DenchDeckard
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So it was 2 years....now it's one year!
So, 6 months next year....then day and date in 2024?
So, 6 months next year....then day and date in 2024?
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Hermen Hulst - PlayStation GAAS releasing day-one on PC, SP games at least one year after console release
- Thread starter Tiago Rodrigues
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64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
I know that telling a fib is bad, but holy fucking shit calm the fuck down. You're calling the person behind the Playstation brand you love so much subhuman. What the actual fuck is wrong with you? Are the games still not coming to PS? Is this really worth calling someone less than human for HELPING the industry?
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Sony is adding dlss3.0 support for 40 series cards in time for launch.
Meanwhile fsr 2.0 has been out for months but ps5 games haven’t been patched for them. They are clearly putting more effort into their PC ports.
Stuart360
Member
I think its more getting these options into PC ports because there are low, mid, and high end PC users. While on PS5 they target one spec.
SSfox
Member
I'm stating facts, he's a liar and his wording speak for itself.
Also not helping industry to me. He is destorying the PS brand for the sake of his own fantasies.
SSfox
Member
And yet, some people will still come here and tell you: " Gnah Gnah Hermen is not liar Gnah Gnah"
Day One for all multiplayer games!
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
If your a GAAS gamer, even better. Probably all of them (they got over 10 in the works) will be day one on PC.
Stuart360
Member
He's just bending the truth to keep the Sony faithful on his side. Plus decisions like this change over time.
They are looking at this from a business perspective,while you seem to be looking at this whole situation from a Sony fanboy perspective. I guess you probably gave Xbox shit for years for bringing their games to PC?, maybe.
Fredrik
Member
We can only hope but I have my doubts, they clearly like the double dipping money.
Game - Console day 1
Game, higher fps/res - PC 1y later
Game remaster - Console day 1
Game remaster, higher fps/res - PC 1y later
Game Remake - Console day 1
Game Remake, higher fps/res - PC 1y later
Fans buying it all
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Thirty7ven
Banned
Don’t be loco. This will make the PS brand bigger, nothing more.
A console is a value proposition in terms of hardware, it does not matter if the game eventually releases on PC.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Yep 12 games by 2025 they said. So all that IO secret sauce Cerny talked about in his road to PS5 talk will basically be absent from these 12 first party games.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
For GAAS, it’s technically day and date now. Sounds like all or most GAAS will be on PC right away.
64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
You are calling him subhuman. Over plastic boxes with electronics in them. And how the fuck is this destroying the brand?? PCs have flaws that for some people may make consoles more preferable. Do you honestly think little 8 year old Jimmy is gonna get a PC over a Playstation 5 despite them playing the exact same fucking games?
Playstation could go day 1 with exclusives and the PS5 will still sell well over 100 million. The brand is a titan and its not going anywhere
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InverseAgonist
Banned
How in the world do you come to that conclusion? I'm curious the logical argument.
SSfox
Member
I wasn't a fan of XBox putting their games on PC, but i didn't talk much about because MS already lost me with Kinect followed by DRM and Cie. Haven't bought XBox One, and have no plan in buyin Xbox Series S/X.
We will talk about it being good business decisions or not when the consoles and PS+ subs will drop in numbers. And not even talking about quality downgrade when they start releasing buggy games because of non fully focus on one hardware, it already started with HZFW.
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bitbydeath
Gold Member
Sony would have to switch to either DirectX or OpenGL for that to be possible.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Games are being concurrently designed on PC and PS5. PCs dont have the PS5 IO. It's basic logic.
SSfox
Member
Just like Xbox is now bigger than ever?... Oups
Xbox peak was at 360, once they started porting games on PC nobody gives 2 shit about owning an Xbox. And Playstation is gonna follow the same lame model, the difference is Xbox can allow themselves losing too much money unlike the others.
Skifi28
Gold Member
Yeah, the masses are about to build themselves a PC with a 4080. I expect water cooling too.
FalsettoVibe
Member
I don't think this news is gonna have a massive affect on PS5 sales...
Thirty7ven
Banned
Guess you just have to wait and see. Let me just say people who think this will somehow tank PS5 sales… are low IQ individuals.
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Bo_Hazem
Banned
They are looking at the bigger picture. PC gamers will always buy multiplats on PC anyway and won't commit to PS5. Hope this helps them out to make more great games.
InverseAgonist
Banned
I must be missing this basic logic. Aren't there requirements on PC? What's to say they just don't require DX12 and an SSD? Sure, during game development you use a unified asset database, but then you optimize for the platform. You can design for PS5 and then port to PC. What's the problem here?
