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[Robb]

I guess it was inevitable but still sucks.

Although I haven’t purchased a single game on Xbox since I got it, so I guess I won’t even notice this in the end.

 

[Ozriel]

I'm going to bet that GP price is going to increase and/or they're going to stop releasing games day one on the service in the future if they don't hit their subscriber goals.

If they don’t hit their subscriber goals, doesn’t that mean more people are buying at retail for full price?

I’m not sure I understand this fantasy world where GP stalls and yet retail is supposed to crater to levels as if everyone has GP.

It's easy to not raise the price when you don't release any next-gen game.

…but their competition raised prices on next gen versions of cross gen games, 2 years ago.

 

[phil_t98]

Nobody is pointing fingers, people are just giving back the same shit Sony received.

well there is a choice which you don't get on PS, yeah games have gone up which isn't a good look on either console but with Gamepass you can still play them on day one without paying £70 or do yo have an alternative to that on PS

 

[oji-san]

Expected i guess, Goddamn with Sony for starting this.

 

[Jormatar]

B-b-but I thought Xbox was the good guy and other companies were just evil when they raised the price of their games!!!1

I can't wait to pay 29,99€ monthly for Game Pass once the Activision deal goes through and Microsoft feels like they have something to offer people can't refuse not to pay. It's only a matter of time.

 

[bender]

PC players:

 

[Varnish La PS]

For what "Games"?

 

[DeepEnigma]

well there is a choice which you don't get on PS, yeah games have gone up which isn't a good look on either console but with Gamepass you can still play them on day one without paying £70 or do yo have an alternative to that on PS

Yeah, I buy my games that I want to play.

 

[Captain Toad]

I love being priced out of the gaming market by cold unfeeling corporations who increase prices because of "inFlAyshun" despite making record profits

You've been priced out? Well, bye. Enjoy your new hobby.

 

[Gen.Grievous]

Sad, but kind of expected
Makes gamepass better value, hoping they don’t increase that any time soon

Didn't they already tried raising it but the backlash was pretty big. It's only a matter of time. Nearly all entertainment subscriptions got more expensive the past year.

 

[Ezekiel_]

kinda funny you put that but gamers have choice and can play on Gamepass day one. so who's really laughing now? right back at you

 

[Rocco Schiavone]

Sony does it - Good business sense.
Microsoft does it - Evil incarnate.

Not really. Sony does It greedy company this is for the payers.

Microsoft does It. Yeah but we did It after Sony (excuse)

 

[GHG]

I do like that MS has not increased prices of their console or games and there is no evidence that their game quality is falling so maybe they are the only ones who can do it.

If you are saying he is lying about raising the price I applaud your consistency.

Also as an aside Phil never said Xbox pricing would never change only that is remaining the same for now. I don't like price increases but at this point I haven't see one from Xbox at least.

On one hand we have a fear of a possible, maybe, vague potential of a price increase on possibly a service or console or accessory. On the other hand we have actual real price increases on consoles and games. I'm sure I know which one you are far more concerned about but I tend to focus on reality over possibilities. Talk when the Xbox price increases are real and not imaginary.

People try so hard for a gotcha and it just ends up being a self own. It is what it is.

Time for a change in PR strategy it seems.

 

[Heisenberg007]

Okay, guys, hear me out.

• PlayStation launched all PS4 games at $60, even after PS5's launch. They only charged $70 for PS5 (next-gen) games.
• Xbox tried scoring points for not releasing games for $70. But they never actually launched a next-gen only game during this period.
• Now when those next-gen only games are launching -- Starfield, Redfall -- they are gonna charge $70.

So what's the difference b/w Xbox and PS, and why did Xbox and Xboxers criticized PS for raising prices to $70?

 

[Zathalus]

It's easy to not raise the price when you don't release any next-gen game.

Can't wait to see the new narrative the green rats will come up with to attack Sony on game prices. That DarkMage poster in particular.

Odd statement, both Sony and Microsoft have only released 3 next-gen games each. Sony has obviously released more AAA titles this gen so far but they have almost all been cross-gen games. Next-gen only games have been a let down from both of them

 

[Captain Toad]

For what "Games"?

It was so nice of them to not implement this priced increase throughout all of 2022. Kudos to Microsoft for that.

It would have been even more impressive had they released even one new AAA game at some point in the year.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Not really. Sony does It greedy company this is for the payers.

Microsoft does It. Yeah but we did It after Sony (excuse)

Sony does it, greedy fucks.

MS does it, still Sony's fault for doing it prior.

MS does not make their own decisions.

 

[jm89]

Watch.

