Chukhopops
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- Over 60 games released Day 1 on GP just this year;
- 21 games at 80 MC or higher released Day 1;
- 75.3 average MC on all those releases.
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Microsoft really doesnt give a shit about pushing the medium forward. Their approach to winning the gen will reduce the quality of GAMES
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- 21 games at 80 MC or higher released Day 1;
- 75.3 average MC on all those releases.
You’re entitled to your opinion, factually wrong as it may be.
Kinect set a Guinness world record for selling gangbusters.
Kinect 2 came bundled with Xbox One, but MS just made mistake after mistake, dropped the ball in spectacular fashion by focusing on everything but games, and then did a total 180 and never looked back.
Kimect could have been bigger and better, but the games just stopped coming.
Personally I'm both glad and sad it's gone. I'm glad to be rid of the gimmick getting shoved into every game, but I miss some of the creative experiences.
Bumblebeetuna
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Sadly, anything below an 80 is gutter trash to edgelord gamers on the internet it seems.
Bernkastel
Ask me about my fanboy energy!
The irony of your post projecting itself to the one it is replying to.
bluecowboys
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How the heck is it screwing anyone when we are still supporting the damn PS4 and Xbox one? Drop support of those consoles first then you can talk.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Elden Ring
God of War Ragnarök
A Plague Tale Requiem
Cult of the Lamb
Immortality
Norco
Pentiment
These are the games which have won GoTY awards so far.
4 of them are available on game pass, and if I'm not mistaken all 4 of them were day 1 releases.
Only an idiot would look at this reception and say game pass is devaluing anything, I guess there's no shortage of idiots
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Bumblebeetuna
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Elden Ring
God of War Ragnarök
A Plague Tale Requiem
Cult of the Lamb
Immortality
Norco
Pentiment
These are the games which have won GoTY awards so far.
4 of them are available on game pass, and if I'm not mistaken all 4 of them were day 1 releases.
Only an idiot would look at this reception and say game pass is devaluing anything, I guess there's no shortage of idiots
I still need to play Norco and Immortality. Too much trash on GamePass, the backlog is huge.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Put aside some time for immortality. It's a TRIP.
Try to go in as blank as you can.
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Punished Miku
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I just beat Norco. It's awesome. Like a legitimately great indie movie. Never seen a game with a story quite like it.
Immortality is also great, but also very weird. Don't go in expecting a game. It's an interactive experience, but it's got some cool elements.
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Punished Miku
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He was joking. Both have received a ton of praise and are among the most memorable indies of the year.
DeepEnigma
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anothertech
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Look at the poor dudes defending indie after indie on gamepass like poor gamer peasants.
Seriously, even the most diehard Xbox fan streamers are yelling at Ms for their game output and lack of showings at TGA.
You're sycophant arguments are nothing short of pathetic.
Seriously, even the most diehard Xbox fan streamers are yelling at Ms for their game output and lack of showings at TGA.
You're sycophant arguments are nothing short of pathetic.
bender
What time is it?
Elden Ring
God of War Ragnarök
A Plague Tale Requiem
Cult of the Lamb
Immortality
Norco
Pentiment
These are the games which have won GoTY awards so far.
4 of them are available on game pass, and if I'm not mistaken all 4 of them were day 1 releases.
Only an idiot would look at this reception and say game pass is devaluing anything, I guess there's no shortage of idiots
Put Cult of the Lamb on GamePass, Phil, you coward.
Deputy Moonman
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Rhazer Fusion
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Indie developers and Asian developers? Not perfect, but at least they are willing to take risks and try to implement some type of creativity sometimes unlike most other AAA or major companies.
Kagoshima_Luke
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Nintendo are trying to get as many people playing games as possible by creating amazing and polished games that will attract larger audiences, thus more sales of Nintendo games and hardware.
Microsoft are trying to get as many people playing games as possible by enabling people to access said games on as many platforms and in as many ways as possible, thus removing barrier to entry, driving up engagement and generating consistent and reliable revenue.