It almost feels like you're starting with a chosen outcome and then working the argument backwards to make it fit.
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StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
For me, cross play games is a zero issue. It doesn’t revenue matter which console ported games. I’m sure there were old Genesis and snes games that were ported to PC, as well as all the early PS and Xbox games that surely ported over the past 25 years.
When Gears 1 got a PC port a year later with extra missions, who cares.
I’ll let the accountants at their head offices worry about which platform(s) to release games on to maximize profits.
Spukc
always chasing the next thrill
cool so i bought my playstation 5 to play a shittier version 1 year earlier.
oh well still cool i get to play earlier and since games are getting so expensive to make it also makes sense to go multiplat.
it would be nice if they would stop fucking releasing the games on 9 year old hardware tho. i want my next gen games like demon souls/ratchet clank
oh well still cool i get to play earlier and since games are getting so expensive to make it also makes sense to go multiplat.
it would be nice if they would stop fucking releasing the games on 9 year old hardware tho. i want my next gen games like demon souls/ratchet clank
64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
Nintendo is bigger than ever and with little setup you can play all of their best games on your PC. Isn't stopping the switch and it's massive dominance though
Bo_Hazem
Banned
PS5 and Xbox are better than like 92-95% of PC gamers. Here we mostly have extreme examples of PC gamers, yet PS5/XSX would be much more powerful than average gaming PC's. Also if MGS6 was an Xbox exclusive for 1 year I would buy an XSX. Waiting 1 year for a game to come is the saddest thing ever. Live today as you don't know what will happen in the future, like nuke fest with current lunacy.
Fbh
Member
People just need to accept consoles are officially just way more limited but more affordable and streamlined PC's now.
Want decent performance for a relatively low price? Get a console, want more freedom and potentially better performance at a higher cost? get a PC.
Releasing the live service games on PC day 1 makes sense. Live service games need a big active user base to thrive and it's going to be hard to get that on just Ps5 (specially if the live service games will also be $70).
Want decent performance for a relatively low price? Get a console, want more freedom and potentially better performance at a higher cost? get a PC.
Releasing the live service games on PC day 1 makes sense. Live service games need a big active user base to thrive and it's going to be hard to get that on just Ps5 (specially if the live service games will also be $70).
Spukc
always chasing the next thrill
aye the year is worth it for me but i can understand that plenty of pc gamers truly don't give a shit. Also GL charging full price for a 1 year old SP port with youtube walkthroughs
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kyliethicc
Member
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
Or have both versions in development concurrently.
Their teams are large enough for that to be a thing.
bitbydeath
Gold Member
bitbydeath
Gold Member
The costs would be through the roof.
Clear
CliffyB's Cock Holster
So, what do you suggest; They gimp the PC version because you can't ever spec up a console to match a high-end PC without (at an absolute minimum) doubling the price?
64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
Wow, I feel kinda special being part of the 8% lol.
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
And Sony are so strapped for cash amirite?
Small independent developers can release a game day and date on Xbox, Playstation, Switch and PC......but not the megacorp Sony.
Nope that they just cant do.
Way too expensive and outside of their technical know how.
kyliethicc
Member
It’s called The Last of Us Online btw. See Druckmann’s tweet.
Doubt it comes to PS4 because I don’t think it will ship until 2024.PS4, PS5, PC.
Bernd Lauert
Banned
Just a hint, Series is comfortably outselling the 360. Revenue is more than double compared to back then, too.
Fbh
Member
I don't get what would make live service games easy to port and test. Specially if they are making them with high production values.
The majority of third party devs release their single player games on multiple consoles at launch, I don't see why Sony wouldn't be able to make a day 1 PC version if they really wanted to.
64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
Also up against a 360 which had rrod which bolstered sales thanks to people getting more consoles than usual
bitbydeath
Gold Member
You’re still talking additional unnecessary cost.
It may only add $100,000 onto the development but that’s still $100,000 they don’t need to spend.
bitbydeath
Gold Member
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
You think they wont make that money back on Steam?
Every single Sony game since this new stance has sold gangbusters on Steam.
That cost is borderline irrelevant considering how much they are expanding their market.
Fbh
Member
Live service games aren't just PVP multiplayer.
Destiny is a live service game and has all the elements you mention
DaGwaphics
Member
This. And PS will be the same. There will always be cheap bastards that don't want to pay the Nvidia tax to keep an updated gaming PC. LOL
bitbydeath
Gold Member
They’d still be out of pocket compared to porting once it has gone gold. The only reason MS switched to day and date on PC was because they moved to DirectX.
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