‘well obviously they had to increase the price of games in line with everyone else eventually’

‘well obviously they have to increase the price of Game Pass from £10.99 considering all the £69.99 games you get on it, it’s still the best value in gaming™’

‘well obviously they had to increase the price of games to £79.99 to match PS6 games, what did you expect?

‘well obviously they have to increase the price of Game Pass from £17.99 considering all the £79.99 games you get on it, it’s still the best value in gaming™’

Just mix in some ‘look at their overheads with ABK, of course they have to increase prices’ and you’re golden.

Folks are already writing up their speeches if gamepass or console prices go up.

 

[Kiraly]

Expected i guess, Goddamn with Sony for starting this.

Only fair take when there are still clowns today crying about Microsoft gating online behind a fee and forcing Sony to do the same.

 

[MadPanda]

I think this could be their incentive for unsubscribed to sub to gamepass. In any way, it's sad but nothing we didn't expect, sadly.

 

[DForce]

kinda funny you put that but gamers have choice and can play on Gamepass day one. so who's really laughing now? right back at you

What's funny is that Xbox fanboys called Sony raising the price to $69.99 an anti-consumer practice.

NOW that Xbox first-party games are the same price, the narrative switches to, "At least games are on Game Pass."

 

[64bitmodels]

You've been priced out? Well, bye. Enjoy your new hobby.

it'll happen to you too if you don't take a stand against these greedy fucks

 

[Antwix]

Phil was supposed to always pay the big bucks, not us!!!

 

[Ozriel]

B-b-but I thought Xbox was the good guy and other companies were just evil when they raised the price of their games!!!1

I can't wait to pay 29,99€ monthly for Game Pass once the Activision deal goes through and Microsoft feels like they have something to offer people can't refuse not to pay. It's only a matter of time.

Anyone can pretty much hedge against this by stacking up three years of GP. Keeps you sorted to 2026.

Okay, guys, hear me out.

• PlayStation launched all PS4 games at $60, even after PS5's launch. They only charged $70 for PS5 (next-gen) games.
• Xbox tried scoring points for not releasing games for $70. But they never actually launched a next-gen only game during this period.
• Now when those next-gen only games are launching -- Starfield, Redfall -- they are gonna charge $70.

So what's the difference b/w Xbox and PS, and why did Xbox and Xboxers criticized PS for raising prices to $70?

But GT7, Ragnarok and Horizon FW are cross gen games…not sure how your argument makes any sense.

 

[jroc74]

Nobody is pointing fingers, people are just giving back the same shit Sony received.

It's kinda wild how some folks can't see this.

I'm pretty sure everyone in this thread knows Sony raised game prices before MS.

And I'm pretty sure there are some in here that had a good time giving Sony shit for doing it.

Hell, Sony wasn't even the first to go to $70 games this gen.

 

[Banjo64]

Folks are already writing up their speeches if gamepass or console prices go up.

I think MS just send a briefing note to the ambassadors so they don’t even have to think.

 

[AndrewRyan]

 

[Coloress_Kafka]

So someone at Microsoft finally discovered that inflation is real and not some fake news BS developed by Sony.

Imagine what happens when they learn about return on investment :O

 

[DForce]

If they don’t hit their subscriber goals, doesn’t that mean more people are buying at retail for full price?

I’m not sure I understand this fantasy world where GP stalls and yet retail is supposed to crater to levels as if everyone has GP.

I'm just making a prediction. Stop getting defensive.

 

[MasterCornholio]

Time for a change in PR strategy it seems.

Hmm

People try so hard for a gotcha and it just ends up being a self own. It is what it is.

I guess that applies to him now.

 

[Heisenberg007]

But GT7, Ragnarok and Horizon FW are cross gen games…not sure how your argument makes any sense.

And they all have a $60 version on PSN.

 

[phil_t98]

What's funny is that Xbox fanboys called Sony raising the price to $69.99 an anti-consumer practice.

NOW that Xbox first-party games are the same price, the narrative switches to, "At least games are on Game Pass."

I agree it is anti consumer I aint saying it isn't but its true they are on Gamepass are they not?

 

[Zathalus]

Okay, guys, hear me out.

• PlayStation launched all PS4 games at $60, even after PS5's launch. They only charged $70 for PS5 (next-gen) games.
• Xbox tried scoring points for not releasing games for $70. But they never actually launched a next-gen only game during this period.
• Now when those next-gen only games are launching -- Starfield, Redfall -- they are gonna charge $70.

So what's the difference b/w Xbox and PS, and why did Xbox and Xboxers criticized PS for raising prices to $70?