So we have one company that is focusing on making amazing games, and another that is focusing on ease of access to games. The problem with MSFT's approach is that they need to be focusing on making amazing games ABOVE ALL ELSE. They can have those other goals, but the core focus needs to not be GamePass, streaming or anything else, it needs to be "let's make some freaking amazing games." This has been their problem for a long time now.
Microsoft are trying to get as many people playing games as possible by enabling people to access said games on as many platforms and in as many ways as possible, thus removing barrier to entry, driving up engagement and generating consistent and reliable revenue.
So we have one company that is focusing on making amazing games, and another that is focusing on ease of access to games. The problem with MSFT's approach is that they need to be focusing on making amazing games ABOVE ALL ELSE. They can have those other goals, but the core focus needs to not be GamePass, streaming or anything else, it needs to be "let's make some freaking amazing games." This has been their problem for a long time now.
ChorizoPicozo
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BB says hi
Trco wants a belly rub:
Who would fund something like this:
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DeepEnigma
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Fredrik
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I already have PC with a 4090, I don’t think I have everything at my fingertips there, Sony is stubborn so I have to wait for their 1st party games, which usually means that I’ve already played them when they come to PC.
Rick Dangerous
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An OT a bit over the top but when all is said and done : Microsoft wants to be the platform, the gatekeeper to gaming. Flourish all you want, do whatever you want as long as it's on my platform and I can take my cut without creating anything but just due to my gatekeeper position and make billions $$$ out of it.
iHaunter
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Year 11 for Xbox having 0 Game of the Year nominations.
Why do you work so hard at defending MS? Its embarrassing watching you bend over backwards and accept the shit you're being served. Even hardcore xbox fans have been calling MS out. Its the same shit year after year.
Kagey K
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I don't see any defending Xbox (or even a mention of them) in that post.
Why do you read things that arent there?
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Excuse me ?
Their games have won dozens of GoTY awards over the years.. what are you on about ?
thismeinteil
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Wait til final numbers are in.
Let's make things clear. Indie games don't need Microsoft to exist in the same proportion they exist now. Gamepass deals and ID@Xbox probably helped some of them over the years, but that remains a drop in the ocean of video games as a whole.
If Microsoft can add something of value to this industry, it's with their money, by funding and publishing new projects with mid or big studios that are potentially struggling given the current state of the industry. They are capable to withstand loss but they only use that on the consumer side (which is, in my opinion, not the biggest problem of video games currently, but i know that everybody won't agree).
Some people have said it, 60 games day one on Gamepass this year, most of them are indie games. Plenty of variety in the indie field, we don't even need 60, it's actually way too much and most of these games would exist without a partnership anyway.
If Microsoft can add something of value to this industry, it's with their money, by funding and publishing new projects with mid or big studios that are potentially struggling given the current state of the industry. They are capable to withstand loss but they only use that on the consumer side (which is, in my opinion, not the biggest problem of video games currently, but i know that everybody won't agree).
Some people have said it, 60 games day one on Gamepass this year, most of them are indie games. Plenty of variety in the indie field, we don't even need 60, it's actually way too much and most of these games would exist without a partnership anyway.
Warablo
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Ya man, its all Microsoft's fault for "forcing" Bethesda to sell.
Tell me, why are all these companies trying to get out of the video game business? I'll tell you, its a risky industry and could go broke if that next game isn't a hit.
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SkyHighTrees
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this is bullying the greenos
Banjo64
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Imagine caring about this when Xbox have put out games like Ori and Forza but stuff like Stray has been nominated for GOTY. I platinumed Stray. Decent game. Absolute run of the mill compared to Ori though.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Neither Stray, nor Horizon FW should be anywhere close to the GoTY discussion, maybe genre specific thing and/or Indie categories at best.
I agree personally but that's a matter of taste. In a way they had an impact on this year. What sucks about TGA is the lack of variety represented for big awards, they want to cut a good figure for a non-gamer audience. So yeah it's completely biased but usually it follows more or less metacritic.
