most popular mods for Skyrim were ones that completely overhauled the graphics. Graphics mods were so popular, in fact, that Bethesda basically ripped them off to create the Special Edition re-release. I won't be surprised if they do the same thing for Starfield.

Cyberpunk 2077 runs at Dynamic 4K and 60fps on XSX and PS5 yet it doesn't look impressive on consoles at all. The amount of asset pop-in and shadows appearing within view while driving is something I hadn't seen since the Xbox 360/PS3 era. Knowing how expansive Starfield will be and the physics simulations that the Creation Engine can produce, I'm satisfied with a 4K/30fps presentation. I know of no other RPG that allow players to literally pick up and interact with every asset presented in the game world like Bethesda RPGs do.