They did release next-gen only games. Flight Simulator, Deathloop, and Ghostwire. If you are referring to games with a next-gen version then Microsoft has released 9 games this gen so far.

 

[phil_t98]

Yeah, I buy my games that I want to play.

that's fair enough, do you not sub to any of the higher tiers of PS+ then?

 

[Sleepwalker]

Starfield was a $60 2022 game that is now a $70 2023 game thanks to a small delay. Dont think many people are going to see value on Redfall at $70, but to each their own. Forza yeah sure if youre into that (im not).


Xbox did not release any AAA first party games since Halo/Forza horizon 5 in november 2021 if im not mistaken, so skip a full year and pretend you "held off" on raising prices lol.


I have gamepass but I'm expecting an increase on that soon as well.

 

[Saber]

well there is a choice which you don't get on PS, yeah games have gone up which isn't a good look on either console but with Gamepass you can still play them on day one without paying £70 or do yo have an alternative to that on PS

Honest question, what makes you think they won't be increasing GP price?
You think they will be like "we gonna increase the prices of games because productions costs are higher but don't yah worry you can still not pay up by going to GP, making our increased prices for development of AAA games redundant"?

 

[DeepEnigma]

that's fair enough, do you not sub to any of the higher tiers of PS+ then?

Negative.

 

[remember_spinal]

But…thats anti-consumer

 

[Heisenberg007]

They did release next-gen only games. Flight Simulator, Deathloop, and Ghostwire. If you are referring to games with a next-gen version then Microsoft has released 9 games this gen so far.

Flight Simulator and Deathloop aren't brand-new releases, though. They couldn't launch Flight Simulator for $70 when they had already launched it on PC for $60 a year ago.

They have increased the prices just before brand-new next-gen releases, Starfield, Redfall, Forza, etc.

 

[MasterCornholio]

I agree it is anti consumer I aint saying it isn't but its true they are on Gamepass are they not?

I think this affects those that don't use gamepass. Which I'm guessing is still plenty of people.

 

[Sleepwalker]

It's kinda wild how some folks can't see this.

I'm pretty sure everyone in this thread knows Sony raised game prices before MS.

And I'm pretty sure there are some in here that had a good time giving Sony shit for doing it.

Hell, Sony wasn't even the first to go to $70 games this gen.

This. I gave sony shit for raising prices and I get their games 2nd handed or discounted. I refuse to pay 100+ cdn after tax for a game no matter the company.

 

[phil_t98]

Honest question, what makes you think they won't be increasing GP price?
You think they will be like "we gonna increase the prices of games because productions costs are higher but don't yah worry you can still not pay up by going to GP, making our increased prices for development of AAA games redundant"?

they may do, and I will argue its anti consumer to raise the prices of it when they do but at this moment they haven't.

 

[DForce]

I agree it is anti consumer I aint saying it isn't but its true they are on Gamepass are they not?

Yes it is, but it's going to funny to see people bring up game pass instead of criticizing MS.

 

[Chukhopops]

Didn't they already tried raising it but the backlash was pretty big. It's only a matter of time. Nearly all entertainment subscriptions got more expensive the past year.

No that was Gold.

Xbox did not release any AAA first party games since Halo/Forza horizon 5 in november 2021 if im not mistaken, so skip a full year and pretend you "held off" on raising prices lol.

Deathloop launched at 59.99 USD on XSX though.

 

[phil_t98]

I think this affects those that don't use gamepass. Which I'm guessing is still plenty of people.

according to most people on here though most people don't buy games any more they only use Gamepass. when ever you bring up that Microsoft games sell still its always shot down on here

 

[JTCx]

Lmfao theyre trying to strong arm you fucks into gamepass

 

[solidus12]

BUT Colteastwood said...

 

[Zathalus]

Flight Simulator and Deathloop aren't brand-new releases, though. They couldn't launch Flight Simulator for $70 when they had already launched it on PC for $60 a year ago.

They have increased the prices just before brand-new next-gen releases, Starfield, Redfall, Forza, etc.

Sure they could have. Deathloop and Ghostwire they could have charged $70 when they released on PS5 but they didn't. Nevermind the 6 other games that had Series versions that were not $70.

 

[Banjo64]

Prediction for 2023; Gold is discontinued. Base Game Pass now required to play online @ £8.99 a month (£107.88 a year).

 

[nial]

Are there people who thought this was not going to happen? It's pretty clear that it took them long enough because they've only been releasing cross-gen/smart delivery games so far (aside from Flight Simulator, which was a 1 year old PC port anyway).