And this year was poor, not all years are like this. hence why Stray was here. I'm sure if Ori 2 was released this year it would have been nominated instead.
And this year was poor, not all years are like this. hence why Stray was here. I'm sure if Ori 2 was released this year it would have been nominated instead.
Stooky
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Kinect sucked. I bought the day one bundle. It never delivered on what it promised. And Microsoft let it die a month after Xbox 1 came out. It was made in response to PlayStation eye toy and move controllers which had actually some good content. That fiasco is what turned me away from being Xbox day one consumer.
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TheAmazingSpiderMan
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Don’t worry the Xbox fans still think MS are somehow doing an excellent job 
Stooky
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Over the decades the GOY awards and user reviews for sony disqualifies everything you said. Xbox is a good console but they aren’t even competing with sony or Nintendo in quantity or quality of releases.
bentanchorbolt
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Imagine not making enough money that you’re forced to think the way you do about consoles.Don’t worry the Xbox fans still think MS are somehow doing an excellent job
Omnipunctual Godot
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Have you heard the good news about our lord and savior, 3rd-person action-adventure game?
bender
What time is it?
Imagine believing what someone earns forces one to think a certain way.
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bentanchorbolt
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Maybe or maybe not. I own all consoles and PC, and it’s strange to me the personal investment people have in one platform over another. It’s either due to limited financial means or limited mental means. Either way, yikes.
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Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
What a sad portrait of the state of this site. If Xbox wasn't a force in gaming, you all wouldn't spend 24/7 trying to convince yourselves otherwise.
bender
What time is it?
Yikes is your classism.
bentanchorbolt
Banned
Yeah maybe. I’ve been accused of worse.
Cheezewizz
Banned
Discussion on this topic is pointless unless people can choose a narrative and stick with it. Either Xbox is unable to compete with the likes of Playstation and Nintendo and is largely irrelevant, or it's one of among three successful console manufacturers that is able to compete and is therefore relevent.
The mental gymnastics on display by the OP in order to portray the Xbox as little more than an also ran, while also single handedly being responsible for the downfall of all of gaming as we know it, is a bit of stretch.
The mental gymnastics on display by the OP in order to portray the Xbox as little more than an also ran, while also single handedly being responsible for the downfall of all of gaming as we know it, is a bit of stretch.
Torrent of Pork
Banned
What I don't understand is some people here who apparently don't play anything unless they check Metacritic first, and disregard anything that doesn't hit 90+. Like, bro, do you only play 2-3 games per year?
I'm not talking shit about Sony, they're unparalleled in what they do, I'm just not into that particular genera of game. That's why I love Gamepass, it's a shotgun blast of all sorts of generals, with 1st party games thrown on top like a treat. I'm wholely addicted to Potion Craft (not Potion Maker) right now, and I sure-as-shit wouldn't have bothered with it without GP.
I'm not talking shit about Sony, they're unparalleled in what they do, I'm just not into that particular genera of game. That's why I love Gamepass, it's a shotgun blast of all sorts of generals, with 1st party games thrown on top like a treat. I'm wholely addicted to Potion Craft (not Potion Maker) right now, and I sure-as-shit wouldn't have bothered with it without GP.
remember_spinal
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I’ll honestly never understand the mentality of people say they don’t give a shit about metacritic and media praise but then say they wouldn’t play a bunch of games they’ve enjoyed without gamepass.
Like, it very easy for me to find and play a bunch of indie games that aren’t on a service. I’ve been doing it for years on Steam, and plenty of other people do as well, which is why steam continues to be the best place for indie games not consoles. Theres like 50 indie showcases a year from all the big platform holders, along with steam next fest which gives you access to a bunch of demos.
Its like saying, “i wouldn’t even listen to all this good music if Spotify wasn’t putting the playlist on the front page for me”. Its like, do a little leg work and support devs
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